Walking on toes

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Colleagues

I saw a boy of 6 who has been damaged by Vaccines. (MMR in on leg and HIBs
in the other at the same time at about age 15 month)
He had reached his miles stones perfectly before vaccine and did say a few
words.

NOW he has no language and does not always seem to respond to commands.

Since 6 months ago he has started to walk on tip toes.

Apart from EXTREMITIES - WALKING - toes; walking on - must walk on toes (
Lathyrus Sativus) do we know of any other remedy that may have this symptom
please.

Also those of you with experience of treating autistic children, please
advise if this is a common symptom.
He has another characteristic. On occasions will bite, pinch or scratch and
when he sees that the other person (brother, mum/dad) has been hurt will
laugh.
Would using the rubric Malicious be justified?

Rgds
Soroush
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[J Lucas]

I have seen this twice, once with a DPT damage but one without any vaccine
input at all but the child still was autistic. I tend to think it is more
common than we imagine. This latter case the child was mimicking and thought
is was very funny (which it was) - so very different cases.

Is there any way you can find out if there is pain when walking, also how
dominant is this sx, i.e. how often does the child do this? Is it a bit like
gressus gallinaceus?

I think you will find that Crot h, Nit a and Secale have this. Secale also
bites and laughs and does lots of lovely crazy things with the hands. I
would be careful how you interpret the biting and laughing but have a look
at Secale.

let me know if you need further help.

Best, Joy

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on 5/7/04 12:22 PM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:

Dear Colleagues

I saw a boy of 6 who has been damaged by Vaccines. (MMR in on leg and HIBs
in the other at the same time at about age 15 month)
He had reached his miles stones perfectly before vaccine and did say a few
words.

NOW he has no language and does not always seem to respond to commands.

Since 6 months ago he has started to walk on tip toes.

Apart from EXTREMITIES - WALKING - toes; walking on - must walk on toes (
Lathyrus Sativus) do we know of any other remedy that may have this symptom
please.

Also those of you with experience of treating autistic children, please
advise if this is a common symptom.
He has another characteristic. On occasions will bite, pinch or scratch and
when he sees that the other person (brother, mum/dad) has been hurt will
laugh.
Would using the rubric Malicious be justified?

Rgds
Soroush

[Eleana Needham]

I was at a seminar recently with Ann Callaghan, an Irish homeopath who does
a lot of work with autistic and vaccine-damaged children. She said that
walking on toes is a strong indication of autistic tendencies and she has
seen it many times in her practice. She said it was an indication
associated with shock, as if the child did not really want to have any
contact with the ground. She went on to say that it was a sign of
incomplete incarnation, or, possibly the soul not wanting to fully inhabit
the body (due to shock or trauma which would explain the vax damage). She
said that grounding is a very important issue with children who display such
symptoms, i.e. it is safe to be on this earth and fully touch the ground.
The paramount issue is that the child needs to feel SAFE.

I do not know whether this is of any help - I know I would look at remedies
and vibrational essences which lack grounding like Phos or help a person
ground/incarnate fully. I would also look at FEAR, the existential kind of
fear, where, possibly, the aggressive behaviour stems from. Like Joy said,
to attribute maliciousness to this behaviour may be misleading.

One remedy that came to mind strongly as I was reading your post Soroush was
Scorpion.

FWIW
Eleana

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[Beth Landau-Halpern]

I have noticed toe-walking in a number of autistic patients -- there seems
to be a fore-shortening of their tendons. I suggest "Laughing over serious
matters" rather than malicious.
Beth

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[V.T. Yekkirala]

Hi,
Yes, every word of what you wrote is very true
Thanks,
V.T.Yekkirala.
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[Eileen Dannemann]

don't have much time at the moment as traveling but saw this.

Yes, it is common with ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) - especially Aspergers which is on the spectrum

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/autism.htm
for my links to autism info

No time for more - so sorry
Sheri