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Paul Booyse
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LM aggravation - Long ? change subject to vital force ??

Post by Paul Booyse »

Hello Shannon,

You wrote:
Well maybe you patiemts do, but what I see is if you do nothing you take a
big risk. Usuaully the patient gets more sick, e.g first day not well, runny
nose, that night fever, next day sore throat and postnasal, then cough and
the phlegm has gone yellow (hey whats happening, we had a fever and now a
secondary infection has taken hold. Wasn't the vital force supposed to be
putting the patient on the road to health?) Then the infection spreads and
next we have double pneumonia. And complementary health gets a bad name
because we said "just let the patient rest and give fluids - the vital force
is going to do its thing".

overwhelmed

Thats exactly it. Either the stressor is too strong for a healthy person
(inimical to life), or the vital force is compromised (as in heat stroke) or
we are dealing with chronic disease,which is exactly what Hahnemann is
saying when people get ill. When someone gets a cold, if they don't have a
chronic disease (i.e. miasm) it would be "7 days with medicine or 1 week
without." (Probably shorter :-)

But in cases where the patient needs a remedy, we are dealing with
activation of psora, an acute manifestation of psora (that's Hahnemann
again). If the symptoms are mild, yes the patient may recover, but then
they also wouldn't need a remedy (Just some "chicken soup, bed rest etc
etc). Where symptoms are severe enough to warrant medication, you also find
the patient is sufferening from an acute manifestion of psora. The vital
force is placed in a arrangement which is injurious to the patient.
unintelligent

Usually means when the patient is in a healthy state. How does the vital
force reaction (as seen by the signs and symptoms) cure the patient in any
of the following conditions to name a few

1. Asthma
2. Rheumatoid Arthritis
3. Eczema
4. Otitis media
5. Fatigue
6. Hypertension
7. Epilepsy
8. Peptic ulceration
9. Hepatitis
10. Pick a condition from Merck Manual.

Look at signs and symptoms as an observation of the action of vital force
and then answer that question.

its
works

See above.

Perhaps you could define "most of the time". If you think about it,
statements
like this are based on an emotive support of the concept of the vital force
in an attempt to differentiate the viewpoint from the allopathic school.
There is, I have found great anxiety around questioning of the purpose and
function of the vital force. Read the organon again and you will see that,
like Vithoulkas, even if you still stand by your viewpoints, they are not
the same as Hahnemann.
food,

Firstly, if they get sick, then get well and then get sick again etc, as is
the case with many people, then they have only got over the acute
manifestation of there disease state. Surely you must have many patients
who "always get sick in cold weather, or wet weather or when stressed or
when they eat the wrong foods etc". That is the basis of aph 31, about
susceptibility. I only know of a few hardy people who can adapt to any
climate, any food, any stress or any relationship and not be affected to the
point of not being susceptible to illness. then again they might still be
heading for some serious chronic disease later in life. You have to look at
the bigger picture. Look at the esse of carcinosin, where the patient
migght never have been ill before (no childhood illnesses etc.) I have met
several patients with serious chronic disease, especially cancer who have
said " I can't understand it, I have never been ill in my life before."

Now if they have got over the acute state, you might observe over the years
that their overall state of health has detriorated. What was once a
recuuring cold every winter has now turned to serious bronciolitis and then
eventually to pneumonia every winter, or a change another manifestation of
the same disease state. Remember that in order to evaulate a progress of
the patients health and disease state, you have to see what the next illness
is that they get (Hering's law) When a child outgros eczema and later ends
up with asthma, the eczema eas never cured or eradicated by the vital force,
because it was never an eczema state, it was psoric state. Only the
manifestation changed.

unchecked.

I

Until you cross the street, and then you look.

the

Yes but now you are contradicting yourself. First you say:

"Usually fever performs exactly this role; usually a fever left untreated
will resolve in either recover or (very rarely, and usually only if other
factors complicate recovery) death "

and now

"Well, I suppose "lose" the thermometer is a bit extreme."

If you have faith in the vital force, then why would it go high enough to
kill the patient? Why does it lose its "intelligence". Only because in
disease it is already functioning in a non-healthy , diseased way. Disease
is not the same as distress. When you are affected by a stessor, you are
distressed and your vital force will react to accomodate (not repel) this
stessor. If you are cold the vital force will react in an OPPOSITE way, to
make you warm. (And the remedy works in a SIMILAR way)
When you are diseased, you are affected by stessors that should not normally
affect you. You become susceptible. Now you can't eat wheat, or can't
handle noise, or feel the heat etc.

Regards,
Paul


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