Thanks Rosemary, Shannon, Wendy, and Sue --
I'm so sorry about your loss, Wendy, and I think your suggestion of having her research the side effects of methotrexate is excellent.
Pulsatilla was a remedy given early on, but to no apparent effect. Carcinosin much later; I expected it to help her sinusitis, but instead of stimulating a discharge, which it's done reliably in the past for patients showing signs of needing it, it had the opposite effect (Kali-bi. cleared the sinusitis). Interestingly, Colocynthis, which I gave for sciatica, made her feel profoundly uneasy and produced palpitations (in a 12c, single dose!), but did help the sciatica enormously.
Her treatment is not entirely free -- or I would be pulling out my hair! We're doing a barter arrangement, at least until her disability comes through. And what is she doing for me? If you can believe it, marketing! She is one of my biggest boosters, because homeopathy really has produced some small miracles for her, though her larger problems remain.
LMs probably are the way to go in a case like this, but I'm not used to working with them. And I confess to a certain reluctance to put her on anything that emulates her dosing schedule with allopathic meds, because that seems, to me, to send the message that she's dependent this for relief.
Thank you all again for your input and helpful ideas!
Peace,
Cinnabar
A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Thanks, Joy. I have thought of snakes, based largely on my subjective reaction to the Px. Interesting that you concluded she is distant from her children -- which is true, but not in my post (I referred to strained relations with her sibs). In fact, she has a daughter (pure Bar-c.) whom I recently treated -- and the client freaked because after the remedy her daughter actually got angry with a financial aid officer at her school, possibly jeopardizing her chances for a scholarship. In a case like that, we see a discharge of feeling as productive; the mom did not.
I'm definitely going to keep this repertorization in mind.
Peace,
Cinnabar
I'm definitely going to keep this repertorization in mind.
Peace,
Cinnabar
Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Dear Cinnabar
You seem to have done a good job until now - and for you now being aware of
a resistance against her - maybe it would be an option to pass her on to
another practitioner with the explanation that your expertise is not enough
to give her full relieve!?
Kindly
Almut
You seem to have done a good job until now - and for you now being aware of
a resistance against her - maybe it would be an option to pass her on to
another practitioner with the explanation that your expertise is not enough
to give her full relieve!?
Kindly
Almut
Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Oh Cinnabar,
I think I saw that patient before you lol
Seriously though, I had a patient about 3 years ago that was almost
identical to your description and I found myself going through
similar conflicts.
In the end, on her next appointment, I sat her down and reviewed the
last year of treatment with her (mine also had the habit of
sabotaging any remedy that was helping her, like taking more or less
than prescribed, or if I didn't give her more, she'd get it herself
from the homeopathic pharmacy etc) and asked her if she thought this
was successful. Initially she told me how much better she felt but
upon reflection (instigated by me) that probably not a lot has
changed. I then asked her if she thought that homeopathy could help
her and she was ademant that it could! So I then suggested that maybe
I don't have the objective view of her anymore (which was certainly
true!) and how she would feel about my refering her to a colleague of
mine, who would be able to see her "case" with fresh eyes.
I did feel like I was maybe just passing on the "problem" to somebody
else but also felt that my feelings of almost resentment where
getting in the way of an already very difficult process of treatment.
Needless to say she didn't like that idea at all. However, over the
next few appointments she became more open to the idea and in the end
she did agree to a referal. I don't know if she ever went to my
colleague beyond the first appointment, but I do know that I would
have done her a disservice if I had kept on seeing her and kept on
prescribing... I felt like I was "feeding" her pathology to a certain
extent by continuing to be her treating homeopath and hoped that
maybe the very different personality of my colleague may change the
dynamics to a point that treatment was even possible.
Good luck with your decisions/treatment!
Birgit
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "DMH" wrote:
patient with
you're in
hours; I
in the
replacement),
sudden
growths, and
spicy or
dose of
more sort
inimical
edema,
Hx of
(she's
been
yet I
resentful
and
deliberately
withdrawing
strapped,
but I
top
dollar.
more
patients
cause, the
I
keep
physical
and
her many
at
this
that she
CMO because
doesn't
since no
as a
herself),
and she
returning
me of
took
longer
Palladium
through to
made an
there's
homeopathy
doesn't even
if the
I think I saw that patient before you lol
Seriously though, I had a patient about 3 years ago that was almost
identical to your description and I found myself going through
similar conflicts.
In the end, on her next appointment, I sat her down and reviewed the
last year of treatment with her (mine also had the habit of
sabotaging any remedy that was helping her, like taking more or less
than prescribed, or if I didn't give her more, she'd get it herself
from the homeopathic pharmacy etc) and asked her if she thought this
was successful. Initially she told me how much better she felt but
upon reflection (instigated by me) that probably not a lot has
changed. I then asked her if she thought that homeopathy could help
her and she was ademant that it could! So I then suggested that maybe
I don't have the objective view of her anymore (which was certainly
true!) and how she would feel about my refering her to a colleague of
mine, who would be able to see her "case" with fresh eyes.
I did feel like I was maybe just passing on the "problem" to somebody
else but also felt that my feelings of almost resentment where
getting in the way of an already very difficult process of treatment.
Needless to say she didn't like that idea at all. However, over the
next few appointments she became more open to the idea and in the end
she did agree to a referal. I don't know if she ever went to my
colleague beyond the first appointment, but I do know that I would
have done her a disservice if I had kept on seeing her and kept on
prescribing... I felt like I was "feeding" her pathology to a certain
extent by continuing to be her treating homeopath and hoped that
maybe the very different personality of my colleague may change the
dynamics to a point that treatment was even possible.
Good luck with your decisions/treatment!
Birgit
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "DMH" wrote:
patient with
you're in
hours; I
in the
replacement),
sudden
growths, and
spicy or
dose of
more sort
inimical
edema,
Hx of
(she's
been
yet I
resentful
and
deliberately
withdrawing
strapped,
but I
top
dollar.
more
patients
cause, the
I
keep
physical
and
her many
at
this
that she
CMO because
doesn't
since no
as a
herself),
and she
returning
me of
took
longer
Palladium
through to
made an
there's
homeopathy
doesn't even
if the
Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Oh Cinnabar,
I think I saw that patient before you lol
Seriously though, I had a patient about 3 years ago that was almost
identical to your description and I found myself going through similar
conflicts. She also did well on Nat Mur (LMs) initially, but as soon as she
realized, she messed up her dosages ! At this point, instead of prescribing
on her renewed "sabotage" (she had the habit of sabotaging any remedy that
was helping her, like taking more or less than prescribed, or if I didn't
give her more, she'd get it herself from the homeopathic pharmacy etc) I
sat her down and reviewed the last year of treatment with her and asked her
if she thought this was successful. Initially she told me how much better
she felt but upon reflection (instigated by me) that probably not a lot has
changed. I then asked her if she thought that homeopathy could help her and
she was ademant that it could! So I then suggested that maybe I don't have
the objective view of her anymore (which was certainly true!) and how she
would feel about my refering her to a colleague of mine, who would be able
to see her "case" with fresh eyes. I did feel like I was maybe just passing
on the "problem" to somebody else but also felt that my feelings of almost
resentment where getting in the way of an already very difficult process of
treatment.
Needless to say she didn't like that idea at all. However, over the next few
appointments she became more open to the idea and in the end she did agree
to a referal. I don't know if she ever went to my colleague beyond the first
appointment, but I do know that I would have done her a disservice if I had
kept on seeing her and kept on prescribing... I felt like I was "feeding"
her pathology to a certain extent by continuing to be her treating homeopath
and hoped that maybe the very different personality of my colleague may
change the dynamics to a point that treatment was even possible.
Good luck with your decisions/treatment!
Birgit
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I think I saw that patient before you lol
Seriously though, I had a patient about 3 years ago that was almost
identical to your description and I found myself going through similar
conflicts. She also did well on Nat Mur (LMs) initially, but as soon as she
realized, she messed up her dosages ! At this point, instead of prescribing
on her renewed "sabotage" (she had the habit of sabotaging any remedy that
was helping her, like taking more or less than prescribed, or if I didn't
give her more, she'd get it herself from the homeopathic pharmacy etc) I
sat her down and reviewed the last year of treatment with her and asked her
if she thought this was successful. Initially she told me how much better
she felt but upon reflection (instigated by me) that probably not a lot has
changed. I then asked her if she thought that homeopathy could help her and
she was ademant that it could! So I then suggested that maybe I don't have
the objective view of her anymore (which was certainly true!) and how she
would feel about my refering her to a colleague of mine, who would be able
to see her "case" with fresh eyes. I did feel like I was maybe just passing
on the "problem" to somebody else but also felt that my feelings of almost
resentment where getting in the way of an already very difficult process of
treatment.
Needless to say she didn't like that idea at all. However, over the next few
appointments she became more open to the idea and in the end she did agree
to a referal. I don't know if she ever went to my colleague beyond the first
appointment, but I do know that I would have done her a disservice if I had
kept on seeing her and kept on prescribing... I felt like I was "feeding"
her pathology to a certain extent by continuing to be her treating homeopath
and hoped that maybe the very different personality of my colleague may
change the dynamics to a point that treatment was even possible.
Good luck with your decisions/treatment!
Birgit
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Wendy Howard
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Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Hi Cinnabar
Whenever I get patients that feed off my energy the way this one is doing to
you, I take a good look at the parasite remedies. There are a lot of
parasite themes in your patient's case.
Regards
Wendy
Whenever I get patients that feed off my energy the way this one is doing to
you, I take a good look at the parasite remedies. There are a lot of
parasite themes in your patient's case.
Regards
Wendy
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Hi Wendy,
What are the parasite remedies?
Shannon
on 6/2/03 9:48 AM, Wendy Howard at wendy@rachan.worldonline.co.uk wrote:
What are the parasite remedies?
Shannon
on 6/2/03 9:48 AM, Wendy Howard at wendy@rachan.worldonline.co.uk wrote:
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Wendy Howard
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Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
Shannon wrote:
Hi Shannon
Principally ...
Hirudo officinalis
Pediculus capitis
Pulex irritans
Cimex lectularia
Trombidium muscæ domesticæ
... but there are many plant and fungal parasites in the MM too like
Epiphegus, Viscum album.
Regards
Wendy
Hi Shannon
Principally ...
Hirudo officinalis
Pediculus capitis
Pulex irritans
Cimex lectularia
Trombidium muscæ domesticæ
... but there are many plant and fungal parasites in the MM too like
Epiphegus, Viscum album.
Regards
Wendy
Re: A Needy Patient, Lots of Meds
I want to thank everyone who responded to my posting about the needy patient. I've been out of town for a few days and haven't been able to reply, but I do want you all to know that your thoughtful comments have been most helpful. Hope springs eternal, I guess. I haven't decided precisely what to do but feel fortified for the encounter(s) ahead!
Peace,
Cinnabar
Peace,
Cinnabar