developmentally arrested teen

[d_barbara_hamilton]

Yep, sorry left out the Phos ... and Hyos is often an 'extreme' Phos...

Best, Barbara

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Tamara Der-Ohanian
wrote:
the
Bufo,

[d_barbara_hamilton]

Ooops ... NBWS = Never Been Well Since...
Obviously not C.Pox. What about his birth, mum's pregnancy (drugs at
birth, etc. - apart from his father's 'habit')?

Barbara

[Dhavid & Melody]

Shannon, Hi, I am a 2nd year student so don't usually say to much...but
thanks for sharing the site on carcinsosin...
Wow, what a nice site. Another good read on carcinosin is a book by the
same name by Philip Bailey. By the way, thanks
everyone for the wonderful discussions and shared information, homeopathic,
political and otherwise.
This is a great group to be a part of.

Melody Cooper, MPH, DiHom
Houston, Texas

[J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN]

Hi Tamara,
Sorry for chipping in so late in this thread. I copied your mail to
answer in detail later and forgot!

First The father- ran away never to return. This is a
syphilitic /tubercular state.

The awkward/milk desire/amicability/ speech disorder/late milestones
are so surely in Agaricus. I believe Rosemary suggested it. It has
that muddled state of mind (Hn). Agar is a tubercular remedy and the
presenting miasm picture includes it. But this might not be a single
remedy case. Others may come in later. Especially tuberculinum- when
the case needs to be pushed.
Regards
venkat

usual
vaccinated.
height and
a little
is near
eye). He
for no
idea about
baby was
old.
patient
his
was
years old.
disorder" In
only
under the
eats
foods. Loves
dairy. Loves
milk and
kids'
complies.
starts
before
to
position on
month or so
in at age 3
He often
especially
love me?" a
church. When
friendly
always
almost
the same
was told
4. Now

[Tamara Der-Ohanian]

Hi Venkat: I have had one Agar patient in the past - another 14 year olf boy. He did well on Agar. He had such an explosive anger and the anger was the central theme of the case. This is why I can't imagine these 2 patients being similar in any way. I will read Agar again. Perhaps I have missed something.

I gave my patient Carc. to start with - because of the vaccinations.
I will report back as to what happens.
Tamara

[indu masoor]

this boy looks to have thyroid disease.Thyroidinum and other tremedies covering thyroid disease may be needed .He should have been treated along with his growth .Even now treatmentment should be prolonged one .Deep acting anti miasmatic remidies are required.
Ramachandra,
Hyderabad,INDIA

Robert&Shannon Nelson wrote:
on 11/5/04 4:49 PM, Tamara Der-Ohanian at homeopathy@sympatico.ca wrote:

Carc is a remedy I still have a lot to learn about--can you describe why it
comes strongly to mind here?
Thanks,
Shannon
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[Liana Mihai]

Sorry for the delay in responding to your e-mail. Are you still interested in getting other opinions on the developmentally arrested teen case? This is what I came up with by analyzing this case.

From your description, he appears to be a child who has a deep need for social contact and re-assurance. Certain behaviors confirm this and they are described as follows:

"He likes getting lots of attention and acceptance from people",

"He likes to greet people when they visit or go to church" ,

"When getting off the bus he always thanks the driver" ,

"He asks for hugs" and especially

"He loves touching everyone. He often gets into trouble at school for touching other kids" - a particular sx that seem to be the physical expression of this need.

Furthermore, he seems to be concerned of other people’s opinion and what he appears to be looking for is the confirmation that he’s got their attention and acceptance, as he would be in danger of loosing it and his relationship with others was at risk to be broken.

" At the end of the school day he will always ask the teacher "did I behave good?".

" He asks "do you love me?" a lot"

"He will ask the same question over and over and over."

By displaying a cheerful and friendly attitude he is probably getting what he is looking for. But what happens if he doesn’t? He becomes aggressive:

"In kindergarten he would push the kids to get their attention. He only does this sometimes now." This looks like: " If you don’t want me, I don’t want you either." Further inquiry into other signs of irritability and /or aggressivity is worthwhile.

In my opinion, all these acts are the expression of an underlying feeling of insecurity, which seems to represent the essence of the case. Is this coming from the absence of the father? Possibly. The boy is definitely missing him: "He often asks to see his father's picture"
He seems to unconsciously be compensating this feeling by eating a lot and drinking a lot. A strong desire for sweets is typically the expression of the need for affection.

The general aspects in his development are dominated by slowness (walking late, speaking late, and also diagnosed with "global developmental disorder")

I took the rubrics (Radar)

MIND - INSECURITY; mental

MIND - SENSITIVE - opinion of others; to the

MIND - TOUCHING everything; impelled to

MIND - AFFECTIONATE

MIND - SOCIABILITY

MIND - CHEERFUL – causeless

MIND - LAUGHING – easily

MIND - SLOWNESS

MIND - SPEECH - hasty

GENERALS - EATING - fast

STOMACH - THIRST - large quantities, for

STOMACH - THIRST – night

The remedies that came up are: Ars, Sacch, Sulph, and Bry.

We can exclude Ars, as it is a chilly remedy, whereas the patient is hot and sweats easily.

I think there is a strong indication that Saccharum Officinale matches the case. He is not as self-centered as you would expect a Sulphur patient to be, nor has he a significant amount of Bryonia’s irritability. But this needs to be confirmed.

I checked the description of Saccharum Officinale patient on Tinus Smits’ web site: http://www.tinussmits.nl and it seems to match this case. He has the best description of this remedy.

Other rubrics where Sacch is present:

MIND - CONFIDENCE - want of self-confidence - support; desires - family and friends; from

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - cold drink, cold water - desire

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - meat - desire

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - milk - desire - cold

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - spices - desire

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - sweets - desire

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - vegetables - desire - raw

GENERALS - OBESITY - children, in

I think that you would still need to find out what are his reactions/behavior when hungry; before eating and after eating; does he eat a lot of sweets? How is he acting after eating sweets? – in order to confirm the remedy.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Liana

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tamara Der-Ohanian wrote:

Here is the case:

I talked to the mother today and she told me he has had all the usual

vaccinations to date. First she had told me he had not been

vaccinated.

English is not her first language so it could have been a

misunderstanding.

Physical appearance: Male - 14 years old. He is of average height and

stocky built - perhaps 20lbs overweight. His left eye droops a little

and he is cross-eyed. Other than that he appears normal. He is near

sighted and has been wearing glasses since the age of 4-5 (< L eye).

He

is always smiling and happy. Sometimes he giggles continuously for no

reason.

Medical History: The mother is 41 and healthy. She has no idea about

the father's health, except that he was on cocaine while the baby was

conceived. The father disappeared when the boy was 3 years old. They

have not heard from him since or know of his whereabouts. The maternal

grandparents have stroke, arthritis and high cholesterol. The patient

has had chicken pox, bronchitis (2-3X) and eczema as a child.

Pregnancy: progressed well. He was born 2 weeks late - induced

labour.

He was breast fed for 8 months.

At one month he was having nightmares (according to mother) in his

sleep. He would cry, but not wake up.

When he was 5-6 months old, the mother noticed that something was

wrong.

He would stare into space for long periods.

He walked at 14 months, and started saying a few words at 3 years old.

At 5 years he was diagnosed with "global developmental disorder" In

kindergarten he would push the kids to get their attention. He only

does this sometimes now.

Prior to being circumcised at age 2, he would get infections under the

foreskin.

He gets out of bed easily and has lots of energy in the a.m.

Appetite: He LOVES to eat. He always says "I'm hungry". He eats

everything and anything. He eats very fast. Loves spicy foods. Loves

meat and rice. Loves all vegetables and fruits. Loves all dairy.

Loves

sweets. He has no aversion to foods. He loves cold water, milk and

orange juice and is very thirsty. Sometimes he will take other kids'

food away at school. When told to give it back, he readily complies.

Temp: He is hot and sweats very easily - can be clammy

He loves children and music. He smiles when he hears music and starts

walking around happily.

Sleep: He is in the habit of drinking a few glasses of water before

bed. He wakes up at least once to urinate, and goes right back to

sleep. He is a restless sleeper and sleeps in the fetal position on

either side.

Digestion is normal

Bowels are notmal - move 3 times a day

Urination is normal.

He was touching his genitals occasionally, but in the last month or so

has started doing it more regularly.

As baby he had eczema on L then R foot.

Had lots of ear infections as a kid and had to have tubes put in at age

3

Personality: Very affectionate and loves touching everyone. He often

gets into trouble at school for touching other kids. He especially

likes touching the girls. He asks for hugs and asks "do you love me?"

a

lot. He likes to greet people when they visit or go to church. When

getting off the bus he always thanks the driver. He is very friendly

and will talk to anyone. He likes getting lots of attention and

acceptance from people. At the end of the school day he will always

ask

the teacher "did I behave good?".

He speaks very fast and it is difficult to understand him. It almost

sounds like he is speaking a different language. He will ask the same

question over and over and over.

He often asks to see his father's picture.

He once stabbed his hand with a pencil at school, because he was told

he

could not go out and play until he finishes his assignment.

Tics: He used to snap his fingers all the time from grade 3 - 4. Now

he sticks his tongue out a lot.

Fears: being alone, the dark, ALL animals including insects.
Liana Mihai
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[liana_mihai]

Hi Tamara,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your e-mail. If you are you
still interested in getting other opinions on the developmentally
arrested teen case, this is what I came up with in analyzing this
case.

From your description, he appears to be a child who has a deep need
for social contact and re-assurance. Certain behaviors confirm this
and they are described as follows:
"He likes getting lots of attention and acceptance
from people",
"He likes to greet people when they visit or go to church" ,
"When getting off the bus he always thanks the driver" ,
"He asks for hugs" and especially
"He loves touching everyone. He often gets into trouble at school for
touching other kids" - a particular sx that seem to be the physical
expression of this need.

Furthermore, he seems to be concerned of other people's opinion and
what he appears to be looking for is the confirmation that he's got
their attention and acceptance, as he would be in danger of loosing
it and his relationship with others was at risk to be broken.
" At the end of the school day he will always ask the teacher "did I
behave good?".
" He asks "do you love me?" a lot"
"He will ask the same question over and over and over."

By displaying a cheerful and friendly attitude he is probably getting
what he is looking for most of the times. But what happens if he
doesn't? He becomes aggressive:
"In kindergarten he would push the kids to get their attention. He
only does this sometimes now." This looks like: " If you don't want
me, I don't want you either." Further inquiry into other signs of
irritability and /or aggressivity is worthwhile.

In my opinion, all these acts are the expression of an underlying
feeling of insecurity, which seems to represent the essence of the
case. Is this coming from the absence of the father? Possibly. The
boy is definitely missing him: "He often asks to see his father's
picture"
He seems to unconsciously be compensating this feeling by eating a
lot and drinking a lot. A strong desire for sweets is typically the
expression of the need for affection.

The general aspects in his development are dominated by slowness
(walking late, speaking late, and also diagnosed with "global
developmental disorder")

I took the rubrics (Radar)

MIND - INSECURITY; mental
MIND - SENSITIVE - opinion of others; to the
MIND - TOUCHING everything; impelled to
MIND - AFFECTIONATE
MIND - SOCIABILITY
MIND - CHEERFUL – causeless
MIND - LAUGHING – easily
MIND - SLOWNESS
MIND - SPEECH - hasty
GENERALS - EATING - fast
STOMACH - THIRST - large quantities, for
STOMACH - THIRST – night

The remedies that came up are: Ars, Sacch, Sulph, and Bry.
We can exclude Ars, as it is a chilly remedy, whereas the patient is
hot and sweats easily.
I think there is a strong possibility that Saccharum Officinale
matches the case. He is not as self-centered as you would expect a
Sulphur patient to be, nor has he a significant amount of Bryonia's
irritability. But this needs to be confirmed.

I checked the description of Saccharum Officinale patient on Tinus
Smits' web site: http://www.tinussmits.nl and it seems to match this
case. He has the best description of this remedy.

Other rubrics where Sacch is present:

MIND - CONFIDENCE - want of self-confidence - support; desires -
family and friends; from

GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - cold drink, cold water - desire
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - meat - desire
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - milk - desire - cold
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - spices - desire
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - sweets - desire
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - vegetables - desire - raw
GENERALS - OBESITY - children, in

I think that you would still need to find out what are his
reactions/behavior when hungry; before eating and after eating; does
he eat a lot of sweets? How is he acting after eating sweets? – in
order to confirm the remedy.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Liana
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

Tamara Der-Ohanian wrote:
Here is the case:
I talked to the mother today and she told me he has had all the usual
vaccinations to date. First she had told me he had not been
vaccinated.
English is not her first language so it could have been a
misunderstanding.

Physical appearance: Male - 14 years old. He is of average height
and
stocky built - perhaps 20lbs overweight. His left eye droops a
little
and he is cross-eyed. Other than that he appears normal. He is near
sighted and has been wearing glasses since the age of 4-5 (< L eye).
He
is always smiling and happy. Sometimes he giggles continuously for no
reason.

Medical History: The mother is 41 and healthy. She has no idea
about
the father's health, except that he was on cocaine while the baby was
conceived. The father disappeared when the boy was 3 years old.
They
have not heard from him since or know of his whereabouts. The
maternal
grandparents have stroke, arthritis and high cholesterol. The
patient
has had chicken pox, bronchitis (2-3X) and eczema as a child.

Pregnancy: progressed well. He was born 2 weeks late - induced
labour.
He was breast fed for 8 months.

At one month he was having nightmares (according to mother) in his
sleep. He would cry, but not wake up.

When he was 5-6 months old, the mother noticed that something was
wrong.
He would stare into space for long periods.
He walked at 14 months, and started saying a few words at 3 years
old.
At 5 years he was diagnosed with "global developmental disorder" In
kindergarten he would push the kids to get their attention. He only
does this sometimes now.

Prior to being circumcised at age 2, he would get infections under
the
foreskin.

He gets out of bed easily and has lots of energy in the a.m.

Appetite: He LOVES to eat. He always says "I'm hungry". He eats
everything and anything. He eats very fast. Loves spicy foods.
Loves
meat and rice. Loves all vegetables and fruits. Loves all dairy.
Loves
sweets. He has no aversion to foods. He loves cold water, milk and
orange juice and is very thirsty. Sometimes he will take other kids'
food away at school. When told to give it back, he readily
complies.

Temp: He is hot and sweats very easily - can be clammy

He loves children and music. He smiles when he hears music and
starts
walking around happily.

Sleep: He is in the habit of drinking a few glasses of water before
bed. He wakes up at least once to urinate, and goes right back to
sleep. He is a restless sleeper and sleeps in the fetal position on
either side.

Digestion is normal
Bowels are notmal - move 3 times a day
Urination is normal.

He was touching his genitals occasionally, but in the last month or
so
has started doing it more regularly.

As baby he had eczema on L then R foot.
Had lots of ear infections as a kid and had to have tubes put in at
age
3

Personality: Very affectionate and loves touching everyone. He
often
gets into trouble at school for touching other kids. He especially
likes touching the girls. He asks for hugs and asks "do you love
me?"
a
lot. He likes to greet people when they visit or go to church. When
getting off the bus he always thanks the driver. He is very friendly
and will talk to anyone. He likes getting lots of attention and
acceptance from people. At the end of the school day he will always
ask
the teacher "did I behave good?".
He speaks very fast and it is difficult to understand him. It almost
sounds like he is speaking a different language. He will ask the
same
question over and over and over.
He often asks to see his father's picture.
He once stabbed his hand with a pencil at school, because he was told
he
could not go out and play until he finishes his assignment.

Tics: He used to snap his fingers all the time from grade 3 - 4.
Now
he sticks his tongue out a lot.

Fears: being alone, the dark, ALL animals including insects.