- Sharing a Case

[Joy Lucas]

Dear Rosemary, I think there is a great need to keep it simple. If one has
taken the case as carefully as possible and can 'see' the remedy needed,
prescribes it and it does nothing, then it isn't the end of the world, we go
back and look at the case again, ask more questions check our details, read
and probably read again and then we might see the obvious. It is a
continuing learning curve.

best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 10/2/03 7:35 PM, Rosemary Hyde at rosemaryhyde@mindspring.com wrote:

Thanks, Julian, for carrying on this discussion and presenting your analysis
of the case that was cured by Chamomilla. This sort of thing really is
interesting, because it happens all the time.

It's entirely possible, using the obvious rubrics, to come up with a remedy
that came through and yet does nothing. It's also possible, in my
experience, to come up convincingly after the fact with a remedy different
from the one that someone else chose to actually cure the case.

Of course, Rochelle had an advantage over the rest of us reading the case,
in that she had seen the child and mother together, and knew that Pulsatilla
was unlilkely, given the way they behaved.

But I've often wondered about situations like this. Either more than one
remedy could have worked (we never find out, because the one that does work
finishes the job, and the same case never recurs).

Or the practitioner actually relating one on one with the patient(s)
benefits from energetic and intuitive information that goes back and forth
and becomes part of the whole healing situation (I've seen enough evidence
for this to believe it, actually).

Or the reference materials we have available as homeopaths can use some
firming up, confirmation, scientific review, reformatting on a variety of
levels. I believe all of this is true as well.

I'm glad people like Sankaran, Scholten, and Vemeulen are focusing on this
last issue. I'd be interested to learn what others think of the first two
possibilities I raised.

Rosemary

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[Julian Winston]

At 11:22 AM -0500 10/2/03, Bob&Shannon wrote:

The whole thing is that until we have the alternate universe machine,
we only know (in this case) that Cham. worked. We do not know if
Bryonia (or Puls, or Lyc.) might have helped as well.
Dr. Henry Williams described this as getting "close enough." He told
me of cases he had where he knew the remedy wasn't exact, but it was
what he had, so he gave it and it worked.
Dr. Panos once said that if you only have five remedies and one of
them is Arsenicum, then use *that* for diarrhea, if none of the
others are close. She said that it might need to be repeated, and the
person will feel better over a day rather than an hour, but it was
close enough-- especially in a lower potency.

JW

[Rochelle]

I actually have my analysis on the computer set to bring out the rubrics covered NOT the rubric grades!! I have never repped any other way!!

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Rochelle]

Julian said


I also remember being told that the lower the potency the less specific you have to be with the remedy as the lower potencies have a larger sphere of action.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Rochelle]

Dear Shannon
If Puls had been indicated the child would have wanted to be on Mum's knee rather than by her side!! At least that is how I see it!!

Regards
Rochelle


www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Rochelle]

BTW - This acute + all your comments - I trust you don't mind - fabulous teaching material for the homeopathic students I had in tonight for a Regional Tutorial!!!! Thanks it has been really interesting. Now I must go and pack for Dr R's weekend!!!!

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Julian Winston]

At 10:43 PM +0100 10/2/03, ROCHELLE wrote:
Yes. Someone said the low potencies were like a shotgun-- it will hit
anything it's pointed at.
While the high potencies are like a long range target gun-- if you
aren't right on, you'll miss.

JW

[Shannon Nelson]

Well, this is perhaps another place where my understanding of the remedy is
too limited. Because I would have thought that "capricious" and "irritable"
were at least equally characteristic of cham (and I did not get the sense
that this child was either, tho I suppose the crying and not wanting to be
disturbed is similar, but didn't strike me as all *that* similar. Just as
you'd expect puls to be more clingy, you'd expect cham to be more demanding
-- at least *I* would have. Maybe I just need to expand my understanding of
Cham...
on 10/2/03 4:46 PM, ROCHELLE at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

[Julian Winston]

At 7:01 PM -0500 10/2/03, Bob&Shannon wrote:

[snip]
Maybe you have to not worry about it. The case you saw was on PAPER,
and translated into sentences. God knows what Rochelle heard while
talking to the mom... the kid? The quality of the voice? Other
encounters with the family?
That's all stuff that will NOT translate unless a great effort is
made to do so.

Go to the MMP and read the provings. Get to know it that way!

JW

[Rochelle]

My thoughts exactly Julian. I always did hate paper cases. However I can't believe the posts this has generated. I have really enjoyed it.

Also on the same vein I have always said that you can't knock the healing effect between patient and practitioner. If the empathy is there you are 1/2 way to cure!!

Please don't discuss this one until I am back posting on Monday night!!

All the best
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk