holding penis in 7 yr old - Update

[Rochelle]

Hi Andy,
I did look at Rhus Tox but reckoned that there would have to be some sort of
eruption for this to be the correct Rx. Where did you get the bladder
urination involuntary from as this is not a problem of his?

Rochelle
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Rhus-t is listed for tingling at root,
RHUS-T
Verm concord

urinary
Pains: [11] Tearing, in region of kidneys; with oedema; after exposure to
wet.
Observed: Dark, high-coloured, scanty urine, with white sediment.
Dysuria, with loss of blood. [2]

Enuresis worse lying, at night, or sitting; in boys.

Nephritis. Frequent, profuse urination day and night. [6] Dribbling of urine
in cold air or from becoming cold; in women. [11] Tenesmus of bladder, with
discharge of a few drops of blood-red urine. Retention of urine, with
restlessness and backache, can't keep quiet. Urine passes in a divided
stream. Urine turbid when passed. Frequent and painful micturition from
prolapsus uteri. Drops of blood-red urine.
male
Pains: [6] In prostate causes urging to stool.
Observed: Swelling of glans and prepuce; dark red, erysipelatous. [2]
Hydrocele; from overlifting. [6] Painful, persistent erections, better lying
on back. [7] Paraphimosis. Humid eruptions on genitals and between scrotum
and thighs. [11] Erections at night with desire to urinate. Scrotum thick
and hard, with intolerable itching. Humid vesicles on glans. Stinging
itching on inner surface of prepuce. Red blotches on inner surface of
prepuce. Enormous oedema of scrotum and penis after scarlatina, with
recurrence of fever; penis assumed a spiral form. Metastasis of mumps to
right testicle.
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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Patricia,

I'm very interested by this comment.
Do you consider the head lice rubric a "must use" (more or less) in any case
where the person has (or has had?) them, or is it something about this case?

Do I rightly assume, then, that you'd treat this not as an acute, but as
either "acute exacerbation" or with the/a chronic remedy?

Thanks,
Shannon
on 8/19/03 7:19 PM, Patricia Hatherly at triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:

[Rochelle]

I had completely forgotten about the head lice Patricia and will ask Mum about this when she phones!! Thanks. Why Mercury? That was the first Rx I every gave that child 3 years ago because his tonsils were so swollen they were touching. It did the trick but since then he has had them out!!

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Joy Lucas]

Dear Rochelle, I would go with merc viv as well.

"Children or adults pull and scratch at the genitals from a kind of itching
which makes them do so" - Murphy. And if there is a bacterial issue this
would also clear it up hopefully.

best, Joy
on 8/20/03 1:19 AM, Patricia Hatherly at triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:

Dear Rochelle

I still think you need to cross the Rx from these rubrics with the head lice
for a true Simillimum. It's intersting that Merc features in all.

regards
Patricia
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[Patricia Hatherly]

Dear Rochelle

I still think you need to cross the Rx from these rubrics with the head lice
for a true Simillimum. It's intersting that Merc features in all.

regards
Patricia

[Rochelle]

Thanks Patricia and Joy - This sounds exactly like it. have told Mum to hold on the Clem. 6x and I will give her Merc V 30.
Will let you all know how it goes.

Rochelle
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[Rochelle]

Dear Patricia,
Am on hold at the moment. Grandma gave the child Clematis 6x at 8.30 am and I spoke to the child at about 11am and he said it was better. I have told him to tell Grandma when it gets worse again and she will repeat the pills. Re the head lice Grandma said it has gone and he has had his hair cut. Well with that I suspect Mum used the chemical shampoo!!! (Suppression?) I really like the mercury idea and when necessary will use it. I would prefer to start with 30 because this is one nice , good quiet every ones dream of a child and I can't see Merc as constitutional remedy for him. Thanks.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

[Patricia Hatherly]

Dear Shannon

I haven't kept the original list from Rochelle but I do remember at the time
she listed head lice as part of his "total health picture".

Granted this little chap is acutely suffering from an inflammation in his
genitalia. However, he also has head lice so this becomes a significant
concomitant and should be taken as part of the Totality on which to base the
Simillimum.

Yes; this inflammation is an acute expression of a chronic and any other
significant symptoms then become concomitants and should be considered also.

To prescribe on the local symptoms only runs the risk of it not being a
Simillimum and only partially covering the case. Cantharis 6C hasn't held;
so if the 30C doesn't succeed the case needs to be looked at again and I
would suggest a wider perspective.

regards
Patricia

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Patricia and Joy,

I'm puzzled by this... I don't understand why we can say Merc represents a
"deeper totality" simply by virtue of covering these three rubrics. Over
and over I have cases where a given remedy covers *many* rubrics -- each of
which was carefully considered and IMO strong in the case, and yet the
remedy doesn't act. (Actually I'm getting ready to put one of them up, and
so this dicussion seems very appropos to that!)

I'm not meaning this in a critical way -- my prescribing is *way* too
hit-or-miss for me to get critical! -- but trying to understand. I
understand this (the concomitant and 3 rubrics) to be a terrific basis for
*considering* Merc, but I would have thought there needed to be lots more
indications to justify giving it???? Also, two of the three I would have
considered local symptoms and thereby not so compelling (burning urethra and
lice -- I realize that lice occur only according to susceptibility, but then
so does burning urethra... Help!).

??
Shannon
on 8/20/03 4:57 AM, Patricia Hatherly at triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:

[Joy Lucas]

Dear Shannon, from my point of view I did say that I had missed most of
these posts and there seemed to be nothing else to the case except for the
'handling' (for whatever reason) of the penis. If the other 2 sx are or
were, at some point, prominent sx, then this does give even more credibility
to choosing Merc. This is keynote prescribing but if that is all there is,
then so be it - that is the 'deep' totality, although that 'deepness' seems
quite shallow, but it is THE case, unless, of course there are other issues
which we have not been told.

Personally, I think it is so much easier when there are not many sx or
rubrics to choose from and I always 'trim' cases right down to their bare
essentials - perhaps you might want to try that sometime, just as an
experiment - take just a few of the guiding sx of a case and work with those
and see what you come up with. Let's do that with the case you are about to
show us?

Symptoms are just that, signs of what is going on. Simple grading of them is
usually enough without making the case too complicated.

Best wishes, Joy
on 8/20/03 4:13 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Hi Patricia and Joy,

I'm puzzled by this... I don't understand why we can say Merc represents a
"deeper totality" simply by virtue of covering these three rubrics. Over
and over I have cases where a given remedy covers *many* rubrics -- each of
which was carefully considered and IMO strong in the case, and yet the
remedy doesn't act. (Actually I'm getting ready to put one of them up, and
so this dicussion seems very appropos to that!)

I'm not meaning this in a critical way -- my prescribing is *way* too
hit-or-miss for me to get critical! -- but trying to understand. I
understand this (the concomitant and 3 rubrics) to be a terrific basis for
*considering* Merc, but I would have thought there needed to be lots more
indications to justify giving it???? Also, two of the three I would have
considered local symptoms and thereby not so compelling (burning urethra and
lice -- I realize that lice occur only according to susceptibility, but then
so does burning urethra... Help!).

??
Shannon
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