[H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
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[H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
At 12:04 PM -0700 7/22/04, Dana Ullman, MPH wrote:
This is an amazing book.
Of course, it isn't going to tell you anything about finding a remedy
for that hard case, nor give you any hints about clinical practice...
But it is the clearest exposition of the history of the clinical
trial ever done. THe information is mind-boggling.
This book clearly places Hahnemann within the medical system of the
times in which he lived and explains how his processes were
influenced by the current thought of the time. When I come across a
quote on the web like this:
"Homeopathy was founded by the mystic Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843) in
an era when all sorts of angel beliefs were abroad. His book on
demonic Psora. Hahnemann, the L. Ron Hubbard of his day, claimed that
reading his book was sufficient to frighten away many of the demonic
Psora inhabiting sick peoples' bodies, & he aggressively sold the
book to patients as a "medicine" in & of itself."
I realize how little some people understand the history of medicine
and how homeopathy developed in a logical fashion.
Michael Emmans Dean had done a great service by collecting the data
and masking it accessible in the book. And the Appendicies on the CD
are priceless.
GREAT BOOK!!
JW
This is an amazing book.
Of course, it isn't going to tell you anything about finding a remedy
for that hard case, nor give you any hints about clinical practice...
But it is the clearest exposition of the history of the clinical
trial ever done. THe information is mind-boggling.
This book clearly places Hahnemann within the medical system of the
times in which he lived and explains how his processes were
influenced by the current thought of the time. When I come across a
quote on the web like this:
"Homeopathy was founded by the mystic Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843) in
an era when all sorts of angel beliefs were abroad. His book on
demonic Psora. Hahnemann, the L. Ron Hubbard of his day, claimed that
reading his book was sufficient to frighten away many of the demonic
Psora inhabiting sick peoples' bodies, & he aggressively sold the
book to patients as a "medicine" in & of itself."
I realize how little some people understand the history of medicine
and how homeopathy developed in a logical fashion.
Michael Emmans Dean had done a great service by collecting the data
and masking it accessible in the book. And the Appendicies on the CD
are priceless.
GREAT BOOK!!
JW
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
Dear all,
[snip]
Absolutely - a must-have for anyone interested in the REAL trials!
Wonderful book!
Best,
Gaby
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de
http://www.curantur.de
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[snip]
Absolutely - a must-have for anyone interested in the REAL trials!
Wonderful book!
Best,
Gaby
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de
http://www.curantur.de
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
recived your mail regarding book">"THE TRIALS OF HOMEOPATHY: ORIGINS, STRUCTURE, AND DEVELOPMENT" I am insterested for purchesing the same book for our colllege library, please send the details of method of receving the book with regards to price,transportation charges etc.
thanking you,
Dr.Arti Patil
Julian Winston wrote:
At 12:04 PM -0700 7/22/04, Dana Ullman, MPH wrote:
This is an amazing book.
Of course, it isn't going to tell you anything about finding a remedy
for that hard case, nor give you any hints about clinical practice...
But it is the clearest exposition of the history of the clinical
trial ever done. THe information is mind-boggling.
This book clearly places Hahnemann within the medical system of the
times in which he lived and explains how his processes were
influenced by the current thought of the time. When I come across a
quote on the web like this:
"Homeopathy was founded by the mystic Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843) in
an era when all sorts of angel beliefs were abroad. His book on
demonic Psora. Hahnemann, the L. Ron Hubbard of his day, claimed that
reading his book was sufficient to frighten away many of the demonic
Psora inhabiting sick peoples' bodies, & he aggressively sold the
book to patients as a "medicine" in & of itself."
I realize how little some people understand the history of medicine
and how homeopathy developed in a logical fashion.
Michael Emmans Dean had done a great service by collecting the data
and masking it accessible in the book. And the Appendicies on the CD
are priceless.
GREAT BOOK!!
JW
Clinical Guidance for Homeopaths and Students of Homeopathy!
http://www.shahrdarhost.net/Clinical%20Guidance.htm
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thanking you,
Dr.Arti Patil
Julian Winston wrote:
At 12:04 PM -0700 7/22/04, Dana Ullman, MPH wrote:
This is an amazing book.
Of course, it isn't going to tell you anything about finding a remedy
for that hard case, nor give you any hints about clinical practice...
But it is the clearest exposition of the history of the clinical
trial ever done. THe information is mind-boggling.
This book clearly places Hahnemann within the medical system of the
times in which he lived and explains how his processes were
influenced by the current thought of the time. When I come across a
quote on the web like this:
"Homeopathy was founded by the mystic Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843) in
an era when all sorts of angel beliefs were abroad. His book on
demonic Psora. Hahnemann, the L. Ron Hubbard of his day, claimed that
reading his book was sufficient to frighten away many of the demonic
Psora inhabiting sick peoples' bodies, & he aggressively sold the
book to patients as a "medicine" in & of itself."
I realize how little some people understand the history of medicine
and how homeopathy developed in a logical fashion.
Michael Emmans Dean had done a great service by collecting the data
and masking it accessible in the book. And the Appendicies on the CD
are priceless.
GREAT BOOK!!
JW
Clinical Guidance for Homeopaths and Students of Homeopathy!
http://www.shahrdarhost.net/Clinical%20Guidance.htm
ATTENTION PLEASE:
The Minutus Group is established purely for the promotion of Homoeopathy and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential, incidental, special, punitive or other damages whatsoever and howsoever caused.
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
Dear Dr Patil
You can order my book direct from the publisher KVC-Verlag. Just
email Maria Frühwald at
m.fruehwald@carstens-stiftung.de
It costs €18.40 + post.
I believe Homeopathic Educational Services may also sell it.
Regards, Mike Emmans Dean
ORIGINS, STRUCTURE, AND DEVELOPMENT" I am insterested for purchesing
the same book for our colllege library, please send the details of
method of receving the book with regards to price,transportation
charges etc.
You can order my book direct from the publisher KVC-Verlag. Just
email Maria Frühwald at
m.fruehwald@carstens-stiftung.de
It costs €18.40 + post.
I believe Homeopathic Educational Services may also sell it.
Regards, Mike Emmans Dean
ORIGINS, STRUCTURE, AND DEVELOPMENT" I am insterested for purchesing
the same book for our colllege library, please send the details of
method of receving the book with regards to price,transportation
charges etc.
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
on 7/23/04 4:18 AM, Julian Winston at jwinston@actrix.gen.nz wrote:
Wow, it would be a blast to take them to court on that (no money, I know,
sob...) Where on earth did you see this quote???
Nauseous,
Shannon
Wow, it would be a blast to take them to court on that (no money, I know,
sob...) Where on earth did you see this quote???
Nauseous,
Shannon
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
At 10:38 AM -0500 7/26/04, Bob&Shannon wrote:
http://www.paghat.com/fothergill.html
The author styles herself "Paghat the Ratgirl" and lives near Puget
Sound. If we're going to diss homeopathy from the secular side, we
might as well diss it from the religious side as well. This page
argues homeopathy is the devil's spawn and should be avoided by all
Christians.
PLEASE! Pay attention to the usage mentioned by E. B. White in his
magnificent "Element of Style."!
What you with to express is that you are *nauseated*.
As E. B. White says, "Don not say 'I am nauseous' unless you are sure
you have that effect on others."
JW
http://www.paghat.com/fothergill.html
The author styles herself "Paghat the Ratgirl" and lives near Puget
Sound. If we're going to diss homeopathy from the secular side, we
might as well diss it from the religious side as well. This page
argues homeopathy is the devil's spawn and should be avoided by all
Christians.
PLEASE! Pay attention to the usage mentioned by E. B. White in his
magnificent "Element of Style."!
What you with to express is that you are *nauseated*.
As E. B. White says, "Don not say 'I am nauseous' unless you are sure
you have that effect on others."
JW
Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
These are the exact words that shocked a evening class of students I was taking when at the last session a born again Christian doctor (MD) said them!!! I let her have her say and then got on with the rest of the session! This was about 2 years ago. I wonder if she had read that book.
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
Julian,
I'd like to ask a question about the term "Occult" in the context of homeopathy. In reading Dr. Grimmer's book (edited by Dr. Currim) he wrote about Occult aspects of homeopathy, and I kind of assumed it had something to do with blood, but may be mistaken. Can you or anyone else give me a correct translation and definition of this word in this frame of reference?
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
Shannon,
The quote is from a long, cantankerous letter on Medscape where the guy
berates just about everything in alternative healing, especially ND's. Don't
recall his name--should be easy to find though.
George U.
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The quote is from a long, cantankerous letter on Medscape where the guy
berates just about everything in alternative healing, especially ND's. Don't
recall his name--should be easy to find though.
George U.
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Re: [H] New book on clinical research in homeopathy!
Hi Jennifer,
You may have noticed, Ratgirl's write-up is just crammed *full* of
inaccuracy, innuendo, slander, and general weirdness. Ranging from
completely inaccurate description of how remedies are made (and that's the
*easy* part!), to describing The Organon as an "occult romance"
(ROTFLLL!!!!!! "Occult romance"???? Did they even *read* the book, even a
tiny little bit????) And oh yeah, remarking that "Positronium" is
responsible for memory of water, and that scientists can't even detect it
("it" presumably meaning the positron, which of course is *quite* detectable
these days, if you've spent your few million dollars on the right tools).
It strikes me as a hodgepodge of "mistakes" that really couldn't have been
innocently made; someone's got an agenda, not to mention an attitude.
Weird, and unfortuante... I've written her to ask what her sources are, but
am not surprised that so far I haven't gotten an answer to that -- the she
did send a note saying that "my [i.e. her] assessment of homeopathy is
historically & scientifically correct, not one inaccuracy, not one
exaggeration. If you find it libelous, sue me [an enchanting idea, as then
they would have to offer "sources", which should be entertaining]. The very
idea that truth is libelous is about as rational as your apparent faith."
And a little bit more, but that was the gist of her answer. Ah well, I see
no point in arguing with someone whose mind is already closed. Sad...
And yes, her usage of the word "occult" has nothing whatever to do with its
use within homeopathy. In homeopathic texts "occult" indeed would usually
refer to blood, and simply mean, as Julian noted, "hidden", not visible.
Shannon
on 7/26/04 7:02 PM, Ruby at ruby@industryinet.com wrote:
You may have noticed, Ratgirl's write-up is just crammed *full* of
inaccuracy, innuendo, slander, and general weirdness. Ranging from
completely inaccurate description of how remedies are made (and that's the
*easy* part!), to describing The Organon as an "occult romance"
(ROTFLLL!!!!!! "Occult romance"???? Did they even *read* the book, even a
tiny little bit????) And oh yeah, remarking that "Positronium" is
responsible for memory of water, and that scientists can't even detect it
("it" presumably meaning the positron, which of course is *quite* detectable
these days, if you've spent your few million dollars on the right tools).
It strikes me as a hodgepodge of "mistakes" that really couldn't have been
innocently made; someone's got an agenda, not to mention an attitude.
Weird, and unfortuante... I've written her to ask what her sources are, but
am not surprised that so far I haven't gotten an answer to that -- the she
did send a note saying that "my [i.e. her] assessment of homeopathy is
historically & scientifically correct, not one inaccuracy, not one
exaggeration. If you find it libelous, sue me [an enchanting idea, as then
they would have to offer "sources", which should be entertaining]. The very
idea that truth is libelous is about as rational as your apparent faith."
And a little bit more, but that was the gist of her answer. Ah well, I see
no point in arguing with someone whose mind is already closed. Sad...
And yes, her usage of the word "occult" has nothing whatever to do with its
use within homeopathy. In homeopathic texts "occult" indeed would usually
refer to blood, and simply mean, as Julian noted, "hidden", not visible.
Shannon
on 7/26/04 7:02 PM, Ruby at ruby@industryinet.com wrote: