hi all,
what are the advantages to the prover by drug proving?
thanx
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Julian Winston
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Re: drug proving
At 2:05 AM +0100 10/29/04, raji balasubramanian wrote:
Read Hahnemann!
Aside from the fact of YOU learning what things feel like, the
proving boosts your body's vitality by giving it a series of
artificial diseases to work against. YOu always come out stronger.
JW
Read Hahnemann!
Aside from the fact of YOU learning what things feel like, the
proving boosts your body's vitality by giving it a series of
artificial diseases to work against. YOu always come out stronger.
JW
Re: drug proving
I have to say that not all people will come out stronger,
I know of a Homoeopath [Mancinella constitution] who did a lot of provings
on himself with different remedies and now apart from being Mancinella is
definitely a lot more unstable! In college a Carcinosin also had the same
experience of being extremely psycotic after provings. Only two cases but
that is why you always check out the physical and MENTAL health of potential
provers.
I know of a Homoeopath [Mancinella constitution] who did a lot of provings
on himself with different remedies and now apart from being Mancinella is
definitely a lot more unstable! In college a Carcinosin also had the same
experience of being extremely psycotic after provings. Only two cases but
that is why you always check out the physical and MENTAL health of potential
provers.
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Julian Winston
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Re: drug proving
At 3:22 PM +1000 10/29/04, liz lalor wrote:
JW wrote:
Yes. oops. I'd have to agree with Liz. Gaby pointed out that William
Tod Helmuth's proving of Lyssin left him with a permanently changed
left eye. Look at any pic of him and you'll notice his left eye
drifting up and in.
As with any interaction between person and thing (be it weather,
food, drug, etc.) the outcome is all idiosyncratic to the person.
As with the thread on folks taking cannabis and LSD, those too were
provings, and different people react differently. Nothing is to taken
lightly. A proving is a serious undertaking.
JW
JW wrote:
Yes. oops. I'd have to agree with Liz. Gaby pointed out that William
Tod Helmuth's proving of Lyssin left him with a permanently changed
left eye. Look at any pic of him and you'll notice his left eye
drifting up and in.
As with any interaction between person and thing (be it weather,
food, drug, etc.) the outcome is all idiosyncratic to the person.
As with the thread on folks taking cannabis and LSD, those too were
provings, and different people react differently. Nothing is to taken
lightly. A proving is a serious undertaking.
JW
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Peter Graham
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Re: drug proving
I have to agree. I know 2 people who were extremely aversely affected by
doing provings. One was an Aussie snake and he still has throat ptoblems
several years later. You don't muck around with Australian snakes!
Michele.
doing provings. One was an Aussie snake and he still has throat ptoblems
several years later. You don't muck around with Australian snakes!
Michele.
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Simon King LCPH MARH
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Re: drug proving
didn't Hering do himself a mischief too?
regards
Simon King
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regards
Simon King
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Re: drug proving
At 10:14 AM +0100 10/29/04, Simon King wrote:
Oh my!!
Mythology raises its head.
Short answer... not really.
The myth is that he did so much Lachesis that he was left paralyzed
on his left side.
There is NOTHING in the literature that mentions this. If you read
all the eulogies for Hering in "Life of Hering" you will find not a
mention of paralysis.
The only mention of something amiss is from Bayard who said something
to the effect of Hering bearing the badge of Lachesis for his life.
A close examination of what we know about his life had him treated
once or twice for a fistula by Lippe.
That's it.
Same with Kent's wife being permanently engrafted with Lachesis.
I have found NO support for this, although Gypser says he heard that
from Schmidt but Schmidt was very wrong about many details and
created quite a number of myths.
JW
Oh my!!
Mythology raises its head.
Short answer... not really.
The myth is that he did so much Lachesis that he was left paralyzed
on his left side.
There is NOTHING in the literature that mentions this. If you read
all the eulogies for Hering in "Life of Hering" you will find not a
mention of paralysis.
The only mention of something amiss is from Bayard who said something
to the effect of Hering bearing the badge of Lachesis for his life.
A close examination of what we know about his life had him treated
once or twice for a fistula by Lippe.
That's it.
Same with Kent's wife being permanently engrafted with Lachesis.
I have found NO support for this, although Gypser says he heard that
from Schmidt but Schmidt was very wrong about many details and
created quite a number of myths.
JW
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raji balasubramanian
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Re: drug proving
hi,
i understood after reading organon that drug proving boosts body vitality i.e our immunity is improved.But i have a doubt, is the immunity that is produced is against the same set of symptoms that r produced in the drug proving?
eg: while drug proving if we get conjuctivitis later he is not affected by it.
raji.
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i understood after reading organon that drug proving boosts body vitality i.e our immunity is improved.But i have a doubt, is the immunity that is produced is against the same set of symptoms that r produced in the drug proving?
eg: while drug proving if we get conjuctivitis later he is not affected by it.
raji.
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: drug proving
I think Hahnemann's specification that provings be done on *healthy* people
is relevant! A healthy person will be far more able to completely integrate
(and re-balance after) the effects of the proving! (But yeah, "health" is a
relative term.)
on 10/29/04 3:01 AM, Peter Graham at freshash@optusnet.com.au wrote:
is relevant! A healthy person will be far more able to completely integrate
(and re-balance after) the effects of the proving! (But yeah, "health" is a
relative term.)
on 10/29/04 3:01 AM, Peter Graham at freshash@optusnet.com.au wrote:
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: drug proving
It wouldn't be specific like that.
Maybe a useful metaphor would "problem solving". A person who engages in
many activites, overcomes many obstacles, perseveres thru many perplexing
situations etc., becomes someone who is good at solving problems, good at
getting thru difficult situations, not just the specific situations they've
already solved.
A person who works at at the gym a lot becomes stronger and better able to
do *many* athletic tasks, not merely better at working out on machines.
I assume that provings would work the same way--exercise for the body's
adaptive capability.
And *as* with the above examples, a "workout" that is appropriate, is
strengthening; a workout that is "too much" may be damaging and
counterproductive.
Shannon
on 10/29/04 7:28 AM, raji balasubramanian at raji_bs2004@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Maybe a useful metaphor would "problem solving". A person who engages in
many activites, overcomes many obstacles, perseveres thru many perplexing
situations etc., becomes someone who is good at solving problems, good at
getting thru difficult situations, not just the specific situations they've
already solved.
A person who works at at the gym a lot becomes stronger and better able to
do *many* athletic tasks, not merely better at working out on machines.
I assume that provings would work the same way--exercise for the body's
adaptive capability.
And *as* with the above examples, a "workout" that is appropriate, is
strengthening; a workout that is "too much" may be damaging and
counterproductive.
Shannon
on 10/29/04 7:28 AM, raji balasubramanian at raji_bs2004@yahoo.co.in wrote: