Cereus bonplandii
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Cereus bonplandii
Dear Colleagues,
In synthessis repertory the rubric "MIND - SADNESS - burden; as from a"
has only Cereus bonplandii remedy with reference to a1 (ALLEN T. F., Encyclopedia of Pure Materia Medica) and c1 (CLARKE J. H., Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica) but in both of these references I could find such a statement.
can anybody help me?
Kind Regrads,
Nader
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In synthessis repertory the rubric "MIND - SADNESS - burden; as from a"
has only Cereus bonplandii remedy with reference to a1 (ALLEN T. F., Encyclopedia of Pure Materia Medica) and c1 (CLARKE J. H., Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica) but in both of these references I could find such a statement.
can anybody help me?
Kind Regrads,
Nader
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Re: Cereus bonplandii
from Allen:
Not very pleasant in mind.
- Very much disturbed in mind.
- Arose feeling miserable (second day).
- Praying, or disposition to pray.
- Very irritable.
- Very irritable; act from impulse (second day).
- Apathetic during attendance at church; could not fix the mind on devotional exercises, effort being strong (second day).
it is a bit of a stretch, but these mental characteristics can be akin to sadness as if from a burden
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Not very pleasant in mind.
- Very much disturbed in mind.
- Arose feeling miserable (second day).
- Praying, or disposition to pray.
- Very irritable.
- Very irritable; act from impulse (second day).
- Apathetic during attendance at church; could not fix the mind on devotional exercises, effort being strong (second day).
it is a bit of a stretch, but these mental characteristics can be akin to sadness as if from a burden
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Re: Cereus bonplandii
Dear Nader, perhaps someone can find the actual reference but certainly the
feeling comes from feeling oppressed (common to the cactus family) as there
is 'delusion under a powerful influence' - the reaction to this that they
become industrious, they want to work hard and to try and be useful so that
they no longer feel a burden to anyone. Unhappy love relationships with
pathology to the heart is to be expected.
Hope useful, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
feeling comes from feeling oppressed (common to the cactus family) as there
is 'delusion under a powerful influence' - the reaction to this that they
become industrious, they want to work hard and to try and be useful so that
they no longer feel a burden to anyone. Unhappy love relationships with
pathology to the heart is to be expected.
Hope useful, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
Re: Cereus bonplandii
Nader wrote:
In synthessis repertory the rubric "MIND - SADNESS - burden; as from a"
has only Cereus bonplandii remedy with reference to a1 (ALLEN T. F., Encyclopedia of Pure Materia Medica) and c1 (CLARKE J. H., Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica) but in both of these references I could find such a statement.
can anybody help me?
***Hi nader
I agree, it doesn't appear to be there in Allen or Clarke, or anywhere for that matter
Idea
It may be an error
or
Someone has been very creative and extrapolated from this symptom from Clarke to the one in question
[c1 - Cereus bonplandii - Mind] - Desire to engage in work; to have all time employed; to be engaged in something useful.
or it could be extrapolated in general from as Marvin the chronically depressed and paranoid robot in Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy would likely say
"I don't want to be a burden to anyone!"
This small remedy does have depression in it
If it is extrapolation, then this is a little worrying wouldn't you agree?
Robyn
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In synthessis repertory the rubric "MIND - SADNESS - burden; as from a"
has only Cereus bonplandii remedy with reference to a1 (ALLEN T. F., Encyclopedia of Pure Materia Medica) and c1 (CLARKE J. H., Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica) but in both of these references I could find such a statement.
can anybody help me?
***Hi nader
I agree, it doesn't appear to be there in Allen or Clarke, or anywhere for that matter
Idea
It may be an error
or
Someone has been very creative and extrapolated from this symptom from Clarke to the one in question
[c1 - Cereus bonplandii - Mind] - Desire to engage in work; to have all time employed; to be engaged in something useful.
or it could be extrapolated in general from as Marvin the chronically depressed and paranoid robot in Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy would likely say
"I don't want to be a burden to anyone!"
This small remedy does have depression in it
If it is extrapolation, then this is a little worrying wouldn't you agree?
Robyn
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Re: Cereus bonplandii
In a message dated 11/9/03 11:49:20 AM Mountain Standard Time,
nmoradi@tbzhom.com writes:
The closest references that I could find that fit the rubric above are these:
From Allen:
- Feel the effect of an incubus weighing me down, affecting more particularly
the nervous system (fourth day).
- Sensation of a great stone laid upon the heart; soon after, sensation as if
the chest was broken out just in front of the heart (second day).
From Clarke:
- He felt weighed down by an incubus.
- Sensation as of a great stone laid on heart; soon after as if chest broken
out just in front of heart.
Although the sadness element is not clear--the sense of the burden on the
heart could connect with the feeling of sadness as Joy alluded to earlier.
Hope this helps.
Jim Gregorich
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nmoradi@tbzhom.com writes:
The closest references that I could find that fit the rubric above are these:
From Allen:
- Feel the effect of an incubus weighing me down, affecting more particularly
the nervous system (fourth day).
- Sensation of a great stone laid upon the heart; soon after, sensation as if
the chest was broken out just in front of the heart (second day).
From Clarke:
- He felt weighed down by an incubus.
- Sensation as of a great stone laid on heart; soon after as if chest broken
out just in front of heart.
Although the sadness element is not clear--the sense of the burden on the
heart could connect with the feeling of sadness as Joy alluded to earlier.
Hope this helps.
Jim Gregorich
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Re: Cereus bonplandii
Dear Tanya,Joy,Jim and Robyn,
Thnx very much for reply and info.
I dont know who has added this rubric and remedy to the synthesis but it seems that there are many other rubrics in which we can not trust on them(at least i myself).
Kind regards,
Nader
Thnx very much for reply and info.
I dont know who has added this rubric and remedy to the synthesis but it seems that there are many other rubrics in which we can not trust on them(at least i myself).
Kind regards,
Nader
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Re: Cereus bonplandii
I had a patient who responded beautifully to Cereus bonplandi. He was a 28
year old Korean monk. He complained of a really heavy sensation on his head,
and a contracting and retracting sensation around his heart. He was actually
quite ill. He'd had several bouts of TB, treated allopathically, and then
because the sect he belonged to was so physically demanding (at least in the
highly idealized version he chose to follow), he had contracted cirrhosis of
the liver from the lack of protein in the diet. He contended that the only
food allowed was rice, and that's all he ate (if this is actually true of
the sect -- no beans, no green plants-- I can't imagine how it ever
survived, this being a truly inadequate diet to maintain human life. I
suspect this was his interpretation of the rules, in his desire to be more
aescetic, more self-punishing than required. He did say that the great
leaders had contracted tuberculosis repeatedly, and that was a mark of
sainthood). He was not settled in one monastery but was an itinerant monk
and scholar, traveling from one monastery to another all over the world, and
staying as a guest monk for several months before moving on. He had grown
up with a very militaristic, dominating father, and his rebellion had been
to leave home at 16 to join this rigorous sect as a monk. He felt this was
his calling, although he knew it was also killing him slowly. He'd always,
from about age 9, been extremely ascetic and focused on praying and
religion, a further source of contact with his father, who wanted an
athletic, business oriented, worldly son to carry on his own business. He
had a pain in the area of his right kidney, and his urine was scanty. He
was also complaining of increased sexual desire, which went against his role
as a monk. And his biggest complaint was that he couldn't study as was his
wont, that his mind became foggy and his memory nonexistent after only a
half hour or so, except when he worked in the evening, when he felt as if he
came back to life.
The sensation of contracting and constricting alternating, which he
illustrated many times with his hands, clearl indicated a remedy in the
cactaceae family, and this young man was so tubercular as to be almost
ethereal. Following Sankaran's chart of plants and miasms, I came to Cereus
bonplandii (a night blooming cactus!) as the probable prescription. It was
not a remedy I was familiar with, but when I read about it in Materia
Medicas, it described every aspect of this patient, and I prescribed it in
LM1, then LM2, then LM3. He responded nicely to LM1, with a very slight
exacerbation then gradual healing. He took off again after having started
LM2, and he had the LM3 in his suitcase, to start when/ if the LM2 stopped
working. I have only heard from him once, from Korea again, about two
months after he left, and he was still doing well (although he was still
part of that sect, which I interpreted as at least a maintaining cause). He
said he never intended to come to the US again, so I didn't plan ever to see
him again. He was certainly an interesting patient to work with!
There are very good Materia Medica descriptions of this remedy, for instance
in Anschutz, or in TF Allen's Encyclopedia.
Rosemary
year old Korean monk. He complained of a really heavy sensation on his head,
and a contracting and retracting sensation around his heart. He was actually
quite ill. He'd had several bouts of TB, treated allopathically, and then
because the sect he belonged to was so physically demanding (at least in the
highly idealized version he chose to follow), he had contracted cirrhosis of
the liver from the lack of protein in the diet. He contended that the only
food allowed was rice, and that's all he ate (if this is actually true of
the sect -- no beans, no green plants-- I can't imagine how it ever
survived, this being a truly inadequate diet to maintain human life. I
suspect this was his interpretation of the rules, in his desire to be more
aescetic, more self-punishing than required. He did say that the great
leaders had contracted tuberculosis repeatedly, and that was a mark of
sainthood). He was not settled in one monastery but was an itinerant monk
and scholar, traveling from one monastery to another all over the world, and
staying as a guest monk for several months before moving on. He had grown
up with a very militaristic, dominating father, and his rebellion had been
to leave home at 16 to join this rigorous sect as a monk. He felt this was
his calling, although he knew it was also killing him slowly. He'd always,
from about age 9, been extremely ascetic and focused on praying and
religion, a further source of contact with his father, who wanted an
athletic, business oriented, worldly son to carry on his own business. He
had a pain in the area of his right kidney, and his urine was scanty. He
was also complaining of increased sexual desire, which went against his role
as a monk. And his biggest complaint was that he couldn't study as was his
wont, that his mind became foggy and his memory nonexistent after only a
half hour or so, except when he worked in the evening, when he felt as if he
came back to life.
The sensation of contracting and constricting alternating, which he
illustrated many times with his hands, clearl indicated a remedy in the
cactaceae family, and this young man was so tubercular as to be almost
ethereal. Following Sankaran's chart of plants and miasms, I came to Cereus
bonplandii (a night blooming cactus!) as the probable prescription. It was
not a remedy I was familiar with, but when I read about it in Materia
Medicas, it described every aspect of this patient, and I prescribed it in
LM1, then LM2, then LM3. He responded nicely to LM1, with a very slight
exacerbation then gradual healing. He took off again after having started
LM2, and he had the LM3 in his suitcase, to start when/ if the LM2 stopped
working. I have only heard from him once, from Korea again, about two
months after he left, and he was still doing well (although he was still
part of that sect, which I interpreted as at least a maintaining cause). He
said he never intended to come to the US again, so I didn't plan ever to see
him again. He was certainly an interesting patient to work with!
There are very good Materia Medica descriptions of this remedy, for instance
in Anschutz, or in TF Allen's Encyclopedia.
Rosemary
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Re: Cereus bonplandii
Hi Nader,
I put the question at the synthesis forum, and here is their reply...
"In his introduction to the remedy, Clarke indicates that one prover "felt
weighed down by an incubus"...(an evil spirit believed to lie upon persons
in their sleep, and especially to have sexual intercourse with women by
night - incubus has also a more general meaning of "nightmare"). So the
sensation of weight is there, but your question is justified as far as
"sadness" is concerned. In analytical terms, there is a clear sexual
connotation in this quote (with great religious culpability, a grand
characteristic of this remedy). "
so the rubric does seems like a bit of a stretch ...
regarsd,
Arun
I put the question at the synthesis forum, and here is their reply...
"In his introduction to the remedy, Clarke indicates that one prover "felt
weighed down by an incubus"...(an evil spirit believed to lie upon persons
in their sleep, and especially to have sexual intercourse with women by
night - incubus has also a more general meaning of "nightmare"). So the
sensation of weight is there, but your question is justified as far as
"sadness" is concerned. In analytical terms, there is a clear sexual
connotation in this quote (with great religious culpability, a grand
characteristic of this remedy). "
so the rubric does seems like a bit of a stretch ...
regarsd,
Arun