spasmodic dysphonia

[yerewan]

Hello everybody!

Has any one treated (successfully) a case with above mentioned problem?
I'm going to see next week a woman who suffers it since January.
She's got a shot of Botox without any help and going to get another one in mid December.
Any good pieces of advice to back up my inexperience with this kind of condition?
I've read some articles about the condition tho.
I know! We treating people,not diseases, but I just want to know
some info about the condition people are having.

TIA

William

[Sherill]

In reading somebody’s homeopathy page I noticed them saying that Rhus-tox is a primary consideration for spasmodic dysphonia. I am reading and considering the MM but do not see how it is indicated for spasming vocal cords that do not close all the way. This spasmodic effect keeps them from closing fully making it hard to make “hard” (like a K) sounds, speaking takes a lot of exertion, the voice is husky, whispery, and breathy. No pain. Allopathic treatment is with botox.

Can anybody help me understand why Rhus would be a strong consideration?

[Sherill]

To answer my own question, there is this:

SPEECH & VOICE; VOICE; lost; chronic (12) : carb-v., caust., dros., dulc., hep., mang., petr., phos., phyt., rhus-t., sil., sulph.
It seems so vague.
From: Sherill [mailto:sherill@ecentral.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:14 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: spasmodic dysphonia
In reading somebody’s homeopathy page I noticed them saying that Rhus-tox is a primary consideration for spasmodic dysphonia. I am reading and considering the MM but do not see how it is indicated for spasming vocal cords that do not close all the way. This spasmodic effect keeps them from closing fully making it hard to make “hard” (like a K) sounds, speaking takes a lot of exertion, the voice is husky, whispery, and breathy. No pain. Allopathic treatment is with botox.

Can anybody help me understand why Rhus would be a strong consideration?

[Jean Doherty]

Would one not think of Ignatia for spasming vocal cords.Jean

[yerewan]

you just have to take the case as it is
I once managed to help a lady with paralysis of vodal cords after intubation for a surgery with Lachesis
It had to be repeated as some time had passed after the surgery and before she came to me
but after some months she was able to sing properly what she loved to do
will

[pb000014]

It's not a strong consideration. Proper case taking and repertorizing is the "strong consideration".

A "this for that approach" is never going to give results unless by hit and miss. Hahnemann spoke about this.

Take whatever rubrics you have for the dysph
s, you'll see it in other areas. Joints, generals. Even further exploration of the experience of dystonia should tie up with rhus tox or not. Either way it gets you closer to the similimum. How does the dysphonia affect his life. What are the concomitants, physical and emotional?

For example let's say the patient is or was a performer, a singer, or did a lot of public speaking, or perhaps the answer to "If your voice was restored, what would that change in your life?" With the inability to use the voice properly and depending on the rest of the case, you might find something like Arg nit featuring.

Let us know how it goes.
Regards,
Paul
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[pb000014]

Apologies, some typo went missing. Here it is again.

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It's not a strong consideration. Proper case taking and repertorizing is the "strong consideration".

A "this for that approach" is never going to give results unless by hit and miss. Hahnemann spoke about this.

Take whatever rubrics you have for the dysphonia, as well as the rest of the case. If rhus tox fits, you'll see it in other areas. Joints, generals. Even further exploration of the experience of dystonia should tie up with rhus tox or not. Either way it gets you closer to the similimum. How does the dysphonia affect his life. What are the concomitants, physical and emotional?

For example let's say the patient is or was a performer, a singer, or did a lot of public speaking, or perhaps the answer to "If your voice was restored, what would that change in your life?" With the inability to use the voice properly and depending on the rest of the case, you might find something like Arg nit featuring.

Let us know how it goes.
Regards,
Paul
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[Sherill]

Thanks Paul and others… I do understand case taking for the remedy choice. I am classical in orientation. Maybe I should have titled this post as more of a materia medica study as I was using that as a jumping off point to understand why some homeopath would call Rhus-tox a primary choice. I just didn’t see it.
Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 1:35 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] RE: spasmodic dysphonia
It's not a strong consideration. Proper case taking and repertorizing is the "strong consideration".
A "this for that approach" is never going to give results unless by hit and miss. Hahnemann spoke about this.
Take whatever rubrics you have for the dysph

s, you'll see it in other areas. Joints, generals. Even further exploration of the experience of dystonia should tie up with rhus tox or not. Either way it gets you closer to the similimum. How does the dysphonia affect his life. What are the concomitants, physical and emotional?
For example let's say the patient is or was a performer, a singer, or did a lot of public speaking, or perhaps the answer to "If your voice was restored, what would that change in your life?" With the inability to use the voice properly and depending on the rest of the case, you might find something like Arg nit featuring.
Let us know how it goes.

Regards,

Paul
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[pb000014]

Hi Sherill,

Understood. Likewise I also am battling to see it as a primary choice, or even the idea that any remedy is a primary choice in any condition. (except maybe carbo veg for a near-corpse )

Regards,
Paul
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