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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Prescribing by thought

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Nicholas Biggins had an article published in the Homoeopath a couple of
years back where - if my memory serves me correctly - he said that he had
been able to 'thought transfer' the remedies to his patients.

Could this be another example??

Soroush

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:19:12 EST
From: gracehealth4all@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: energetics of mothers milk

Hi Patricia,

I have been following this with interest. I would like to add another
dimension to the discussion, which somewhat goes along with something you
said.

This has happened to me twice in the past 6 months, and I wonder how people

would explain it. I have had 2 patients who have gone over their expected
date
for delivery; one by 12 days (to be induced on day 13) and another 3 days
late but waters broke (told to go in for induction). On both occasions, I
told
them on the phone that they needed Calc.Carb. and arranged for it to be
collected. On both occasions, patients or partners did not turn up. In both
cases, I
heard the following day that patient had gone into lablour 2 hours after
talking with me on the phone, and babies delivered normally at home.

Reagrds,

Grace
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Paul Booyse
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Paul Booyse »

FBI are still after him :-)


Patricia Hatherly
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Patricia Hatherly »

Dear Soroush

On this matter of "thought transfer" I had a little gem given to me
yesterday by a colleague who is also a vet.

He's recently done some sort of in-service on managing dairy herds
homoeopathically and shared that it is common practice to give all heifers a
dose of Lac-d as they enter the herd to settle them down and help them to be
good producers of milk.

It is thought that there is some sort of "understanding" of what fate awaits
them and the Rx helps to settle them. At the end of their productive life
all dairy cows are killed with a bullet to the forehead which gives a most
interesting understanding to the 2 rubrics in the head section of Lac-d;
namely:
headaches persistent for years and
headache begins in forehead and travels to the occiput

This is possibly an example of "thought transfer" which is part of the
collective unconscious of dairy cows. It either came out in the proving or
is a result of clinical observation (the first rubric is probably a result
of the latter). However that it "carried" in the milk is remarkable as it's
most likely that the milk for the proving was collected from a cow in the
middle of her productive life and not after her death.

regards
Patricia


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Patricia,

on 3/9/04 5:10 PM, Patricia Hatherly at triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:
???? "Common practice" *where*??? I suppose you mean common among dairy
herds that are managed homeopathically?
Beef animals are killed the same way, and quite likely other large meat
animals, as it is quick and humane. Is there a remedy made from beef (other
than pyrogen) and does it also have that symptom?

I think connections like this are neat as mnemonic devices, but personally
am *very* leery of assuming that's the "reason" that the symptom appears
there. Memory devices are wonderful, but we need to be cautious with
assumptions, IMO.

Shannon


Patricia Hatherly
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Patricia Hatherly »

Hi Shannon

Yes! It was an in-service for homoeopathic vets.
regards
Patricia


Julian Winston
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Julian Winston »

At 6:27 PM -0600 3/9/04, Bob&Shannon wrote:
[snip]
I have just received a book to review. It was written by a
quasi-quackbuster who comes to the conclusion that our remedies do
nothing-- and that ALL their effects are explainable through other
reasons.
The book is rife with quotes about this sort of things from many
homeopaths. The author scoured our literature pretty well and took
many quotes out of context, but... there they are. And it makes up
look like fools.

That Lac-d has those two symptoms is a simple statement of fact. It
was given to provers and that's what they reported.
Asking WHY it has those symptoms treads into the vast unknown. Do we
know the WHY for anything?
Lets go back to Para. 1 and avoid these speculative and theoretical
flights of fancy-- or as we call them in NZ, "mental wanking."

I'm reminded of something I heard Edward Whitmont say once. He asked
the question, "Why do dogs bark?" Depending on where you are coming
from there are many answers-- they bark to communicate, they bark to
warn of danger and frighten off others, they bark because their vocal
cords are constructed in such a way, etc. Lots of reasons. But, as
Whitmont said, "The reason dogs bark is that they are dogs!"

Take the provings as symptoms, and don't try to read anything into
them. THey are what they are.

JW


Alva Irish
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Alva Irish »

Isn't this like the Sulis remedies Julian?
Alva


Peter Quenter
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Post by Peter Quenter »

> ...which gives a most

fascinating fancyful Materia Medica, indeed -
yet, ... caution is appropriate - such theorizing about 'understanding' of
rubrics/symptoms can lead to immediate remedy-bias and missing of the proper
remedy -
with the 60 or so other remedies in that same rubric, and thus 60 or so
required other 'understandings' of that same rubric,
Lac d. becomes just one of many possibilities to study for a client who
says:
HEAD - PAIN - Forehead, in - extending to - Occiput
adam.;1; aids.;1; ars.;1; bapt.;1; bell.;3; bism.;1; bry.;2; bry.;2;
calc.;1; camph.;1; cann-s.;2; canth.;1; carb-ac.;1; cench.;1; cham.;2;
chel.;1; chinin-s.;1; chlol.;1; cimic.;3; cina;1; cina;1; cinnb.;1;
cinnb.;1; coc-c.;1; cocc.;1; cocc.;1; colch.;1; con.;1; cupr.;1;
cystein-l.;1; dios.;1; diosm.;1; eup-per.;1; form.;2; kali-bi.;2; kali-n.;1;
kali-p.;1; kalm.;1; kola;1; kreos.;1; lac-d.;2; lil-t.;2; lycps-v.;1;
merc-i-r.;1; mucs-nas.;1; naja;1; nat-c.;1; nat-m.;1; nux-v.;2; par.;1;
phos.;1; phys.;1; pic-ac.;1; plat.;1; prun.;3; psil.;1; sabad.;1; sabin.;1;
sep.;2; sulph.;1; symph.;1; ther.;1; thuj.;3; zing.;1;

best
peter q


Peter Quenter
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Peter Quenter »

> ...which gives a most

fascinating fanciful Materia Medica, indeed -
yet, ... caution is appropriate - such theorizing about 'understanding' of
rubrics/symptoms can lead to immediate remedy-bias and missing of the proper
remedy -
with the 60 or so other remedies in that same rubric, and thus 60 or so
required other 'understandings' of that same rubric,
Lac d. becomes just one of many possibilities to study for a client who
says:
HEAD - PAIN - Forehead, in - extending to - Occiput
adam.;1; aids.;1; ars.;1; bapt.;1; bell.;3; bism.;1; bry.;2; bry.;2;
calc.;1; camph.;1; cann-s.;2; canth.;1; carb-ac.;1; cench.;1; cham.;2;
chel.;1; chinin-s.;1; chlol.;1; cimic.;3; cina;1; cina;1; cinnb.;1;
cinnb.;1; coc-c.;1; cocc.;1; cocc.;1; colch.;1; con.;1; cupr.;1;
cystein-l.;1; dios.;1; diosm.;1; eup-per.;1; form.;2; kali-bi.;2; kali-n.;1;
kali-p.;1; kalm.;1; kola;1; kreos.;1; lac-d.;2; lil-t.;2; lycps-v.;1;
merc-i-r.;1; mucs-nas.;1; naja;1; nat-c.;1; nat-m.;1; nux-v.;2; par.;1;
phos.;1; phys.;1; pic-ac.;1; plat.;1; prun.;3; psil.;1; sabad.;1; sabin.;1;
sep.;2; sulph.;1; symph.;1; ther.;1; thuj.;3; zing.;1;

best
peter q


Julian Winston
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Re: Prescribing by thought

Post by Julian Winston »

At 10:49 PM -0500 3/9/04, Alva Irish wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what are the Sulis rxs?

JW
(who spends most of his time living before 1960)


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