ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

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Mary Marlowe
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Mary Marlowe »

Bacon grease does not cause high cholesterol - hydrogenated oils
(transfats) do, though. And cholesterol has no real co-relation to heart
disease, anyway. It is easy to become distracted by allopathic ideas about
diet (heavily influenced by the processed food industry, BTW) and forget to
take the case...
Mary Marlowe

At 02:12 PM 8/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:


Colleen Byrd
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Colleen Byrd »

Adult diabetes could be diet and or emotional.
Juvenile diabetes is more than likely deep grief.
I've never seen any one with diabetes that is not "controlling or have or had deep sorrow. Of course not everyone that has grief will get diabetes. Your Constitution will determine if you could get diabetes in the diseased state.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The book I have on emotions says of Diabetes (Hyperglycemia, Mellitus) "Longing for what might have been. A great need to control. Deep sorrow. No Sweetness left". So a Homeopath would have to determine what's has caused it and go from there.
Colleen
can you speak a bit more about the relationship of diabetes to grief?
are you saying that juvenile diabetes is more grief related than adult
onset diabetes?
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I'm told that sometimes juvenile diabetes can be caused by a virus or an
allergy (milk?). I have a cousin who developed diabetes a few days after
recovering from a serious viral infection -- at age 2. Not sure how one
would get at the "deep grief" there? (He's now about 28, a happy but very
sulphur kind of guy; sadly, the family has less than zero interest in
alternative anything...)

To me, the "grief" connection is one that might be explored as as
possibility, but I think it would be a *big* mistake to impose that
interpretation on a patient who believes otherwise. (Fortunately, we have
"the rest of the case" to prescribe on!)

Best,
Shannon
on 8/9/03 5:33 PM, Colleen Byrd at cbyrd6@tampabay.rr.com wrote:


Ruby
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Post by Ruby »

Colleen,

I'd like to know what book you're reading as it sounds interesting.
What remedies do they suggestin looking at from this perspective?
Thanks so much!
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Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

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Beverly Shamon
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Would you please share the name of the book


Colleen Byrd
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Post by Colleen Byrd »

You Can Heal Your Life by Louise L. Hay
Colleen
Would you please share the name of the book
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Nancy Siciliana
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Nancy Siciliana »

The whole idea about the Atkins' and other similar diets is that it is an
easily adaptable method of eating meals...so, really, "cheating" isn't much
of an issue--unless you go back to eating a carb rich diet consisting of
things like ice creams, pastas, white flour foods, poor quality meats and
sweetened fruits! There is nothing wrong with the occasional plate of pasta
or slice of pizza or even the occasional serving of very sweet fruits or
desserts...again, moderation is the key, and so is balance. These "diets"
are meant to allow you to alternate and continue without feeling as though
you've permanently upset the "balance" of your metabolism. Heck, once in a
while I'd substitute a creme brulee for a tomato salad if I had to keep my
sanity, and if I were feeling a bit luxurious! We all have to live in this
world, and its nice to know you can without feeling as though you've
sabotaged your efforts.

These diets most closely resemble older culinary/dietary food plans--they
are structured similarly to the way most peoples on the planet traditionally
ate (and many still do...such as the French or Italians, who can control
much of how their food is produced and maintain the integrity and nutritive
value of their food products. These cuisines, for example, are full of rich
cheeses, nuts, animal fats and meats of all kinds, as well as the
phenomenally encyclopedic use of vegetables). The whole idea behind them
is: "What if you took away the vast conglomerates who make wonderbread, Chef
Boyardee, Kraft Cheez Whiz, Becel margarine, and all the refined sugar
"food" groups we're inundated with on the market...and ate real foods
instead?

The truth is, when you do take away all those false foods, you're left with
quite a rich selection of really great foods to eat. I think the best
outcome of the popularity of these diets is that they allow people to
realise this fact.


Nancy Siciliana
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Nancy Siciliana »

Well, he may want to double check the types of fats he is eating. A lot of
people still mistakenly and tragically believe that they can eat things like
hydrogenated fats and "low fat foods" (usually loaded with sugar and poor
quality carbs) without trouble (because so many doctors are still
misinforming people about this).

I've seen this happen only where people "thought" they followed the diet,
but instead interpreted the diet as "I can eat all the meat I want, just no
sugar or bread". Too many people have an idea that these diets are all
about meat and more meat. Sadly, when they learn that their cholesterol
level is climbing, docs steer them back to the really toxic margarine and
"low fat" diets...which are full of refined starches and pretty much "god
knows what". They end up eating food they hate, too many sugars and strange
chemicals, not enough necessary fats and oils, and they suffer.

Most people do very well if they stop eating processed packaged foods, get
picky about their protein sources, and begin to eat plenty of greens and
fresh vegetables and fruits. Fats are absolutely necessary on this diet,
but they have to be usable and high quality--real butter and cheeses made
from raw milks and creams, flax or fish oil taken daily, high quality omega
6 oils such as extra virgin olive oil or supplemental oils made from hemp,
borage, or oil of evening primrose, etc.


Nancy Siciliana
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Nancy Siciliana »

Bacon grease does not cause high cholesterol - hydrogenated oils
(transfats) do, though. And cholesterol has no real co-relation to heart
disease, anyway. It is easy to become distracted by allopathic ideas about
diet (heavily influenced by the processed food industry, BTW) and forget to
take the case...
Mary Marlowe

Amen to that!!

Nancy

At 02:12 PM 8/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
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Mary Marlowe
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Re: ATKINS DIET - Off Topic?

Post by Mary Marlowe »

At 06:02 PM 8/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:

And vaccination has been linked to the increase in juvenile diabetes, too.
So while there MAY be a grief connection, if there is no evidence of grief
other than diabetes, then I would not use the rubric...
Mary Marlowe


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