Hypertension - Combination Therapy
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Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti
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Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti
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Re: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Inclined to reply.........especially as I have a free hour.... 
Agreed...........
The one minded opinion response was made for Soroush's behaviour and
thinking. It was not made towards Classical Homeopathy.
I thought I'd better clear that one up in case everyone thinks I made a
remark like that.
How could I do such a thing anyways?
I use whatever is best in obtaining lasting results for my patients.
They are my main concern. They are the ones I pray for so that they may
find relief and they are what makes Homeopathy come to life for me.
Without my patients I have nothing but remedies and dilutions on the
shelves of my pharmacy........
I am not a teacher, nor do I wish to be.
I am sure you all find that my responses are only to certain items on
the mailing group that catch my eye or are something I have experience
with.
Over the past month I've learnt a lot from the other members reference
some of the problems faced.
So.....................it's all about improvement and trying to excel in
what you love.
For all of us on this list our love is Homeopathy. Not a love of
remedies perhaps, but a love of how miraculous the results can be and
how effective and lasting they truly are.
The smile of the patient who has been relieved of his or her symptoms
makes the whole thing worthwhile.
I am perhaps not as experienced as Soroush or other senior members on
this list. However, I do know that I have seen patients suffering from
Cancer and AIDS, Infertility, Pneumonia, Kidney Failure, Depression and
Suicide all come to life and complete restoration of health through
complex homeopathic combinations.
So my case rests with me.............its my own personal
experience.........but there's no harm in sharing is there?
Sharing does not mean that whoever states using such and such is
boasting. If that were the case then the list may as well be stopped as
we can all be accused of that.........
Anyhows, must go. I haven't finished but a patient beckons.
Atiq
Agreed...........
The one minded opinion response was made for Soroush's behaviour and
thinking. It was not made towards Classical Homeopathy.
I thought I'd better clear that one up in case everyone thinks I made a
remark like that.
How could I do such a thing anyways?
I use whatever is best in obtaining lasting results for my patients.
They are my main concern. They are the ones I pray for so that they may
find relief and they are what makes Homeopathy come to life for me.
Without my patients I have nothing but remedies and dilutions on the
shelves of my pharmacy........
I am not a teacher, nor do I wish to be.
I am sure you all find that my responses are only to certain items on
the mailing group that catch my eye or are something I have experience
with.
Over the past month I've learnt a lot from the other members reference
some of the problems faced.
So.....................it's all about improvement and trying to excel in
what you love.
For all of us on this list our love is Homeopathy. Not a love of
remedies perhaps, but a love of how miraculous the results can be and
how effective and lasting they truly are.
The smile of the patient who has been relieved of his or her symptoms
makes the whole thing worthwhile.
I am perhaps not as experienced as Soroush or other senior members on
this list. However, I do know that I have seen patients suffering from
Cancer and AIDS, Infertility, Pneumonia, Kidney Failure, Depression and
Suicide all come to life and complete restoration of health through
complex homeopathic combinations.
So my case rests with me.............its my own personal
experience.........but there's no harm in sharing is there?
Sharing does not mean that whoever states using such and such is
boasting. If that were the case then the list may as well be stopped as
we can all be accused of that.........
Anyhows, must go. I haven't finished but a patient beckons.
Atiq
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Dear Eleana and other colleagues
I have no intension ever to operate as 'Thought Police" which I believe was
the implication of your post.
I am all for trying something new, but every trial needs to have a thought
process behind it.
There must be necessity and some logical reason why we should experiment.
I believe that Hn was a master experimenter - the results of his experiments
and experiences are reflected in the Organon.
If as Julian has clearly identified the Master's instructions against combo
prescription, before I commence on this same route, I must have a good
logical and practical reason to try and re-invent the wheel.
Firstly - there is no logical reason for the prescription of Combos. The
Similimum by definition is ONE REMEDY.
Secondly, so far as 'thought police' is concerned, you just wait until some
poor person thinks Atiq's idea is clever and actually advises it to a
patient who eventually then dies.
[Please do not under estimate the potential dangers of high blood pressure.
There is a reason why it is called the silent killer.]
The patient's relatives then discover that this was quite unconventional and
sue.
In the court the prosecuting attorney then sites Aph 274 to show that the
advice given to the patient was completely against the Founder's
instructions.
What would be the defence of someone like Atiq or any one who has followed
his suggestion?
What would the verdict do for the promotion of Homoeopathy?
Thirdly, Minutus is a site for Hahnemannian homoeopathy.
Those who are interested in other forms of practise using remedies produced
according to Hahnemann's instructions but then completely disregard his
instructions regarding their use, can voice their opinions elsewhere.
Good healing
Soroush
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:32:32 +0000
From: "Eleana Needham"
Subject: Re: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Tanya
I would like to join you in this by saying I totally agree with what you
said - we all have ideas and premises which are very dear to us and are
shared to a larger or smaller degree by other people. This does not mean we
can become thought police and try to impose those dearly held beliefs on
others. After all, homoeopathy is the science of the individual - in its
many guises and forms. Let us agree to disagree on certain issues and
benefit from the co-operation and free spirit within the context of this
list.
Best
Eleana
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I have no intension ever to operate as 'Thought Police" which I believe was
the implication of your post.
I am all for trying something new, but every trial needs to have a thought
process behind it.
There must be necessity and some logical reason why we should experiment.
I believe that Hn was a master experimenter - the results of his experiments
and experiences are reflected in the Organon.
If as Julian has clearly identified the Master's instructions against combo
prescription, before I commence on this same route, I must have a good
logical and practical reason to try and re-invent the wheel.
Firstly - there is no logical reason for the prescription of Combos. The
Similimum by definition is ONE REMEDY.
Secondly, so far as 'thought police' is concerned, you just wait until some
poor person thinks Atiq's idea is clever and actually advises it to a
patient who eventually then dies.
[Please do not under estimate the potential dangers of high blood pressure.
There is a reason why it is called the silent killer.]
The patient's relatives then discover that this was quite unconventional and
sue.
In the court the prosecuting attorney then sites Aph 274 to show that the
advice given to the patient was completely against the Founder's
instructions.
What would be the defence of someone like Atiq or any one who has followed
his suggestion?
What would the verdict do for the promotion of Homoeopathy?
Thirdly, Minutus is a site for Hahnemannian homoeopathy.
Those who are interested in other forms of practise using remedies produced
according to Hahnemann's instructions but then completely disregard his
instructions regarding their use, can voice their opinions elsewhere.
Good healing
Soroush
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:32:32 +0000
From: "Eleana Needham"
Subject: Re: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Tanya
I would like to join you in this by saying I totally agree with what you
said - we all have ideas and premises which are very dear to us and are
shared to a larger or smaller degree by other people. This does not mean we
can become thought police and try to impose those dearly held beliefs on
others. After all, homoeopathy is the science of the individual - in its
many guises and forms. Let us agree to disagree on certain issues and
benefit from the co-operation and free spirit within the context of this
list.
Best
Eleana
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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- Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:00 pm
Re: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Atiq
I think you will do well by answering the other mails in this regard esp aph
274.
Also in my response to Eleana I have discussed a scenario when a patient who
has followed your combo therapy has died and the case goes to court and you
then have to defend why you went against the instructions in Aph 274 of the
Organon.
Before someone dies, please try and defend your prescription here.
We will give you a fair trial I am sure.
And finally as one of the very early members of Minutus, till I have the
power of my faculties I will try and promote good homoeopathy.
I guess that may depress you even more. But then TOUGH!
Soroush.
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:48:56 -0000
From: "Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti"
Subject: RE: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Soroush,
Wow.............you're still around............I don't know if I'm happy
or depressed!!!
Let the fun begin.........
Anyhows, I think the reference to my mother is a little personal my
friend. But then, it seems you are very A B C in your approach with no
compreshension of broadening your spectrum if it means helping others to
find relief from their ailments.
But, until I am struck of the register, I will continue to provide
information and comments as freely as I please.
I do appreciate your feedback though.
For the open minded it provides them with two options rather than just a
one sided and many a time, one minded opinion.
I stated to read up on three remedies and if the person is happy then to
use them happily. It works..............it works it works.......
You have a strange loyalty to black text on paper.......
Sometimes I wonder whether you have ever been out into the wider
world..................you need a lot more experience in your
life..........perhaps you should visit homeopathic camps in remote parts
of India and Pakistan, Gambia, Zimbabwe.......I think you may fascinated
with what you see.
Please feel free to reply to my emails, but try to be a little more
mature in your approach so that you don't get too personal in your
emails.
Look forward to many many more closed minded replies........
Atiq
I think you will do well by answering the other mails in this regard esp aph
274.
Also in my response to Eleana I have discussed a scenario when a patient who
has followed your combo therapy has died and the case goes to court and you
then have to defend why you went against the instructions in Aph 274 of the
Organon.
Before someone dies, please try and defend your prescription here.
We will give you a fair trial I am sure.
And finally as one of the very early members of Minutus, till I have the
power of my faculties I will try and promote good homoeopathy.
I guess that may depress you even more. But then TOUGH!
Soroush.
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:48:56 -0000
From: "Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti"
Subject: RE: Hypertension - Combination Therapy
Soroush,
Wow.............you're still around............I don't know if I'm happy
or depressed!!!
Let the fun begin.........
Anyhows, I think the reference to my mother is a little personal my
friend. But then, it seems you are very A B C in your approach with no
compreshension of broadening your spectrum if it means helping others to
find relief from their ailments.
But, until I am struck of the register, I will continue to provide
information and comments as freely as I please.
I do appreciate your feedback though.
For the open minded it provides them with two options rather than just a
one sided and many a time, one minded opinion.
I stated to read up on three remedies and if the person is happy then to
use them happily. It works..............it works it works.......
You have a strange loyalty to black text on paper.......
Sometimes I wonder whether you have ever been out into the wider
world..................you need a lot more experience in your
life..........perhaps you should visit homeopathic camps in remote parts
of India and Pakistan, Gambia, Zimbabwe.......I think you may fascinated
with what you see.
Please feel free to reply to my emails, but try to be a little more
mature in your approach so that you don't get too personal in your
emails.
Look forward to many many more closed minded replies........
Atiq