Digest Number 1662

[Theresa Partington]

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Is this an additonal dietary suggestion? Or am I showing my age?

Theresa
From: "David Hartley"
Subject: RE: 10 Food Remedies for Reducing High Blood Pressure

spam...
David Hartley www.holistiq.com
San Francisco EastBay (510)776-5914
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[Dave Hartley]

funny !
Spam is officially defined as unsolicited commercial email, but has an
accepted broader definition including off-topic postings to an e-list or
BBS.
It's namesake, the meat-food-byproduct in a can, is a desireable
delicacy in many parts of Hawaii.

As the saying goes-- One man's meat is another man's poison
-and regarding diet & nutrition this holds much more truth than "an
apple a day" & so on.

As with homeopathy, in nutrition & diet, one size does not fit all !
David Hartley www.holistiq.com
San Francisco EastBay (510)776-5914
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[Shannon Nelson]

Dave,

I've been debating whether to say anything on this or not, but here goes...
First, "off-topic" doesn't really apply to info on diet, lifestyle and
regimen, as this is *VERY MUCH* part of our homeopathic framework --
Hahnemann, as you know, was *way* into it, and in today's world it is an
even bigger (MUCH bigger!!!!) concern than it was back then. Today, I would
say it is *essential* knowledge.

As you say, it's not a "one size fits all", and the information is readily
available elsewhere. Same, however, can be said of the materia medica and
other information we revel in here. Altho I would not like to see
discussions on nutrition come to *dominate* the list, I do *not* think it is
off-topic at all! And, I think it is very necessary that people feel free
to both ask the questions that concern them, *and* share the information and
resources that they have found useful. If you don't want it, don't read it;
but leave the "airwaves" free for the rest of us to pick-and-choose as we
see fit.

Selling "miracle herbs" -- or selling anything, for that matter -- is quite
a different issue; this is not an appropriate place to post advertisements.
(And I gather that the URL posted had unfortunately been taken up by a
commercial interest, but that was evidently not the intention of the poster,
and that is not the issue you have been addressing.)

Again, I feel it is important to the quality of this list that people *do*
feel free to share information that they have found useful -- *even* if it
is not useful to you personally . (Myself, I don't find the "memory of
water" and etc. discussions useful, but they are neither more nor less
"on-topic" than nutritional information, IMO.)

Please save your wit and determination for those areas where it is *needed*;
don't waste chasing imaginary flies, so to speak. But anyway, I won't
pursue this one any further, as we all have bigger fish to fry, LOL!

Cheers,
Shannon
on 8/11/04 2:13 PM, David Hartley at dave@holistiq.com wrote:

[Dave Hartley]

Shannon:
You have been around long enough to know that off-topic junk can (has)
quickly clogged up this and other lists.

Any list which fails to retain its topical focus becomes a junkheap.
This is a simple axiom of cyberspace, not a question for debate.

If people wish to contribute peripherally related information on an
occasional basis, it should preferably be done in such a way as to tie
it in to our
TOPICAL FOCUS

-else, every lurker will interpret this as license to post h/ir
miracle-cure-of-the-month, etc.

If you (or anyone) need more email(!) on broader topics than our topical
focus (classical homeopathy) - you &/or they can PLEASE join some other
lists ! There are uncounted numbers of them.
Look here
www.groups.google.com
have fun, and keep it on topic.

thanks.

David Hartley www.holistiq.com
San Francisco EastBay (510)776-5914
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[Shannon Nelson]

While I agree with your principle, that clogging the list with unrelated
chatter is not useful, I think your energy is misapplied in this instance.
The post in question would have added precisely two posts to the (not
off-topic) "clutter". OTOH the discussion that your objection has generated
has added quite a lot of clutter.

We now have three folks on record as having appreciated that post, while no
one but yourself found it objectionable.

I've also been around long enough to know that, while your contributions are
often valuable, they equally often sow dissension where none was needed.
And long enough to know that arguing with you seldom yields anything but
more of the same, so I will try to make this my last on the subject.

Keep peace, Dave. Life's too short...
Best wishes,
Shannon
on 8/11/04 4:52 PM, David Hartley at dave@holistiq.com wrote:

[CHMuths]

In a message dated 12.08.2004 04:03:08 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit,
shannonnelson@tds.net writes:

We now have three folks on record as having appreciated that post, while no
one but yourself found it objectionable.

I've also been around long enough to know that, while your contributions are
often valuable, they equally often sow dissension where none was needed.
And long enough to know that arguing with you seldom yields anything but
more of the same, so I will try to make this my last on the subject.

Keep peace, Dave. Life's too short...
Best wishes,
Shannon
I totally agree with Shannon here: we talk about two posting which I
appriciated and maybe they might have been off-topic. And now we have an almost
bitter dispute which really clocks up the mail box.
This is my first comment on the subject and it will be my last.
Keep it flowing, there is no need to throw stones.
Best wishes
Christa Muths
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