Hi Robin,
Interesting question!
I bet in your 20 yrs practice you have noticed times when you seemed to
be treating some types of problem a lot more than others?
For example , I remember over a period of about two months I kept
getting cases presenting with knee problems, and the patients didn't
know one another. Bizarre I thought, but it seems that this is not an
uncommon occurrence. So if grouping of themes in cases if possible then
so must it be in remedies.
Ian Watson mentioned in one of his seminars, just after Granite and
Chocolate had been proved I think, that awareness of any given remedy
plays a part in the likelihood of cases coming that need it. Perhaps
there are also other forces at play which we aren't aware of, (
astrology typically depicts this sort of thing), and it has been
referred to in the book 'The Field' (sorry memory glitch for the
author). Perhaps sometimes it is the time for the remedy and its theme
to emerge (or vica versa)
I do know that if I am learning a new remedy, or relearning and old
one, the odds are that I will be more likely to see the need for it.
Apart from Granite mentioned above, Bayleaf prescribed successfully
comes to mind. However I remember also trying Ayahuasca to no avail
whatsoever in one case, it seemed clearly indicated from my
understanding at the time, but as a consequence I lost interest in
Ayahuasca for quite a while, and so didn't prescribe it.
Practitioners like Melanie Grimes and others who publish cases with new
remedies, I can only guess use these remedies in PREFERENCE to their
better known related remedies, perhaps they stick their necks out but
get the results because of it.
I suspect that if a practitioner only knew new remedies and nothing
else they would have cured cases by those remedies, so in a nutshell it
probably boils down to what remedies we know well
Simon
On 23 Apr 2005, at 14:54, Robin wrote
hello
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Julian Winston
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Re: hello
At 6:54 AM -0700 4/23/05, Robin wrote:
A big problem.
So what remedies HAVE you used? Don't count the ones you haven't
used! Count the ones you have. Check back with a list.
Don't worry about it. I really believe that too many people are using
too many unknown remedies because the CANNOT SEE the case at hand,
are bringing in prejudices, AND they don NOT KNOW anything about the
original great polychrests.
All you can do is give the remedies that present themselves.
HOMEOPATHY IS NOT A CONTEST!!!!
If you can cure your patients with 20 polychrests-- than more power to you.
DO HOMEOPATHY!!
jw
A big problem.
So what remedies HAVE you used? Don't count the ones you haven't
used! Count the ones you have. Check back with a list.
Don't worry about it. I really believe that too many people are using
too many unknown remedies because the CANNOT SEE the case at hand,
are bringing in prejudices, AND they don NOT KNOW anything about the
original great polychrests.
All you can do is give the remedies that present themselves.
HOMEOPATHY IS NOT A CONTEST!!!!
If you can cure your patients with 20 polychrests-- than more power to you.
DO HOMEOPATHY!!
jw
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stevew872000
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:00 pm
Re: hello
Dear Robin,
It is a puzzle. I have been in practice for 29 years. According to
my records I have only prescribed about 900 remedies over all those
years. So many many remedies I have never seen a case of, or more
likely I have but got away with a remedy that was close enough in
its place. I think that is part of the problem. We just can't k
now all the remedies and we often can get away with something in the
ballpark.
Also I have often had the experience of learning a new remedy and
then seeing shortly after a person or a number of people needing the
remedy. Yes I may be seeing it because it is fresh in my mind, but
it works.
I have had good cases of about half the remedies you mentioned. I
also find that I have many many new cases of some of the new
remedies- some of the new remedies are rare ones and I have used
them once or twice but there are many new remedies that are common
remedies- especially many proved by Jeremy Sherr. I have hadmany
Hydrogen and Helium cases, a couple of Salmon , a couple of
Chocolate etc etc. And I have had a good dozen Bamboo cases. Some
of these remedies are extremely common patterns.
Steve Waldstein RSHom (NA) CCH PCH
Denver
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robin wrote:
some
cases, often
very busy
case of
phos, Mag
very few.
yet
out cases
this all
present 3
true
It is a puzzle. I have been in practice for 29 years. According to
my records I have only prescribed about 900 remedies over all those
years. So many many remedies I have never seen a case of, or more
likely I have but got away with a remedy that was close enough in
its place. I think that is part of the problem. We just can't k
now all the remedies and we often can get away with something in the
ballpark.
Also I have often had the experience of learning a new remedy and
then seeing shortly after a person or a number of people needing the
remedy. Yes I may be seeing it because it is fresh in my mind, but
it works.
I have had good cases of about half the remedies you mentioned. I
also find that I have many many new cases of some of the new
remedies- some of the new remedies are rare ones and I have used
them once or twice but there are many new remedies that are common
remedies- especially many proved by Jeremy Sherr. I have hadmany
Hydrogen and Helium cases, a couple of Salmon , a couple of
Chocolate etc etc. And I have had a good dozen Bamboo cases. Some
of these remedies are extremely common patterns.
Steve Waldstein RSHom (NA) CCH PCH
Denver
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robin wrote:
some
cases, often
very busy
case of
phos, Mag
very few.
yet
out cases
this all
present 3
true
Re: hello
Hello Julian and others. This IS a busy place, Im glad I found it. I
have kept out of discussions for a long time because I find I often
end up at odds with a lot of current thought. The list of remedies
I quoted was a random list of fairly common remedies I have
prescribed without effect. There are MANY more. I have used
bucket loads of Rhust tox and Belladonna but wouldnt like to
present more than two cases of each to be properly scrutinised.
Thats after 22 years of busy practice. Im just puzzled at how
people decide to develope a theory about the Lanthanides or
dinosaur bones or something and produce cured cases within a
year of coming up with the idea. When I was a student I
accepted these things because I could put it doxn to the teachers
immense experience. Now that I have my own experience (and I
have always been very experimental and open minded) I find this
phenomenon puzzling. I actually stopped listening to all these
current teachers a few years ago because I felt things were
going too fast withoput being questioned. I havent even got my
head around 10 miasms yet. Either the cases are not real, have
been modified for presentation or the practitioners belief in their
methods is influencing outcome. The latter is something that I
believe happens a lot in energy medicine.
PS I repeat dry doses the time. Dare to break the 'rules' - you
may be surprised!
have kept out of discussions for a long time because I find I often
end up at odds with a lot of current thought. The list of remedies
I quoted was a random list of fairly common remedies I have
prescribed without effect. There are MANY more. I have used
bucket loads of Rhust tox and Belladonna but wouldnt like to
present more than two cases of each to be properly scrutinised.
Thats after 22 years of busy practice. Im just puzzled at how
people decide to develope a theory about the Lanthanides or
dinosaur bones or something and produce cured cases within a
year of coming up with the idea. When I was a student I
accepted these things because I could put it doxn to the teachers
immense experience. Now that I have my own experience (and I
have always been very experimental and open minded) I find this
phenomenon puzzling. I actually stopped listening to all these
current teachers a few years ago because I felt things were
going too fast withoput being questioned. I havent even got my
head around 10 miasms yet. Either the cases are not real, have
been modified for presentation or the practitioners belief in their
methods is influencing outcome. The latter is something that I
believe happens a lot in energy medicine.
PS I repeat dry doses the time. Dare to break the 'rules' - you
may be surprised!
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Fran Sheffield
- Posts: 676
- Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:00 pm
Re: hello
Hello Robin,
Saturday, April 23, 2005, 11:54:05 PM, you wrote:
R> Has it ever been discussed on here how people manage to produce cases, often
R> more than one, of so many very unusual remedies? I have been in very busy
R> practice for over 20 years and would be unable to present a cured case of
R> Dulcamara, Cimicifuga, Rhus venenata, Crocus, Kali mur, Ferrum phos, Mag
R> sulph, Muriatic acid, Cenchris, Vespa, Asteria rubens to name a very few.
R> Not even a really convinscing case of Ant crud or Ambra grisea. yet
R> colleagues, may who have less experiencethan me continually roll out cases
R> of remedies we hadnt even heard of until 7 or 8 years ago. Whats this all
R> about? People prove a remedy like earthworm or something and then present 3
R> cases of it. Actually after 22 years Im not sure I would find a true
R> Aconite case in my files.
Hi Robin,
This is something I have also wondered about. For years I have
described myself as just a "bread and butter" homeopath because
polycrests are the mainstay of my practice. Exotic remedies are
prescribed occasionally and often not as successfully as I would like.
Bu-u-u-t, now I have a few miles under my belt it does not bother me
so much because my patients generally do very well on polycrests.
Perhaps it is better to know many facets of our more common remedies
rather than superficially understand a larger but more obscure number.
I take heart that Hahnemann did good work with a fraction of the
remedies we have at hand today. Does this mean we should not bother
studying new materia medica? No, but it is important not to spread the
icing too thinly on the cake for our years of experience.
I am also aware of the pressures on homeopaths when they enter greater
prominence. Kent fell victim to it when he synthesised symptoms at his
desk of compounds of existing remedies and allowed them to be
published as proving symptoms. The uproar created was lost with the
passage of time and these pseudo-provings entered our materia medicas
and repertories with most being unaware of their origin. Perhaps this
is why they have never worked for me. Homeopaths are still vulnerable
to the same pressures today - must be our egos.
In this country, Australia, I have heard it called "sexy" homeopathy -
where homeopathy is sexed up to maintain a reputation, create a
following, or impress students. Perhaps we need to look at the way we
approach our education and present our seminars. If
homeopaths/lecturers are encouraged to teach fantastical theories or
obscure images of remedies to draw a crowd or maintain student
interest, surely we are doing a disservice to homeopathy. Students
often seem to leave college with the impression that polycrest
prescribing is boring (shows you are not a real homeopath) and that
they should be bending over backwards in looking for the bizarre in
the commonplace.
Do I think that every homeopath who presents a new remedy or case is
guilty of this? No, but I have come to love the homeopaths who know
and strenuously teach the basics while cautiously advancing new
ideas, not vice versa.
--
Best regards,
Fran mailto:FranSheffield@ourimbah.com
Saturday, April 23, 2005, 11:54:05 PM, you wrote:
R> Has it ever been discussed on here how people manage to produce cases, often
R> more than one, of so many very unusual remedies? I have been in very busy
R> practice for over 20 years and would be unable to present a cured case of
R> Dulcamara, Cimicifuga, Rhus venenata, Crocus, Kali mur, Ferrum phos, Mag
R> sulph, Muriatic acid, Cenchris, Vespa, Asteria rubens to name a very few.
R> Not even a really convinscing case of Ant crud or Ambra grisea. yet
R> colleagues, may who have less experiencethan me continually roll out cases
R> of remedies we hadnt even heard of until 7 or 8 years ago. Whats this all
R> about? People prove a remedy like earthworm or something and then present 3
R> cases of it. Actually after 22 years Im not sure I would find a true
R> Aconite case in my files.
Hi Robin,
This is something I have also wondered about. For years I have
described myself as just a "bread and butter" homeopath because
polycrests are the mainstay of my practice. Exotic remedies are
prescribed occasionally and often not as successfully as I would like.
Bu-u-u-t, now I have a few miles under my belt it does not bother me
so much because my patients generally do very well on polycrests.
Perhaps it is better to know many facets of our more common remedies
rather than superficially understand a larger but more obscure number.
I take heart that Hahnemann did good work with a fraction of the
remedies we have at hand today. Does this mean we should not bother
studying new materia medica? No, but it is important not to spread the
icing too thinly on the cake for our years of experience.
I am also aware of the pressures on homeopaths when they enter greater
prominence. Kent fell victim to it when he synthesised symptoms at his
desk of compounds of existing remedies and allowed them to be
published as proving symptoms. The uproar created was lost with the
passage of time and these pseudo-provings entered our materia medicas
and repertories with most being unaware of their origin. Perhaps this
is why they have never worked for me. Homeopaths are still vulnerable
to the same pressures today - must be our egos.
In this country, Australia, I have heard it called "sexy" homeopathy -
where homeopathy is sexed up to maintain a reputation, create a
following, or impress students. Perhaps we need to look at the way we
approach our education and present our seminars. If
homeopaths/lecturers are encouraged to teach fantastical theories or
obscure images of remedies to draw a crowd or maintain student
interest, surely we are doing a disservice to homeopathy. Students
often seem to leave college with the impression that polycrest
prescribing is boring (shows you are not a real homeopath) and that
they should be bending over backwards in looking for the bizarre in
the commonplace.
Do I think that every homeopath who presents a new remedy or case is
guilty of this? No, but I have come to love the homeopaths who know
and strenuously teach the basics while cautiously advancing new
ideas, not vice versa.
--
Best regards,
Fran mailto:FranSheffield@ourimbah.com
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Liz Hennel
- Posts: 65
- Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:00 pm
Re: hello
Robin,
I would concur with Steve - some of the remedies you list are very familiar to me in my practice. But then again, There are SO MANY others I have never prescribed - maybe I will one day! I have prescribed some of teh newer remedies - a couple of cases have been wonderful in their responses. But more often I have been disappointed - what appeared to be a well-chosen remedy apparently wasn't. So - it looks like I will just have to work harder.
Liz
stevew872000 wrote:
Dear Robin,
It is a puzzle. I have been in practice for 29 years. According to
my records I have only prescribed about 900 remedies over all those
years. So many many remedies I have never seen a case of, or more
likely I have but got away with a remedy that was close enough in
its place. I think that is part of the problem. We just can't k
now all the remedies and we often can get away with something in the
ballpark.
Also I have often had the experience of learning a new remedy and
then seeing shortly after a person or a number of people needing the
remedy. Yes I may be seeing it because it is fresh in my mind, but
it works.
I have had good cases of about half the remedies you mentioned. I
also find that I have many many new cases of some of the new
remedies- some of the new remedies are rare ones and I have used
them once or twice but there are many new remedies that are common
remedies- especially many proved by Jeremy Sherr. I have hadmany
Hydrogen and Helium cases, a couple of Salmon , a couple of
Chocolate etc etc. And I have had a good dozen Bamboo cases. Some
of these remedies are extremely common patterns.
Steve Waldstein RSHom (NA) CCH PCH
Denver
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robin wrote:
some
cases, often
very busy
case of
phos, Mag
very few.
yet
out cases
this all
present 3
true
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I would concur with Steve - some of the remedies you list are very familiar to me in my practice. But then again, There are SO MANY others I have never prescribed - maybe I will one day! I have prescribed some of teh newer remedies - a couple of cases have been wonderful in their responses. But more often I have been disappointed - what appeared to be a well-chosen remedy apparently wasn't. So - it looks like I will just have to work harder.
Liz
stevew872000 wrote:
Dear Robin,
It is a puzzle. I have been in practice for 29 years. According to
my records I have only prescribed about 900 remedies over all those
years. So many many remedies I have never seen a case of, or more
likely I have but got away with a remedy that was close enough in
its place. I think that is part of the problem. We just can't k
now all the remedies and we often can get away with something in the
ballpark.
Also I have often had the experience of learning a new remedy and
then seeing shortly after a person or a number of people needing the
remedy. Yes I may be seeing it because it is fresh in my mind, but
it works.
I have had good cases of about half the remedies you mentioned. I
also find that I have many many new cases of some of the new
remedies- some of the new remedies are rare ones and I have used
them once or twice but there are many new remedies that are common
remedies- especially many proved by Jeremy Sherr. I have hadmany
Hydrogen and Helium cases, a couple of Salmon , a couple of
Chocolate etc etc. And I have had a good dozen Bamboo cases. Some
of these remedies are extremely common patterns.
Steve Waldstein RSHom (NA) CCH PCH
Denver
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robin wrote:
some
cases, often
very busy
case of
phos, Mag
very few.
yet
out cases
this all
present 3
true
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Nice one, Robin!
My patients taught me to break the rules a long time ago.
As my mother used to say " Rules are made for the blind observance of fools, and the guidance of wise men" - no idea who the originator of this quotation was - but I think he was right.
Liz
robin9168 wrote:
Hello Julian and others. This IS a busy place, Im glad I found it. I
have kept out of discussions for a long time because I find I often
end up at odds with a lot of current thought. The list of remedies
I quoted was a random list of fairly common remedies I have
prescribed without effect. There are MANY more. I have used
bucket loads of Rhust tox and Belladonna but wouldnt like to
present more than two cases of each to be properly scrutinised.
Thats after 22 years of busy practice. Im just puzzled at how
people decide to develope a theory about the Lanthanides or
dinosaur bones or something and produce cured cases within a
year of coming up with the idea. When I was a student I
accepted these things because I could put it doxn to the teachers
immense experience. Now that I have my own experience (and I
have always been very experimental and open minded) I find this
phenomenon puzzling. I actually stopped listening to all these
current teachers a few years ago because I felt things were
going too fast withoput being questioned. I havent even got my
head around 10 miasms yet. Either the cases are not real, have
been modified for presentation or the practitioners belief in their
methods is influencing outcome. The latter is something that I
believe happens a lot in energy medicine.
PS I repeat dry doses the time. Dare to break the 'rules' - you
may be surprised!
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My patients taught me to break the rules a long time ago.
As my mother used to say " Rules are made for the blind observance of fools, and the guidance of wise men" - no idea who the originator of this quotation was - but I think he was right.
Liz
robin9168 wrote:
Hello Julian and others. This IS a busy place, Im glad I found it. I
have kept out of discussions for a long time because I find I often
end up at odds with a lot of current thought. The list of remedies
I quoted was a random list of fairly common remedies I have
prescribed without effect. There are MANY more. I have used
bucket loads of Rhust tox and Belladonna but wouldnt like to
present more than two cases of each to be properly scrutinised.
Thats after 22 years of busy practice. Im just puzzled at how
people decide to develope a theory about the Lanthanides or
dinosaur bones or something and produce cured cases within a
year of coming up with the idea. When I was a student I
accepted these things because I could put it doxn to the teachers
immense experience. Now that I have my own experience (and I
have always been very experimental and open minded) I find this
phenomenon puzzling. I actually stopped listening to all these
current teachers a few years ago because I felt things were
going too fast withoput being questioned. I havent even got my
head around 10 miasms yet. Either the cases are not real, have
been modified for presentation or the practitioners belief in their
methods is influencing outcome. The latter is something that I
believe happens a lot in energy medicine.
PS I repeat dry doses the time. Dare to break the 'rules' - you
may be surprised!
ATTENTION PLEASE:
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