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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

When we consider remedies, it becomes clear that some have a major bias of
symptoms towards at least one of the miasms. So we have psoric,
psoric/sycotic, psoric/syphilitic or tri-miasmic remedies etc.

For listing please see in Generalities under Psora, Sycosis and Syphilis.

You will need to cross reference them to see which remedies are listed under
two or all three headings (e.g. Lyc) for the tri-miasmatic remedies.

I would prescribe a 'miasmatic' remedy only if my best indicated remedy has
failed to do as expected [That is to say when the miasm in its true
definition has become an obstacle to cure.] and that I can see strong
indications of for example a syphilitic trait. For example when there is
ulceration and or haemorrhage. The remedy should still cover some of the
significant symptoms of the patient.
I would like to use the analogy of the Onion. We have different types of
onions and they taste and smell differently and their colour is different
also (a bit like our constitutional types - if Andrew would permit the use
of the word - effectively they are genetically different).

If an onion is kept under poor conditions it will start to issue shoots.

If the onion was to be cut perpendicular to the line joining the roots and
the shoot (I am trying to be precise here :o) ) then one would observe the
leaves of the onion in cross-section.

From the outside we have the peel, then we get to the rings. Further in we
would see a leaf that has gone brown and its texture has changed. This
appears rotten. Then there may be some more good rings and then another
brown leaf and so on depending on the size of the onion.

This, to me, gives a good representation of how we have some symptoms on the
surface of the case, then once these are removed we will eventually get to
the case of disturbance - unless we remove this brown rotten layer we cannot
get to the rest of the good leaves. Often it is the shoot at the top
(presenting symptom) that indicates that there is something going on inside.

Sometimes the onion is in such a state that even the outside skin and the
layers immediately below it have gone soft and brown. This is like a pt who
has presented with the symptoms of the miasm right on top - e.g. someone
requiring psorinum, or syphilinum or other strong miasmatic remedies such as
mercury or Sulphur etc. Remove these layers and underneath there may still
be some onion leaves that are reasonably healthy and usable.

Rgds
Soroush


Farbod Rahnama
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Farbod Rahnama »

Dear Soroush
The idea of using collection of antipsoric remedies as a rubric, is a good one. Let me add something:
If you look under PSORA in synthesis repetory you can find alot of remedy. For example ACON. or CANTH. or RHUS.T.
But according to Kent, Hahnemann and some other great homoeopaths these remedies has no power to cure chronic diseases.
So I think this rubric is not reliable.or under SYCOSIS you can find GELS. but according to kent GELS is not a good simillimum for diseases of chronic nature. I myself never use these symptoms to select antipsoric remedies.
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Farbod


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

If was in a way trying to demonstrate that remedies - a bit like any colour
light is made up of primary colours - are made up of their miasmatic basis.

In fact if you use a computer based repertory you will see how the strengths
of each miasm varies with the remedies.

There are some say that some remedies are just for acutes - like Bell.
Until you see a good chronic Bell case being cured.

Rgds
Soroush


Farbod Rahnama
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Farbod Rahnama »

Dear Soroush
First_According to Boeninghausen BELL. is an antipsoric remedy.
Second_ when we study HNM's works we never find words like:psorosycotic remedy or 3miasmic remedy. The theory of multimismatic remedy is a theory of unknown origin. On the other hand : HNM and Kent told us that disease picture of acon,gels, etc. is not similar with chronic disease.
If you think artificial disease of such remedies is similar with picture of chronic infectious diseases (chronic miasms), I would be pleased if you tell me how did you get such results.
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Farbod


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

My view is that there are a number of remedies that are famous for the Acute
properties. Well know as 'acute' remedies.
What I am saying is that if in a chronic case the set of presenting symptoms
match that of an 'acute' remedy, then it should be prescribed. Failing to
do so means you have become prejudiced!

Sadly I don't have a case in this regard to hand. But perhaps who have
treated a chronic Gels or Acon would step in.

Also just because Hn did not think of idea it does not mean that we should
not! (Otherwise Hom would have died with Hn!!)Take Nit-ac for example. It
is extremely psoric, syphilitic and sycotic - so we can easily say it is
tri-miasmatic. So it has applications in cases where the patient is
suffering from the active effects of all these miasms.

Also please remember that Hn was an experimenter and was always developing
his ideas. I think we should too.

Rgds


Farbod Rahnama
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Farbod Rahnama »

Dear Soroush
Homoeopathy is based on similia similibus currentur. We have to find simillimum disease to cure.we must find a remedy which can produce simillar disease in healthy person. I think you agree with me. But similarity should be noted in all grounds. Not only symptoms but pathogenesis. The direction of symptoms of diseases, the chronicity,etc. etc.
Pathogenesis of artificial disease caused by Aconitum. is not similar with pathogenesis of chronic miasms.So acon according to its pathogenesis is unhomoeopathic with psora. Ofcourse our patient may need acon. as an intercurrent remedy during the course of his treatment. But acon is not similar to psora, sycosis or syphilis. According to our materia medica and according to our knowledge of theses 3 miasma(infectious disease).

Nit_ac is a psoric remedy. Only psoric
Best
Farbod


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

I have no problem at all with what you say.

However, Nit-ac is one of the POWERFUL Syphilitic remedies. Pls just
compare it with the 'Syphilis' picture and Merc!

Rgds
Soroush


Allen Coniglio
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Allen Coniglio »

Soroush wrote - > Also just because Hn did not think of idea it does not
mean that we
should

I am surprised to see that many people do not seem to understand this most
basic of ideas. I look to Hahnemann for clarity, explanation and inspiration
but, never for the final word on the subject. How could he ever have the
final word? He has been dead for more than 150 years. Even when he was
alive, there were other brilliant minds working to understand homeopathy.
Any or all of these may have been more inspired in certain cases than
Hahnemann. The same is true today. All of us have minds and all of us are
capable of thinking thoughts - some of us are even desirous and WILLING to
think great thoughts. Why should we be afraid to question anyone? No one has
ever had the last answer, as the last answer is only good until the next
question. Aconite and other remedies used in acute situations are said by
some to belong to the Acute miasm. That is one way to understand those that
cannot be said to be psoric, sycotic or syphilitic.

Allen


Farbod Rahnama
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Farbod Rahnama »

Dear Allen
If you beleive in similarity law and if you beleive in using proven remedies then you should beleive in using a remedy for chronic diseases which is capable of producing a disease of same pathogenesis.
This one is our thought. According to our materia medica acon is not capable of producing a disease similar to chronic ones.
Hahnemann had thought of the idea and you can find his scientific methodology in "CHRONIC DISEASES".
BEST
Farbod


Ahmed N. Currim
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Re: Miasmatic Remedy

Post by Ahmed N. Currim »

Sheilagh considered Nit-ac a remedy of Psora, Sycosis, and also the
Syphilitic miasm and also the cancer miasm( Cancer of the rectum). So also
are many of our big remedies are multi-miasmatic remedies,showing facets of
these miasms in different patients.For example: I have seen Thuja clear up
warts(sycotic), eczema(psoric), asthama(psoro-sycotic), ulcers(syphilitic).
It seems that the concept of miasms is useful when a patient sheds off one
layer of his disease and brings forth another.You will find Kent's Lectures
on Hom Philosophy very useful: Lecture XVIII to Lecture XXI. Consult also
aphorisms in the Organon and The Chronic Diseases of Hn. Ahmed N. Currim.


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