Centripetal and centrifugal actions

[Feras Hakkak]

Hello,
I read in a book that some remedies have centripetal action and some have centrifugal actions. There was written that one of these (I can't remember which one) is according to Herring's Laws and the other is in contrast to it. I cannot understand it at all !
Thanks for replies,
Feras
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[andyh]

Feras Hakkak wrote:
Dear Feras,
Maybe this has been answered already, but centrifugal means "away from center" and centripetal "towards center". Thus by Hering, centrifugal would be the appropriate direction for throwing off of complaints, centripetal for suppression of them. As shown below, there is some confusion about "centrifugal force" which is a misnomer in the case of a whirling object on a tether (the force exerted by the tether is a centripetal force to keep the object from flying away from center). This misnomer causes people who have studied physics to confuse the two terms.

However, the central aspect of your question, I surmise, is how a remedy which should be acting curatively could ever be acting centripetally. This is a mystery to me also. Whether it has to do with the authors confusion of the terms due to the aforementioned misnomer, or whether the authors were referring to a curative case vs a noncurative case, or some other explanation, I cannot tell you.

Best to you,
Andy
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Centripetal - This means simply "towards the centre." Most commonly it is encountered in mechanics. A centripetal force is the force
attracting an object to the centre during circular motion. The opposite to centripetal is centrifugal.

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Centrifugal force
The apparent force which seems to pull an object outward when the object is spun around in a
circle.

In reality, it is the centripetal force which keeps the object rotating around in the circle when the object's inertia
makes the object inclined to move in a straight tangential line away from the circle.

The centrifugal force does not really exist and, in a strictly physical sense, the term is a misnomer. However,
the term is useful to biologists and chemists who are using centrifuges.

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Centrifugal
CENTRIFUGAL: Dictionary Entry and Meaning

Pronunciation:

sen'trifyugul

Matching Terms:

Centrifugal filter, centrifugal force, centrifugal pump, centrifugate, centrifugation

WordNet Dictionary
Definition:

1.[adj] tending to move away from a center; "centrifugal force"
2.[adj] conveying information to the muscles from the CNS; "motor nerves"
3.[adj] tending away from centralization, as of authority; "the division of Europe into warring blocs produces ever-increasing
centrifugal stress"
Synonyms:

decentralising(a), decentralizing(a), efferent, motor(a), motorial, outward-developing, outward-moving
Antonyms:

centripetal
Webster's 1913 Dictionary
Definition:

1.\Cen*trif"u*gal\, a. [L. centrum center + fugere to
flee.]
1. Tending, or causing, to recede from the center.

2. (Bot.)
(a) Expanding first at the summit, and later at the base,
as a flower cluster.
(b) Having the radicle turned toward the sides of the
fruit, as some embryos.

{Centrifugal force} (Mech.), a force whose direction is from
a center.

Note: When a body moves in a circle with uniform velocity, a
force must act on the body to keep it in the circle
without change of velocity. The direction of this force
is towards the center of the circle. If this force is
applied by means of a string to the body, the string
will be in a state of tension. To a person holding the
other end of the string, this tension will appear to be
directed toward the body as if the body had a tendency
to move away from the center of the circle which it is
describing. Hence this latter force is often called
centrifugal force. The force which really acts on the
body being directed towards the center of the circle is
called centripetal force, and in some popular treatises
the centripetal and centrifugal forces are described as
opposing and balancing each other. But they are merely
the different aspects of the same stress. --Clerk
Maxwell.

{Centrifugal impression} (Physiol.), an impression (motor)
sent from a nerve center outwards to a muscle or muscles
by which motion is produced.

{Centrifugal machine}, A machine for expelling water or other
fluids from moist substances, or for separating liquids of
different densities by centrifugal action; a whirling
table.

{Centrifugal pump}, a machine in which water or other fluid
is lifted and discharged through a pipe by the energy
imparted by a wheel or blades revolving in a fixed case.
Some of the largest and most powerful pumps are of this
kind.
2.\Cen*trif"u*gal\, n.
A centrifugal machine.

[Farbod Rahnamai]

Dear Feras, Andy
I had a case which may match the idea of curative centripetal act and incurative centrifugal act.
Male 25, suffer from severe pain in heels since 4 months ago. The pain was so severe that he could not walk easily and he had to tiptoe. The orthodox medicine diagnosis was soft tissue inflammation of heels. Another aspect in his case was a Gonorrhea of 6 months ago. He has got antibiotics for his Gonorrhea at that time by an urologist, and he had been cured!
If we want to evaluate the action of antibiotic according to Hering law, the original problem was in Genito-urinary organ which is a central organ. After the treatment with antibiotics the pathology disappeared in genital organ (central) and appeared in heel's soft tissue(peripheral organ). It means the action is CENTRIFUGAL. The direction is also downward. But the treatment is not curative.
Because in case of Gonorrhea, if the patient receives no medicine, they will have such soft tissue inflammations. Thus the antibiotic had done nothing to disease of the patient but disappearing a symptom on genital organ.
Then (after 6 months of the original gonorrhea) he received thuj according to his symptoms, the heel pain recovered and he experience a short lasting burning in urethra. Here the action of thuj was CENTRIPETAL but curative.
I hope it would help.
Farbod

[Feras Hakkak]

Dear Farbod and Andy,
We know that Herring's laws are four and we have to combine them to conclude about the direction of cure, whether correct or not. One of these four laws is that the problem goes from center to periphery. But many times it is difficult to judge about the direction of cure because according to one or two of Herring's laws it is cure and according to the other ones it is suppression. Dr Praful Vijayakar from Bombay has proposed a theory on which he clearly states that either we are doing suppresion or cure. For example we read in http://www.predictivehomeopathy.com/home/main9.htm that:

"Q1 - A patient complaining of pain in abdomen due to acidity is treated homoeopathically. The pain in abdomen disappears and tingling numbness in hands starts-It is good or bad? How did the disease progress from centre to periphery or inside out?
Ans:- Disease has travelled from abdomen (endoderm) to Sixth Level of Nervous system-Bad."
"Q2- Pain in abdomen disappears and ankle joints starts paining, good or bad? Whether this is inside out; up-downwards or more important organ stomach to less important extremities?

Ans:- The disease has shifted from endoderm i.e. 2nd level to mesodermal connective tissue 3rd level-Bad."

Here Dr Vijayakar has used his theory of seven layers of suppression to clarify the Herring's laws. The chart is found at http://www.predictivehomeopathy.com/hom ... middle.htm. Also he has written a book about this theory.

I think in the light of this theory, we can understand that Herring's laws are always true but sometimes the action of the remedy may be centripetal of centrifugal, depending on the situation. This is a guess, and I think knowing the history of such terms (centripetal and centrifugal actions) can help us understand what is happening. Maybe Julian can help us as always.

Best,

Feras
Farbod Rahnamai wrote:
Dear Feras, Andy
I had a case which may match the idea of curative centripetal act and incurative centrifugal act.
Male 25, suffer from severe pain in heels since 4 months ago. The pain was so severe that he could not walk easily and he had to tiptoe. The orthodox medicine diagnosis was soft tissue inflammation of heels. Another aspect in his case was a Gonorrhea of 6 months ago. He has got antibiotics for his Gonorrhea at that time by an urologist, and he had been cured!
If we want to evaluate the action of antibiotic according to Hering law, the original problem was in Genito-urinary organ which is a central organ. After the treatment with antibiotics the pathology disappeared in genital organ (central) and appeared in heel's soft tissue(peripheral organ). It means the action is CENTRIFUGAL. The direction is also downward. But the treatment is not curative.
Because in case of Gonorrhea, if the patient receives no medicine, they will have such soft tissue inflammations. Thus the antibiotic had done nothing to disease of the patient but disappearing a symptom on genital organ.
Then (after 6 months of the original gonorrhea) he received thuj according to his symptoms, the heel pain recovered and he experience a short lasting burning in urethra. Here the action of thuj was CENTRIPETAL but curative.
I hope it would help.
Farbod

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[J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN]

Dear Feras and all,
If I understand homeopathy , I can say this:- the remedy , if
homeopathic to the case, has an action that is inside out.
This you can call centrifugal. This very term has been used romantically by
boericke in his MM on Sulphur. But every remedy is Centrigugal provided THE
REMEDY IS HOMEOPATHIC TO THE CASE.
Hering's law in layman's terms
1. Disease always tends to externalize thru signs and symptoms ( human
tendency is always to suppress. This is mine)
2..Disease progresses from least important to more important
rgans( centripetal or outside in)
3. Cure travels from more important to less important organs( centrifugal or
inside out)
4. Cure also travels from the more insiduous miasm to the lesser( this is
added by Dr Vijaykar, using the analogy from the
above clauses.
The periphery or the least important organ in the hierarchy is the skin. The
most important, the centre is the mind.
( Dr Sehgal, used this to explain just why he treated the PPP: treating the
centre.)

As an engineer, I have this small piece on centrifugal .
A domestic rotating impeller type pump sucks water thru the center or the
eye of the pump and discharges thru the
periphery. Here water is sucked by a partial vacuum created by the
centrifugal force of the impeller. Boericke apparently used the direction
of water flow centre to out as centrifugal. But taking the flow of the
force, centrifulal is outside in and inside out is centrpetal.
Regards
Venkat

[andyh]

Farbod Rahnamai wrote:
Dear Farbod,
Thank you for that case. A couple of ideas:

---that the "up-down" idea of Hering's may not be as strict as considered. Perhaps in individual cases, the easiest way for the vital force to deal with a suppression is to express symptoms through a meridianal flow (?) which could take it in a downward direction, usually not indicative of suppression. But this, if true, would still be surprising. If there are other similar cases it would be interesting.

---that although the heel pain was in soft tissue, is it possible that it was in an embryological layer which is more internal (Vijakar (sp?) ideas which I have not studied-perhaps others can comment).

Best,
Andy
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