[H] UK: Wrong diagnoses are killing patients

[Nancy Siciliana]

Hmm. I always thought it was sycotic: the sudden, unforseen heart attack,
when the patient is in his/her early 40's?

[Farbod Rahnamai]

Sudden is not a symptom or a syndrom. It may be because of many various conditions and it may originate from so many various DYNAMIS. It could be psoric also.

Regards
Farbod

[Farbod Rahnamai]

Sudden death is not a symptom or a syndrom. It may be because of many various conditions and it may originate from so many various DYNAMIS. It could be psoric also.

Farbod
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[Shannon Nelson]

But we do have the rubric GENERALITIES; SUDDEN manifestations: Acon., am-c.,
ambr., androc., apis, ars., bar-c., Bell., berb., buni-o., cact., camph.,
canth., carb-ac., choc., cimic., coloc., con., croc., crot-h., cupr., dios.,
eup-per., eup-pur., form., glon., hydr-ac., hydrog., ictod., ign., kali-bi.,
lyc., mag-acet., mag-c., mag-p., mez., musa, nat-s., nit-ac., ox-ac., oxyt.,
petr., phos., plb., podo., rad-br., ran-b., spig., stann., stry., sul-ac.,
tab., tarent., tarent-c., thuj., tub., tung., valer., verat., vip.

It (suddenness) is characterist of some remedies and would dictate against
others. Tho not a symptom or syndrome, it *is* a quality...

I *thought* the thing about syphillitic miasm was that it could break out
with deadly intensity and no warning. While psora could (I'm willing to
believe) have "suddenness", I don't believe it would usually cover "*deadly*
suddenness", would it? I thought psora is more about suffering and less
about actual pathology. And sycosis, I don't know, I didn't have any direct
impressions re sycosis and either suddenness or deadliness -- But it's quite
possible I've misremembered. Sigh, maybe when the weekend is over and more
are back on line, someone will be able to help us out!

Shannon
on 2/21/04 12:32 PM, Farbod Rahnamai at frahnama@privatemail.me.uk wrote:

[Joy Lucas]

Dear Shannon, my own thoughts are that the psoric amongst us would want to
reply straight away to this but would also sideline the issues somewhat,
incorporating all sorts of peripheral subject matters - the sycotic would
take ages to reply, wanting to acquire and digest all the possibly issues,
but the syphylitic would not only be instantaneous but thoroughly to the
point leaving no space for questioning or argument.

best wishes, Joy (probably mixed miasm just to confuse )

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on 2/21/04 9:30 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

But we do have the rubric GENERALITIES; SUDDEN manifestations: Acon., am-c.,
ambr., androc., apis, ars., bar-c., Bell., berb., buni-o., cact., camph.,
canth., carb-ac., choc., cimic., coloc., con., croc., crot-h., cupr., dios.,
eup-per., eup-pur., form., glon., hydr-ac., hydrog., ictod., ign., kali-bi.,
lyc., mag-acet., mag-c., mag-p., mez., musa, nat-s., nit-ac., ox-ac., oxyt.,
petr., phos., plb., podo., rad-br., ran-b., spig., stann., stry., sul-ac.,
tab., tarent., tarent-c., thuj., tub., tung., valer., verat., vip.

It (suddenness) is characterist of some remedies and would dictate against
others. Tho not a symptom or syndrome, it *is* a quality...

I *thought* the thing about syphillitic miasm was that it could break out
with deadly intensity and no warning. While psora could (I'm willing to
believe) have "suddenness", I don't believe it would usually cover "*deadly*
suddenness", would it? I thought psora is more about suffering and less
about actual pathology. And sycosis, I don't know, I didn't have any direct
impressions re sycosis and either suddenness or deadliness -- But it's quite
possible I've misremembered. Sigh, maybe when the weekend is over and more
are back on line, someone will be able to help us out!

Shannon
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[Farbod Rahnamai]

Dear Shannon
I agree. Suddenness is a quality which should be considered. But we can not diagnose a Miasm only by one symptom or quality. On the other hand Psora is capable to produce such sudden events, it is more dangerouse than sycosis or syphilis. Here is some psoric case which have sudden manifestations. These are cases which Hahnemann cited in his Chronic Disease:

(12 The dyspnoea from the driven out itch came on very suddenly, and the patient was suffocated.)
(34 A boy of 7 weeks and a youth of 18 years died very suddenly from an itch driven out through a sulphur ointment. At the autopsy in the case of the infant the upper part of the stomach immediately below the orifice was found destroyed by gangrene, and in the second case that part of the duodenum into which the biliary duct and the pancreatic duct empty was found similarly diseased. A similar fatal inflammation of the stomach from driven out itch, in Morgagni, as above, LV., art. II.)
(69 A young merchant had driven off the itch with ointment, when he was suddenly seized with such hoarseness that he could not speak a loud word; then followed dry asthma, loathing of food, severe cough, troublesome especially at night and robbing him of sleep, violent ill-smelling night-sweats, and, despite of all medical treatment, death.)
Attacks of paralytic weakness and paralytic lassitude of the one arm, the one hand, the one leg, without pain, either arising suddenly and passing quickly, or commencing gradually and constantly increasing.
To diagnose a miasm we should have a picture, as in our individual case , we can not diagnose a miasm by a location or mere sensation.
Regards

Farbod

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Farbod,
That does indeed eliminate my concept of psora as "functional only"! Ah
well...
Cheers,
Shannon

on 2/22/04 10:47 PM, Farbod Rahnamai at frahnama@privatemail.me.uk wrote: