Hello Jon
This is all just my own gleaned experience with many cases of eczema
all learned the hard way!
"Jon van Hoffen" wrote:
Thuja. Apparently he has had a combination remedy from an
naturopath/homoeopath a few years ago. I contacted him and this
complex contained Thuja in a number of potencies (LM01, LM01 and
200c). This remedy did not do anything to the eczema.
Thuya may be useful further down the road if there is a bigger Thuya
picture right now the infection is too apparent.
Psorinum.
Sepia and Psor will rep out simply from a maths result in that they
are over represented in the skin section for most eczema cases. And
Psor is often needed from a nutritional aspect.
Both remedy pictures also have big parts that do not seem to fit
though. I will keep on studying them to see if they could fit.
Only the right remedy fits we cant make them fit! But I do know what
you mean.
the stinging pain too is combined with eczema.
The pain is directly related to the infection. You are not looking
at exzema but infected eczema, which if you knew the constitutional
you could work with that but not knowing and with a picture confused
by many remedies may simply need to be treated "acutely" first.
Sulph low is an excellent staph fighter Bell will fight strep, and
hep sulph will fight staph aureus. Why? Is easy becuase they present
the picutre related to those remedies.
bit like sandpaper, so the gritty skin rubric seems applicable.
. I think the pain he feels might be associated with the fact that it
is infected, but I will check that.
Most of the modalities you presented are common to eczema. The pain
is specific to the infected part of it. Dont look so much at the
individual skin symptoms, you have had too much remedy interference,
take the single rubric eczema and take the whole case get everything
else that has ever been as a symptom in the child and find the
constitutional.
elements there that are significant.
The other route is to simply use the cortisone treatements orally
that are offered in these cases along with the antibiotics, which
buys you time for the other remedies to go through and then relook at
the whole case again in a months time. Watch where the skin breaks
out first and the type of eczema, the modalities will then be true
and the mental state of the child as he goes iinto the outbreak will
give you a good picture. The suppression as such is easily dealt
with when you are not under threat of massive infection and the child
will be able to go to school and sleep and cope beter once the whole
thing is more under control, even if that has to be allopathic for
the moment and you can catch your breath. Just keep an open mind as
to what is best for the health of the child right now.
The physical problems are so debilating and in need of treatment that
those have been my main focus till now.
Eczema is utterly debilitating both for the sufferer and for the
family. Look carefully into diet, the macrobiotic diet helps in a
wonderful way to cleans the system if the mum will do it. Brown rice
only for 10 days will clean the system also, the most I ever get from
the kids is 5 days but they can see the difference even then, prizes
for those kids at the end of each day (the american idea of bribery
of children for good behaviour which I really detest)
at this case now. I will keep you posted.
remedies I have used. Can I continue doing this if remedies do not
seem to be working, and am I right in assuming that remedies that do
not give a reaction or only temporary relief of a symptom can't be
the right ones.
Symptoms must disapear in reverse order of appearance as with any
case and if all you have is relief of one symptom then wait until you
understand what is happening befor jumping in again.
Good luck
merrilee
eczema case
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Re: eczema case
Just a thought, the cuttlefish (sepia) is a very curious, inquisitive creature!
Rgds Elizabeth
Rgds Elizabeth
Re: eczema case
Chris,
This is clear thinking. Thanks for offering it.
Best,
Andy
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Chris Gillen wrote (excerpts below)
This is clear thinking. Thanks for offering it.
Best,
Andy
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Chris Gillen wrote (excerpts below)
Re: eczema case
Often the problem with a case like this which has been partially suppressed
and, at least, heavily treated with allopathic drugs, the true symptom
picture becomes clouded. Thus you have to 'move' through the case carefully
and possibly resorting to remedies which only cover most but not all of the
picture, sometimes a nosode might be needed, such as a bowel nosode to help
clear the picture, especially when antibiotics and steroids have been used -
but these also have to fit whatever picture their is.
best, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 12/21/03 12:26 AM, Jon van Hoffen at jonvanhoffen@swiftdsl.com.au wrote:
Thank you all who responded to the eczema case,
There are quite a few suggestions I will look futher into.
Because of the aetiology I did of course look into Thuja. Apparently he has
had a combination remedy from an naturopath/homoeopath a few years ago. I
contacted him and this complex contained Thuja in a number of potencies
(LM01, LM01 and 200c). This remedy did not do anything to the eczema.
Sepia does come up quite high in my repertorisation as does Psorinum. Both
remedy pictures also have big parts that do not seem to fit though. I will
keep on studying them to see if they could fit.
The skin is not painful on areas not affected by the eczema, and the
stinging pain too is combined with eczema. As I read the Sepia symptoms
there is not a necessary link between eruption and sensation.
The skin in the joints is not pimple like. It really does look a bit like
sandpaper, so the gritty skin rubric seems applicable.
The staph infection does seem to become more problematic at this moment. He
has been on antibiotic treatment for a long time, but has stopped that as it
did not seem to be very effective at any rate. I think the pain he feels
might be associated with the fact that it is infected, but I will check
that.
I did have a look at Hep sulph before and there are certainly elements there
that are significant. I think Merrilee might be right and that the
infection might need treatment first. He has had the infection for a number
of years, after an episode of hospitalisation for his eczema.
I will try to get a few more mental symptoms in the next visits. The
physical problems are so debilating and in need of treatment that those have
been my main focus till now.
Thank you all for your help, I will have a few more angles to look at this
case now. I will keep you posted.
One thing I am concerned about myself is the frequent changes of remedies I
have used. Can I continue doing this if remedies do not seem to be working,
and am I right in assuming that remedies that do not give a reaction or only
temporary relief of a symptom can't be the right ones.
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and, at least, heavily treated with allopathic drugs, the true symptom
picture becomes clouded. Thus you have to 'move' through the case carefully
and possibly resorting to remedies which only cover most but not all of the
picture, sometimes a nosode might be needed, such as a bowel nosode to help
clear the picture, especially when antibiotics and steroids have been used -
but these also have to fit whatever picture their is.
best, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 12/21/03 12:26 AM, Jon van Hoffen at jonvanhoffen@swiftdsl.com.au wrote:
Thank you all who responded to the eczema case,
There are quite a few suggestions I will look futher into.
Because of the aetiology I did of course look into Thuja. Apparently he has
had a combination remedy from an naturopath/homoeopath a few years ago. I
contacted him and this complex contained Thuja in a number of potencies
(LM01, LM01 and 200c). This remedy did not do anything to the eczema.
Sepia does come up quite high in my repertorisation as does Psorinum. Both
remedy pictures also have big parts that do not seem to fit though. I will
keep on studying them to see if they could fit.
The skin is not painful on areas not affected by the eczema, and the
stinging pain too is combined with eczema. As I read the Sepia symptoms
there is not a necessary link between eruption and sensation.
The skin in the joints is not pimple like. It really does look a bit like
sandpaper, so the gritty skin rubric seems applicable.
The staph infection does seem to become more problematic at this moment. He
has been on antibiotic treatment for a long time, but has stopped that as it
did not seem to be very effective at any rate. I think the pain he feels
might be associated with the fact that it is infected, but I will check
that.
I did have a look at Hep sulph before and there are certainly elements there
that are significant. I think Merrilee might be right and that the
infection might need treatment first. He has had the infection for a number
of years, after an episode of hospitalisation for his eczema.
I will try to get a few more mental symptoms in the next visits. The
physical problems are so debilating and in need of treatment that those have
been my main focus till now.
Thank you all for your help, I will have a few more angles to look at this
case now. I will keep you posted.
One thing I am concerned about myself is the frequent changes of remedies I
have used. Can I continue doing this if remedies do not seem to be working,
and am I right in assuming that remedies that do not give a reaction or only
temporary relief of a symptom can't be the right ones.
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Re: eczema case
I would like to recommend that with eczema cases LM remedies are used.
The action is much more gentle and if there is any AGG, it will be short
lived.
Rgds
Soroush
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The action is much more gentle and if there is any AGG, it will be short
lived.
Rgds
Soroush
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Re: eczema case
Much beter than I could put it thanks Chris
merrilee
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--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Gillen"
wrote:
Psorinum. Both
I will
different
and look
up with
eruptions.****
that he
motion. This is
in their
lead to a
main
and then
symptoms in
combination,
everything
number of
not
towards
those
treated have
causation as a
simillimum very
aware
is, can
useful in
symptoms)
complaint.
This would
cause
what may
choice on a
remedies
ones.
themselves in
However,
picture
hypersensitive
that the
window of
prolonged, then
similie
dose as to
thinking you
things in
first
can be