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Sheri Nakken
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QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

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QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

I have not yet treated anyone with insulin-dependent diabetes
Has anyone and what results have you seen. Just had a diabetic ask me.

I assume maybe being able to lower the dosage of insulin and prevent
complications or work with those complications more easily.
We can't really go into a parallel universe to see what would happen if
weren't treated homeopathically, so we can't say for sure we prevented the
complications and also this happens over a longer period of time and maybe
no one has had patients long enough to see that kind of thing. But
generally what have you seen as treatment progresses?

I have not read any cases on this either. Must do a search in EH and
elsewhere

thanks
Sheri
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Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti »

Diabetes is curable in Homeopathy.

The first stage is always control of sugar levels. The second stage is
more delicate and essentially consists of monitoring the control the
Homeopathic remedies have on controlling the sugar. The third stage is
slowly but surely reducing the amount of insulin taken daily. The fourth
stage is the stage of cure.

It takes 12 to 18 months to cure diabetes.

Or you can try Lac Defloratum in CM potency as a single dose.

You will/may find that it cures the problems immediately.
But...............it is 50/50. i.e. it works in 50% of diabetics. The
only way to measure is to actually give the prescription.
Atiq


dihuang2
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by dihuang2 »

: Case Synopsis of Diabetes, Hep. C, & Necrosis of Liver

by isali ben-jacob, D.O.M., N.B.H.E.
The patient is a 46 year old female, paramedic, Dx in '98 with Hep C of a chronic nature; necrosis of the Liver; and Diabetic (insulin dependent). Her Tx protocol has been Interferon with the addition of Rebitron, Zanax, Prozac, and Insulin. She had a hysterectomy in '98.

She ran away from home at age 15, her father was a fighter pilot, abusive and alcoholic. The mother is separated. Pt. states her husband is imposing and officious and that her children are very supportive.

She has presented herself with a clinical picture of pain in the Lv region; profound fatigue; insomnia; blurred vision; constipation; bowels which are odorous and with mucous; melancholy; headaches of a frontal nature; dizziness and unstable; tremors; abdominal bloating; deficient appetite; an absence of sense of smell; low grade intermittent fever; pallor; explosive disposition to conflict; craves sweets; periodic sore throat; chest oppression; frequent urination; nite sweats; pain in joints systemically; a maroonish tongue and slippery weak pulse.

Her blood/sugar varied from 255 to 75 and attends to it with 3 to 5 inj. per day of 3 to 5 units per inj.

I have a collection of diagnostic tests regarding her history of viral load, Lipid studies, Hemoglobin, auto chem pnl, comprehensive metabolic panel, etc.....

My diagnosis is of dampness in the Lv/Gb and stagnation of Lv blood and Lv overacting on the Sp/S resulting in a disrupted transformation and transportation function of the digestive system.

The treatment intention was to clear the stagnation, promote the enzymatic function of the Lv; clear the dampness of the Lv/Gb; tonify the organs and bowels; and tonify the pancreatic system. The protocol was acupuncture involving meridian treatment and extraordinary vessel treatment with tuina (massage); herbal formulas; homeopathics, both single remedies and compositions of varied potencies.

The patient maintained weekly office visits from September to the end of January whereupon she became asymptomatic, stopped all pharmaceutical medications; follows internal medicines of herbal and homeopathic prn.
The patient was urged to maintain her healthcare relations with her medical doctor, which she did; this office forwarded unsolicited communication to that office regarding patients progress; the response by the primary to the patient was to assert that oriental medicine was good for pain only, that homeopathy is quackery, that she is wasting her money, that he would suggest massage, that her improvement is due to her estoppel of pharmaceuticals.

The patient’s blood/sugar would fluctuate between 160 and 108 and became stable at 130. Her clinical presentation was asymptomatic in all respects and her attitude was a manifested hopefulness. Furthermore the patient’s husband recognised that they were able to maintain a dialogue.

The specific remedies applied during the course of treatment were:

Acupuncture: Extraordinary Vessel Treatment, somatic and nonsomatic; ZangFu organ therapy; and Ashi points.

Herbal: Shi Chuan Da Bu Wan; Jia Wei Chai Hu Shu Gan Wan; Ma Zi Ren Wan; Jia Wei Si Jun Zi Tang; Jia WeiYu Ping Feng San.

Homeopathic: Belladonna LM, & 1M; Pancreatonic Composition(www.dosha.us); and a composition of Carduus Marianus 2X, Zingbre 2X; Lep 3X, Berberis4X, Cheld.4X; Mag. Mur4X; Nat. Mur.5X; Lv 6X; Nat.-S6X; Atrop S 6X; Bry 6X; Lyc12X.

Hope this helps your thinking
Sheri Nakken wrote:QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

I have not yet treated anyone with insulin-dependent diabetes
Has anyone and what results have you seen. Just had a diabetic ask me.

I assume maybe being able to lower the dosage of insulin and prevent
complications or work with those complications more easily.
We can't really go into a parallel universe to see what would happen if
weren't treated homeopathically, so we can't say for sure we prevented the
complications and also this happens over a longer period of time and maybe
no one has had patients long enough to see that kind of thing. But
generally what have you seen as treatment progresses?

I have not read any cases on this either. Must do a search in EH and
elsewhere

thanks
Sheri
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Hennie Duits
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Hennie Duits »

Frequently there are good things to do for Ph-ac, somewhere along the line
of treatment.
Do not overlook possibilities for Tub.
Expect: general improvement, have insulin levels checked frequently
(problably is being done already).

Hennie


Sheri Nakken
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Sheri Nakken »

At 10:23 PM 02/04/2004 +0100, you wrote:

I'm actually asking for people's experience and what you have seen in real
life with patients that you may have had with diabetes.
I'm not looking for remedies, but experiences ;-)
Thanks
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Dale Moss
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Dale Moss »

Sheri,

Paul Herscu, who has treated ID diabetes, says the goal and effect of
homeopathic treatment is to prevent (or reduce) complications and allow
reduced dosage of insulin with improved stability of blood glucose levels.

Peace,
Cinnabar


Hennie Duits
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Hennie Duits »

That's what they are.
I've seen unstable ones get far more stable; so far, I've only seen one case
to get off insulin. In general, the need for insulin may be reduced.
Possibilities of recovery are highly depending upon the time people are
using insulin - long time = bad prognosis. (This one case was two years on
insulin).

Hennie


Rochelle
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Rochelle »

I don't try to treat the diabetes as it is being well controlled by the insulin however I look on my job as prevention of the long term complications of diabetes. However so saying when I give a good Rx to my patients their blood sugar levels change and they need less insulin. Sometimes this is only a temporary effect after a remedy and sometime long lasting. I am talking about IDD who have been on it for many years.

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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Sheri Nakken
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Sheri Nakken »

At 03:21 PM 02/04/2004 -0000, you wrote:

I find this really hard to believe.
Have you actually cured a case that has been diabetic on insulin, say since
childhood or teen years?
I'm looking for real life experiences. Documented cases.

And what would that do being used in such a routine way?

Sorry to doubt you, but I really would like actual cases not possibilities
Thanks
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Sheri Nakken
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Post by Sheri Nakken »

At 06:07 PM 02/04/2004 -0500, you wrote:

That's what I would think as said below.

If someone has a case of insulin dependent totally off insulin I really
would like to see documentation of that as it is a hard one for me to
believe without proof. (and I don't mean someone who had to use insulin
briefly, but someone who had been on insulin since a child or teen)
Sheri
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