Dear Ching,
Please clarify your question.
Best,
Ardavan
Chua Ching Yee wrote:
Re your 4th para: t's not clear to me - do you mean to say that if a person
does not follow either path, s/he suffers from ontological confusion,
whether or not s/he feels the existential angst?
Ching Yee
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Obstacles to Recovery / Cure
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Re: Obstacles to Recovery / Cure
Dear Ardavan
Most of the time, people just go through the daily grind (work, take care of
kids, grocery shopping etc) and don't worry about, or are too busy to think
about, personal growth or the purpose of their lives. Life just pulls them
along. Probably, at some point, all of us do think of these issues - usually
in our teens or at midlife (hence midlife crisis). But for the most part,
no.
So, if such a person does not follow an "organized system of belief
(religious, mystical)" or "feel the meaning of life [consciously] in a
peaceful path of individuation and personal growth", do you consider her/him
to be ontologically confused, even if s/he does not have any issues
regarding her/his existence?
C
on 18/6/04 4:10 am, Ardavan Shahrdar at ashahrdar@yahoo.com wrote:
Most of the time, people just go through the daily grind (work, take care of
kids, grocery shopping etc) and don't worry about, or are too busy to think
about, personal growth or the purpose of their lives. Life just pulls them
along. Probably, at some point, all of us do think of these issues - usually
in our teens or at midlife (hence midlife crisis). But for the most part,
no.
So, if such a person does not follow an "organized system of belief
(religious, mystical)" or "feel the meaning of life [consciously] in a
peaceful path of individuation and personal growth", do you consider her/him
to be ontologically confused, even if s/he does not have any issues
regarding her/his existence?
C
on 18/6/04 4:10 am, Ardavan Shahrdar at ashahrdar@yahoo.com wrote:
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Re: Obstacles to Recovery / Cure
Dear Ching,
I do not mean that a healthy person should constantly think about his/her existence. If he or she is feeling ok with the questions of existence, life and death or is not confused and is just living totally with his/her soul, heart and body,.. he/she is ok. Some people have never thought of their ontological position but they are in harmony with existence.
River flows with love and does not stop to see how it is flowing. But most of us sometimes flow, sometimes stop to decide whether to flow or not (!) and sometimes decide to flow in the opposite direction in an upward direction!!!
With all the best wishes,
Ardavan
Chua Ching Yee wrote:
Dear Ardavan
Most of the time, people just go through the daily grind (work, take care of
kids, grocery shopping etc) and don't worry about, or are too busy to think
about, personal growth or the purpose of their lives. Life just pulls them
along. Probably, at some point, all of us do think of these issues - usually
in our teens or at midlife (hence midlife crisis). But for the most part,
no.
So, if such a person does not follow an "organized system of belief
(religious, mystical)" or "feel the meaning of life [consciously] in a
peaceful path of individuation and personal growth", do you consider her/him
to be ontologically confused, even if s/he does not have any issues
regarding her/his existence?
C
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I do not mean that a healthy person should constantly think about his/her existence. If he or she is feeling ok with the questions of existence, life and death or is not confused and is just living totally with his/her soul, heart and body,.. he/she is ok. Some people have never thought of their ontological position but they are in harmony with existence.
River flows with love and does not stop to see how it is flowing. But most of us sometimes flow, sometimes stop to decide whether to flow or not (!) and sometimes decide to flow in the opposite direction in an upward direction!!!
With all the best wishes,
Ardavan
Chua Ching Yee wrote:
Dear Ardavan
Most of the time, people just go through the daily grind (work, take care of
kids, grocery shopping etc) and don't worry about, or are too busy to think
about, personal growth or the purpose of their lives. Life just pulls them
along. Probably, at some point, all of us do think of these issues - usually
in our teens or at midlife (hence midlife crisis). But for the most part,
no.
So, if such a person does not follow an "organized system of belief
(religious, mystical)" or "feel the meaning of life [consciously] in a
peaceful path of individuation and personal growth", do you consider her/him
to be ontologically confused, even if s/he does not have any issues
regarding her/his existence?
C
on 18/6/04 4:10 am, Ardavan Shahrdar at ashahrdar@yahoo.com wrote:
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Re: Obstacles to Recovery / Cure
Thanks for clarification. Would be interesting if you could give a brief
outline of a case where such a confusion was an obstacle to cure.
C
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outline of a case where such a confusion was an obstacle to cure.
C
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Dear Ching,
I always consider this point in my cases. I am not talking about a peculiar case. When there is an ontological confusion, the person subconsciously is trying to give meaning to his/her life with unsuccesful compensatory reactions instead of finding the real path of his/her soul. This pseudo-paths will always lead to disappointment which acts as a stressor and an obstacle to treatment.
Regards,
Ardavan
Chua Ching Yee wrote:
Thanks for clarification. Would be interesting if you could give a brief
outline of a case where such a confusion was an obstacle to cure.
C
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I always consider this point in my cases. I am not talking about a peculiar case. When there is an ontological confusion, the person subconsciously is trying to give meaning to his/her life with unsuccesful compensatory reactions instead of finding the real path of his/her soul. This pseudo-paths will always lead to disappointment which acts as a stressor and an obstacle to treatment.
Regards,
Ardavan
Chua Ching Yee wrote:
Thanks for clarification. Would be interesting if you could give a brief
outline of a case where such a confusion was an obstacle to cure.
C
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