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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Vaccination - Who needs it?

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Dear Colleagues

I attended a lecture by Dr Viera Scheibner, PhD on Thursday night which had been organised by a UK national organisation called the Informed Parent and the Maldon Homoeopathic Clinic which is not far from me. It was held at a lecture room at the University of Colchester. [Colchester is the oldest town in UK made by the Romans before Christ!]

This is going to be a brief summary (high lights) of her very interesting 3 hour lecture - so it will not do justice to it. It was packed with information and papers from the Lancet and BMJ and the like.

Viera is a Czech and a medical scientist. She is touring UK at moment giving this lecture in a variety of locations.

In the 80's she had been working of the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. She met a man called Leif who later became her second husband. He was medical equipment maker and she had asked him to produce a breathing monitor so that they could monitor the babies' breathing.

The machine he designed was electronic and was able to distinguish between the heart and lung functions and if the breathing became shallow and difficult it would sound an alarm.

With the help of the paediatricians they started to sell these units to parents.

Then she started to get calls from parents to say the machine was alarming - sometimes many time during the night (disturbed sleep for parents) and no one could find out why. Units were replaced (in case they had been faulty) and the alarming patterns continued.

Many causes were investigated and then Leif produced another unit which actually plotted the breathing pattern of the baby and so they could see how an alarm situation would arise. They then realised that there had been a major event in the babies' lives - vaccination with DPT.

The alarm patterns (sorry that I cannot reproduce graphs) were some on 1st day, more on 2nd, drop in 3rd, rise in 4th, rise in 6 to 8th and then a rapid rise in 16th, 22nd to 24th and also 27/28th days after vaccination.

She then tried to get the data from the coroners office about the death rates and with great difficulty she obtained these and the death patterns matched these alarm patterns too - so some 'healthy' babies died on 1st and 2nd day of vaccination some on 4th, some on 7 & 8th and a lot on 16th and then some on 24th etc.

When she reported this, the 'friendly paeditricians' stopped recommending these alarms to parents!

The rule that was found that the delayed reaction was a rule.
It was < as the child aged (more and more vaccinations)

In Japan in 1975 they increased the minimum age of vaccination to 2 and the mortality of children changed rapidly.
Japan had been 17th worst for infant mortality. It became the best!!
Also the incidents of whooping cough went DOWN.

In USA where vaccination is mandatory, the infant mortality has gone up and with all the sophisticated medical facilities in USA, it is now on par with third world countries.

[She also said that in Australia it is mandatory to show the vaccination status report of the child attending school. This means that you show that there have or have not been vaccinated - However, some authorities refer to this as the vaccination report of the child and parents are led to believe that by law they have to have their child vaccinated - they DON'T.]

With DPT there is one chance in 1750 vaccinations that there will convulsions. So when the child has three doses of the vaccine, the probability of convulsions resulting is about 1/580 ! (There are convulsions after MMR too)

Studies had shown in rats that baby rats injected with DPT doses would develop encephalitis. The check for the 'shaken baby syndrome' about which there have been many cases where the parents or the nanny have been persecuted is the same. Interestingly most of these cases have occurred post vaccination!!

There is a lot of peanut oil allergy being experienced. Of note is the fact that the DPT vaccine contained peanut oil and with it alphatoxin from fungus infected peanuts plus other substances which are toxic and carcinogenic. (Some vaccines have egg albumin, mercury and other nasties!)

When in Sweden they stopped using the pertusis vaccine there were no cases of whooping cough below 6 months, very few below 2 years and most were between 2.5 and 10 years. It is only dangerous in babies of less than 6 months of age!

When they made vaccinations mandatory in USA the incidents went up. Also the vaccinated mother gives no transplacenta immunity. Also there have been many many incidents of whooping cough in children who had been vaccinated.

They had 96% vaccination cover in Holland, but they still had an epidemic!

The pertutsis vaccine increased the susceptibility to Hibs (meningitis) and bacterial infections.

With the tetanus vaccine she said it affected the blood pressure of a lot people and that BP should be checked before and after.

MEASLES:
In pre-1963 (and vaccination) books, it is described as an ordinary childhood disease.
In post 63 books, it is then referred to as a dangerous disease that can be deadly. [In fact the current UK advertising plays on this fear of death of children from measles!]

With MMR, there have been many complaints of autism and other problem.

Investigations have shown that autistic children often have bowel disorders (Crohn's etc.) The measles virus has been found in the bowel and also in their brain.

There was a campaign of MMR and Hib in UK.

The plot of incidents is of great interest.
The incidents of Hibs did not change pre/post campaign. But there was a sharp rise in the incidents of meningitis and septicaemia. This vaccine was rejected in UK. It was shipped to Brazil and the same pattern resulted in Brazil.
(Oh how the love of money is such a great evil.)

More than half of the measles happened in the MMR vaccinated kids.
This survey pattern repeated in other countries such as Hungary & Australia (78% vaccinated)

Japan stopped MMR vaccines.
There has been no measles epidemic, no meningitis rise.

The concept of herd immunity is used often to defend the need for high rates of vaccination.
Before vaccination of childhood diseases, it was found in survey that when 63% of susceptible got measles, the disease incidents died off - to come back 3 - 4 years later.

Viera was saying that in a live radio broadcast she was being challenged on her ideas and when the concept of children dying from vaccination had come up, the proponent had said that to achieve herd immunity, we may have to sacrifice some lives.
Viera quick as a flash had responded - Oh we are now into child sacrifice like the Incas?? Deadly silence!!

The Amish religious sect (who live in rather closed communities in USA) do not vaccinate at all. They have not reported any cases of measles where the outside world was having incidents of measles.

From mouse and rat studies, it has been shown with CLEAR evidence that the vaccinated subject is more susceptible to other diseases and worst still, the disease has an accentuated pattern and is more difficult to resolve.

Rubella:
The reason given for this is that if a pregnant woman becomes infected in the first 3 months of the pregnancy, the child will have deformities.
Again Amish studies have shown that there is some hype here:
There were 276 case of rubella.
5 were pregnant women.
3 were in the first 3 months.
No deformities were seen in births!

It has been found also that children who have had measles develop good speech and do not get asthma!

In a study of ovarian tumours and cancers it was found that girls that had had mumps did not get ovarian cancer!

In colclusion we learn that Vaccination may not give immunity, but with CERTAINTY it sensitises the person to other diseases.

She throw a final challenge at the advocates of vaccination:
That they should be vaccinated by doses suitable for their body weighta in the same sequence as the babies. The doses will be prepared under the supervision of a doctor nominated by Viera and administered by him - the volunteer will be checked and monitored before and after for any changes. Their own physician can of course be present.
If they will not volunteer for this test how dare they advocate it for little defenceless babies.
She has broadcasted this - and no one has yet accepted this challenge.

Rgds
Soroush
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Leilanae
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Post by Leilanae »

Hi,

Some vaccination info from one of the lists:
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Soroush Ebrahimi wrote:

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Jana Shiloh
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Post by Jana Shiloh »

I have been in touch with a woman whose husband is in prison for life for
shaken baby syndrome (SBS). The death of the aleady ill child came after the
vaccination from what turns out to be a very "hot lot". I have been
corresponding with the husband in prison. HE has done monumental research
for his case, and others. They will be filing a major appeal shortly (he has
been in prison with the worst killers for 4 yrs now).

If there are any MD's, ND's who are willing to write letters to back them
up, or testify, or know of lawyers who have an interest and can consult on
this case pro bono please contact Francine. She also needs a job, is very
organized, and can work out of her home. Check their website for all the
details on this case: freeyurko.bisland.com.

Dr H Buttram, and many others have already agreed to testify. This is also a
test case. They need all the support they can get. His address, as well as
her email is on the site.


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Viera has testified in many cases (even in USA)!

Soroush


Jana Shiloh
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Steve and Christine Wilson
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Post by Steve and Christine Wilson »

This is a link to one of Viera's articles .
Also dont forget sheri Nakkens site she herself has had some involvement
in cases I think ,or knows people in the legal system who deal with
cases like this

snakken@nccn.net. Please contact for more help

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/shakenbaby.html
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Steve and Christine Wilson


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