Teaching the Organon
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At 8:31 AM -0600 1/2/05, Robert&Shannon Nelson wrote:
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We got six. That is enough. All the "if Hahnemann were alive, he
would..." is a bunch of hooey. We DON'T know. All we have is what he
gave us. And THAT is plenty.
Yes. The folks I know who see the Organon in need of revision,
generally, do not understand it at all and think of it as "outdated"
and written "too long ago" to be of contemporary use. Sigh....
Well... I'm working on a series of articles for Homeopathy Today
which does just that. I'm working on it slowly and quite enjoying the
exercise.
All one needs to do is to read the Organon about some specifics--
like case taking, and see how it meshes with what one has been taught.
More whenever!
JW
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We got six. That is enough. All the "if Hahnemann were alive, he
would..." is a bunch of hooey. We DON'T know. All we have is what he
gave us. And THAT is plenty.
Yes. The folks I know who see the Organon in need of revision,
generally, do not understand it at all and think of it as "outdated"
and written "too long ago" to be of contemporary use. Sigh....
Well... I'm working on a series of articles for Homeopathy Today
which does just that. I'm working on it slowly and quite enjoying the
exercise.
All one needs to do is to read the Organon about some specifics--
like case taking, and see how it meshes with what one has been taught.
More whenever!
JW
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Julian - you are leaving out one key ingredient - time. The first few times you read the Organon you see one thing, but more often miss the points. Yes - the language is stilted or 'out of date' here and there. The ideas seem muddled in places. But every time you read thereafter - you see something new. Something now makes perfect sense. A passage that was totally baffling becomes clear. The Organon is not a one time read you then use as a reference book. Yes I do use it as a reference, but I try to take a fresh read of the totality of the book every time I can. I am always amazed how clear it is in places I once put lots of question marks. I look forward to your series of articles. I'm sure I will discover things I never saw before.
My greatest wish in a 'new edition' would be to have a 'study edition' with single paragraph printed on a page, followed by 5 to 10 blank pages. Every time I read through, I would like to make new notes. My poor edition is so crammed with notations along the boarders, and stuck in with 'sticky notes' that it is hard to find anything. Thank goodness when you published the Mackey transcription of the 5th Edition you left good large margins - but that still is not nearly enough.
Hope your articles will appear soon!
Donna
My greatest wish in a 'new edition' would be to have a 'study edition' with single paragraph printed on a page, followed by 5 to 10 blank pages. Every time I read through, I would like to make new notes. My poor edition is so crammed with notations along the boarders, and stuck in with 'sticky notes' that it is hard to find anything. Thank goodness when you published the Mackey transcription of the 5th Edition you left good large margins - but that still is not nearly enough.
Hope your articles will appear soon!
Donna
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At 7:29 PM -0500 1/2/05, Donna Rona wrote:
Ah! Yes! It MUST be re-read-- just like everything else in homeopathy!
Where would we be if all you knew of Bryonia was what you remembered
from your first reading in Boericke?
There ARE two problems-- one is that he didn't take stuff out when
putting new stuff in-- so there are some contradictory moments.
Second, those of us not familiar with German are reading it in
translation-- and that always loses. That's why I really like looking
at three books all the time:
1. The Dudgeon/Boericke published in India that has the 5th AND shows
the changes in the 6th.
2. The Kunzli/ Pendelton/ Naude translation
3. The Decker/ O'Reilly translation.
Indeed. Since it is, essentially a manual, it should clarify as one
sees cases in practice and applies the lessons.
Well... I do too! Just getting started with it. Writing a bunch and
then will have to tie it together into some sort of cohesive whole
before the rumors start that Winston has lost the thread.
Make your own! Buy two cheapo Indian editions and a book of blank pages!
Best!
JW
Ah! Yes! It MUST be re-read-- just like everything else in homeopathy!
Where would we be if all you knew of Bryonia was what you remembered
from your first reading in Boericke?
There ARE two problems-- one is that he didn't take stuff out when
putting new stuff in-- so there are some contradictory moments.
Second, those of us not familiar with German are reading it in
translation-- and that always loses. That's why I really like looking
at three books all the time:
1. The Dudgeon/Boericke published in India that has the 5th AND shows
the changes in the 6th.
2. The Kunzli/ Pendelton/ Naude translation
3. The Decker/ O'Reilly translation.
Indeed. Since it is, essentially a manual, it should clarify as one
sees cases in practice and applies the lessons.
Well... I do too! Just getting started with it. Writing a bunch and
then will have to tie it together into some sort of cohesive whole
before the rumors start that Winston has lost the thread.
Make your own! Buy two cheapo Indian editions and a book of blank pages!
Best!
JW
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Hi....honey...so good to hear from you. I really appreciated the card....it
was nice. We went to dinner w/friends
and I will send some pics we took w/the digital camera along shortly. We
need to talk on the phone soon...
a catch up. I love you a bunch.
Big hugs and many Blessings,
Mom
was nice. We went to dinner w/friends
and I will send some pics we took w/the digital camera along shortly. We
need to talk on the phone soon...
a catch up. I love you a bunch.
Big hugs and many Blessings,
Mom
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Oops ...sorrrrrry....
for sharing a note to my daughter with all.
Lightening fingers
will nail us every time....didn't someone bring that up recently, LOL.
Again my apologies.
Melody Cooper, BA., MPH., DiHom.
Houston, Texas

Lightening fingers
will nail us every time....didn't someone bring that up recently, LOL.
Again my apologies.
Melody Cooper, BA., MPH., DiHom.
Houston, Texas
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About 40 years ago I was having hearing problems. Went to several ENT doctors who weren't able to find a reason for hearing loss. Found a really strange ENT doctor who took a full 5 minutes to diagnose. He put a piano tuning fork on the top of my head! It was otosclerosis. Both ears, He determined which had the greatest loss. Scheduled for Stapes surgery. I think I was one of the first patients to have the stapes implant that the doctor who diagnosed had developed. Back then, it was almost one week in the hospital post surgery! Now it's done as an outpatient proceedure. The ear not implanted has had total loss of hearing for many years but the (now antique!) implant still works. And so does the doctor!
The link gives a little info but the internet is brimming with sites that have lots of information. Georgianna
Rinne and Weber Tests
Rinne and Weber Tests
Rinne and Weber tests are exams that test for hearing loss. They determine whether a patient has conductive or sensorineural hearing loss.
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The link gives a little info but the internet is brimming with sites that have lots of information. Georgianna
Rinne and Weber Tests
Rinne and Weber Tests
Rinne and Weber tests are exams that test for hearing loss. They determine whether a patient has conductive or sensorineural hearing loss.
View on www.healthline.com
Preview by Yahoo
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not sure what this has to do with homeopathy
but glad you had success
Sheri
At 04:49 PM 7/4/2015, you wrote:
but glad you had success
Sheri
At 04:49 PM 7/4/2015, you wrote:
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Very sorry, Sheri.
Did not mean to offend you (or anyone) by posting something that wasn't about homeopathy. Thought I'd mention this old fashioned method used long before MRI's existed (and all the many advanced scans done today) to suggest a potentially kinder/gentler/non invasive way to perhaps assist determining if her hearing loss was due to otosclerosis as that was in question and since the patient sounded concerned about undergoing an MRI. The tuning fork method might have the potential to diagnose if she does have otosclerosis (as it certainly did for me) without the emotional (and physical) trauma (and expense) to the patient.
Please accept my apology, Sheri. - Georgianna
Did not mean to offend you (or anyone) by posting something that wasn't about homeopathy. Thought I'd mention this old fashioned method used long before MRI's existed (and all the many advanced scans done today) to suggest a potentially kinder/gentler/non invasive way to perhaps assist determining if her hearing loss was due to otosclerosis as that was in question and since the patient sounded concerned about undergoing an MRI. The tuning fork method might have the potential to diagnose if she does have otosclerosis (as it certainly did for me) without the emotional (and physical) trauma (and expense) to the patient.
Please accept my apology, Sheri. - Georgianna
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Both method are not mutually exclusive.
The Rinne-Weber test allows one to diagnose whether the origin of the deafness is in the middle ear or in the auditory nerve.
It does not tell you what causes it. The test is still described in detail for example in the Merck Manual.
In the middle ear, otosclerosis is indeed the most frequent cause, but there are still an appreciable number of local BCC and paragangliomas reported; if those go undiagnosed you might also spend a fortune with further hearing tests and attempts to adjust hearing aids that will not work until finally you get a proper diagnosis, having also wasted a lot of time.
Not everything is evil in conventional medicine........
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
The Rinne-Weber test allows one to diagnose whether the origin of the deafness is in the middle ear or in the auditory nerve.
It does not tell you what causes it. The test is still described in detail for example in the Merck Manual.
In the middle ear, otosclerosis is indeed the most frequent cause, but there are still an appreciable number of local BCC and paragangliomas reported; if those go undiagnosed you might also spend a fortune with further hearing tests and attempts to adjust hearing aids that will not work until finally you get a proper diagnosis, having also wasted a lot of time.
Not everything is evil in conventional medicine........
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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Nor your email above
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."