origin of Syphilis

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Further to comments recently made about the origins of this horrible
disease, in the grave yard of a church in Essex England, the bones of a
woman were dug up and dated to 1260 AD.

She had all the marks of syphilis on her bones.

This was pre Columbus of course.

I guess the disease was taken by the European sailors to the Americas!

Rgds
Soroush
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[Joy Lucas]

This makes for some interesting reading

http://www.archaeology.org/9701/newsbri ... hilis.html

best, Joy
on 12/4/04 10:38 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
Further to comments recently made about the origins of this horrible
disease, in the grave yard of a church in Essex England, the bones of a
woman were dug up and dated to 1260 AD.

She had all the marks of syphilis on her bones.

This was pre Columbus of course.

I guess the disease was taken by the European sailors to the Americas!

Rgds
Soroush
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Joy's article pre-dates the discovery in Essex!

Please also see:

http://www.rahul.net/starwolf/shm/monog ... _mon1.html

And

http://www.poxhistory.com/

But how this helps us with Homoeopathy is rather debatable.

Rgds
Soroush
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:30:56 +0100
From: Joy Lucas
Subject: Re: origin of Syphilis

This makes for some interesting reading

http://www.archaeology.org/9701/newsbri ... hilis.html

best, Joy
on 12/4/04 10:38 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
Further to comments recently made about the origins of this horrible
disease, in the grave yard of a church in Essex England, the bones of a
woman were dug up and dated to 1260 AD.

She had all the marks of syphilis on her bones.

This was pre Columbus of course.

I guess the disease was taken by the European sailors to the Americas!

Rgds
Soroush
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[J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN]

I wonder whether the research took note of the voluminous material
available in Indian medical texts-Ayurveda- about veneral disease.
Known as Megha or Madhu Megha , the treatment protocol is also very
detailed.

In one Tamil article -the date and other things not remembered- The
invasion of the southern Pandiya kingdom with their capital at
Madura, Tamilnadu, India by Kalappiras( their origins still unknown),
there was an outbreak of Veneral disease. This was at least 1000
years ago. But ayurvedic texts dating back thousands of years have
references about this.

I am posting a query in Ayurvedaonline for more details.
Regards
Venkat

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Finrod" wrote:

[Maria Bohle]

Actually the America's had Syphilis before Columbus, also.

The anthropologists found syphilitic leisons on some of the American
Indian long bones too.

So, there is no direct tie to Columbus and his crew transporting the
disease either way across the Atlantic.
But, I have no doubt that they did their part to help with the
transmission.

(If you have seen some of the latest Anthropological information it seems
trade across the Atlantic predates much recorded history. An egyptian
mummy was analyzed and they found cocain and tobacco in her preserved
tissues which sent the anthropological community into a tail spin, they
had previously thought cocain and tobacco to have been unknown in that
region by a couple of thousand years. If they traded botanicals, they
traded pathogens.)

It is one of 'my' theories that Lyme disease is a natural vaccination to
prevent syphilis transmission. Same family of critters, lyme disease
would have been transmitted early, in childhood where syphilis most
likely would be transmitted after puberty. Lyme is far less destructive
(only debilitating when someone is under a lot of stress) and it does not
cause tissue changes in itself.

Warmly, Maria
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:30:56 +0100
From: Joy Lucas
Subject: Re: origin of Syphilis
This makes for some interesting reading
http://www.archaeology.org/9701/newsbri ... hilis.html
best, Joy
on 12/4/04 10:38 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
Further to comments recently made about the origins of this horrible
disease, in the grave yard of a church in Essex England, the bones of a
woman were dug up and dated to 1260 AD.
She had all the marks of syphilis on her bones.
This was pre Columbus of course.
I guess the disease was taken by the European sailors to the Americas!
Rgds
Soroush

[David Little]

Hello,

The syphilis that rage through Europe was brought from the Americas but
there were endemic pockets of syphilis in Europe at different times. These
varieties of syphilis were never as epidemic as the variety that was
brought back to Europe from America. Europeans had no resistance to the new
imported version, which was extremely deadly at first. Over time the
symptoms mutated so that the disease was less deadly and there was more
resistance to its presents. Abuse of antibiotics in the 1950 and 1960s
masked the symptoms of syphilis a good percentage of the population. Most
those cases were not cured, only suppressed. Then syphilis started to be
passed without its characteristic primary symptoms, the chancre. It can now
go directly into more latent, insidious stages without any primary signs.
This makes it extremely hard to diagnosis. There is still a larger than
realized pool of congenital syphilis in the population and the inherited
miasmatic version is quite prevalent. This makes it all that more important
to understand the characteristic group symptoms of syphilis and the
remedies that are the most similar.

Sincerely, David Little
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[Dhiru M. P. Nathwani]

David Little wrote:

There is still a larger than
realized pool of congenital syphilis in the population and the inherited
miasmatic version is quite prevalent. This makes it all that more important
to understand the characteristic group symptoms of syphilis and the
remedies that are the most similar.

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Hello all,

Gerhard Koehler's "The Handbook of Homoeopathy" gives a synopsis of symptoms
and signs in a tabular form for Psora, Sycosis, Syphilis, and Tuberculinism.

I thought the list would like to have this information.

Dhiru