Depo Provera woes

[Ananda Ruchira]

hello All,
Here in Kenya, women are routinely given "injections" which I suppose is
Depo Provera. It's a 3-month birth control. From the stories I've heard
(clinics coercing / enticing women to use it) I would take a strong guess
that African women are being used as guinea pigs so that these companies
can say, ".... on human trial runs...."

Well, to the point. I get sooooooooo many women with problems, it's
unbelievable. These problems include:
• sterility, post-injection (months / years after going off it, still cant
get pregnant)
• continuous bleeding, while on it
• continuous bleeding, post-injection

Thanks.
Didi Ruchira
Abha Light
Can anyone give me a clue what I can do -- homeopathically or naturopathically?
I got one hint on the recent "Find the Remedy" -- aristolochia. Are there
any others?

[Shannon Nelson]

Folliculinum?
on 6/25/03 10:58 PM, Abha Light Foundation at abhalight@eudoramail.com
wrote:

[Rochelle]

Yes Depo is a problem . I had a patient who was told at age 24 tat she was going through early menopause after taking it. She was devastated. I treated her constitutionally, her periods returned and she has at least 1 child. I have lost touch now. I currently have one who did have amenorrhoea which I reversed with a constitutional remedy. A couple of years later she comes to me and tells me her periods have stopped but in the meantime has had a Depo injection. So far the constitutional remedy has not brought results but it usually takes a year to restore the periods after Depo anyway. I have her on Herbal Agnus Castus. I have recently noticed in my old college notes a combination remedy for woman who have had their periods mucked up by the pill .It is Avena Sativa MT/Frax MT/Lili.Tig 6x but I haven't tried it!!

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Marie Van Stokkum]

Dear Rochelle,
You wrote:
Yes Depo is a problem . I had a patient who was told at age 24 tat she was going through early menopause after taking it. She was devastated. I treated her constitutionally, her periods returned and she has at least 1 child. I have lost touch now. I currently have one who did have amenorrhoea which I reversed with a constitutional remedy. A couple of years later she comes to me and tells me her periods have stopped but in the meantime has had a Depo injection. So far the constitutional remedy has not brought results but it usually takes a year to restore the periods after Depo anyway. I have her on Herbal Agnus Castus. I have recently noticed in my old college notes a combination remedy for woman who have had their periods mucked up by the pill .It is Avena Sativa MT/Frax MT/Lili.Tig 6x but I haven't tried it!!

## The Gemmotherapy remedy Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary)has worked for my clients with pelvic conditions after Birth Control pills in conjunction with Constitutional Remedy (CR). One could administer the CR during the hiati in the Gemmo regimen. Start out with 10 drops, three times a day; gradualy increasing the amount to 30 drops (time frame of 45 days). Using a rhythm of 45 days on and 45 days off (= one cycle = the sum of: days off and days on), for a maximum of 14 cycles. Taking a substance continuously is not a good idea, hence the rhythm of off and on cycles. These are general guidelines, to be adjusted to the client. It is a great pelvic drainer. Dolisos carries Gemmotherapy Remedies. US: 1-800-365-4767.

There is one good text available in English on Gemmotherapy (Many in the French language): (US)you can call the author Dr. Marcus Greaves, MD at 858-550-0829 - email: SDMarcus@AOL.com - I have his permission - and order a copy of "Gemmotherapy and Oligotherapy. Regenerators of Dying Intoxicated Cells". It is probably available at Minimum Price, though I have not personally checked it out. I think the book is a great adjunct in any healing practitioners library. Just for the record, I am not getting any kick-back from this dissemination of information. I do believe that Gemmotherapies are a great way to drain the human organs of toxins. It is included in the BIH lesson structure. Up to now there has not been any text with enough information in English. I do have Max Tetau's "Gemmotherapy. A Clinical Guide", wonderful book, but not enough information.

We have cleared migraines and acne with this remedy and other pelvic complaints.
I have not had any clients post Depo Provera.
If anyone has further questions, please send them to me privately.

Warmly,
Marie Van Stokkum
Palm Springs, Ca

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[Patricia Hatherly]

I agree; 7c once a month for 3 months or until menses is re-established.
It's not in the Repertory but I've observed clinincally that "dreams of
menses" is a good indication for Folliculinum.

Patricia Hatherly

[Barbara *]

Hello Didi,

My teenage client had been on Dep Provera injections (two) after the Pill
didn't 'work' for her severe dysmenorrhea (unsurprisingly ..). Whilst I
appreciate this list is more classically-inclined I'm still think it might
be helpful to report that this worked for her:

Nux 12c at night
Puls 12c in morning
for 21 days

Her menses/PMS (which were horrendous affairs for her) stabilised &
regularised, and are now relatively pain-free (after only two cycles) -
which surprised me, as she had not only a huge med hx for herself (including
an o/d of paracetomol) - but also inherited from her mother (who was put on
antipsychotic drugs aged 10 ! ). I thought it would be hard work to unlock,
and looked at the sx in the BNF (below - half of dozen of which sx she
suffered), but it wasn't as intractable as I feared. Food for thought
anyway I hope.

BNF/Side effects: acne, urticaria, fluid retention, weight changes,
gastro-intenstinal disturbances, changes in libido, breast discomfort,
pre-menstrual symptoms, irregular menstrual cycles, also depression,
insomnia, somnolence, alopecia, hirsutism, anaphylactoid-like reaction,
rarely jaundice.

regards
Barbara
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:58:15 +0300
From: Abha Light Foundation
Subject: Re: Depo Provera woes

hello All,
Here in Kenya, women are routinely given "injections" which I suppose is
Depo Provera. It's a 3-month birth control. From the stories I've heard
(clinics coercing / enticing women to use it) I would take a strong
guess
that African women are being used as guinea pigs so that these companies
can say, ".... on human trial runs...."

Well, to the point. I get sooooooooo many women with problems, it's
unbelievable. These problems include:
• sterility, post-injection (months / years after going off it, still
cant
get pregnant)
• continuous bleeding, while on it
• continuous bleeding, post-injection

Thanks.
Didi Ruchira
Abha Light
Can anyone give me a clue what I can do -- homeopathically or
naturopathically?
I got one hint on the recent "Find the Remedy" -- aristolochia. Are
there
any others?

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[George Kaplan]

Dear Didi,

I have had very good results in treating women who have been subjected to
large amounts of hormonal treatment such as you describe, following the
advice given by Melissa Assilem FBIH in her book "Women Ripening Through the
Menopause". If you can look past the poetry and the Goddess references, it
is actually a very fine and useful book. One of the important remedies used
is Folliculinum, which I have used myself, as mentioned. If you can obtain a
copy of this book I am sure it would be of benefit.

Regards,
George A. Kaplan
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