Remedy question

[George and Betty Dluzak]

Our Doctor has prescribed 200c in an 8 ounce bottle. Would that equal a 100c.

Would appreciate knowing where I could read about this on the internet.

Thanks, again, Betty
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[Rosemary Hyde]

Dear Betty,

Undoubtedly your doctor prescribed this potency and bottle size because it
appeared to match the strength of your vital force and your general
sensitivity to medicines. Homeopathic decisions about the strength of the
medicine, how it should be prepared, and the manner and frequency with which
it should be taken are almost as complex as deciding which remedy to take.
For each patient, these decisions are tailored individually, according to
the clues the patient has given the doctor.

200c in an 8 ounce bottle is just that -- 200 c in an 8 oz. bottle. The
size of the bottle will not change the potency.

I'm afraid I'm not aware of anyplace on line where you can find posted a
description of homeopathic potencies that's written for patients to
understand. Thanks for asking the question, since it brings up a topic that
will help people be better informed patients. I'll work on writing up an
answer, and get back to you, and also post it online. But it will take a
couple of weeks, since this project joins others waiting in line )

Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.

[Dave Hartley]

>Our Doctor has prescribed 200c in an 8 ounce bottle.

Not so..
not possible to reduce a potency, only to reduce the amount
(size) of dose (as is the case in your example)

Best source on the internet for reading about
liquid posology
(aka "Hahnemann's Advanced Methods" .. "water potency"
and to some as "split dose")

is David Little's site
http://www.simillimum.com

See section: The Little Library
subsections:

Great Homoeopaths
-Hahnemann's Advanced Methods

Homoeopathic Philosophy
-Homoeopathic Pharmaceutical Standards
-The Principles of Hahnemannian Homoeopathy, *The Guided Tour*
-The Minimal Dose (Similia Minimus)

Case Management
-A Concise Review of Remedy Reactions
-Adjusting the Size of the Dose
-Aggravations in Homoeopathy
-Hahnemann's Sensitivity Scale (§281)
-Solutions Large and Small (The Preparations of the Medicinal Solution)

As you go thru the material, you should feel free to ask more questions
on Minutus, there are surely others who have the same questions you
have.

At some point you might like to read Hahnemann's 6th (final) edition of
his Organon, which gives much of the basis of homeopathy, and includes
the answers to questions such as yours; albeit in a manner which
requires reading the whole book & building up the gestalt image of
Hahnemann's homeopathy in your mind. (A study group would help
Many, many homeopathic books including the Organon are available in full
online at
http://www.homeoint.org/english/index.htm (even more books are available
in French language)
Organon (English) is here:
http://www.homeoint.org/books/hahorgan/index.htm
warm regards,

Dave Hartley www.holistiq.com
San Francisco, CA (415)626-6390 cell(415)424-5644
www.localcomputermart.com/dave

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Betty,

Sounds like you need a site specifically aimed at people new to homeopathy.
There probably is one/are some, maybe someone has one to suggest...

But aside from that (and a better starting point!), you might ask your
homeopath if s/he has an introductory book s/he might loan you, or can
suggest one and a place to get it locally. There are a number of very good
introductory books, which would answer this question for you (the short
answer is "no"...), and be helpful and interesting in other ways too.
"Patient education" is an important topic, and it's a fascinating journey!

If you would like suggestions about books, and places you could get them
mailorder, just ask here -- that would be an easy question to answer! But
asking your homepath for suggestions might be an even better way to begin.

The advantage to reading a good book, rather than using an internet site, is
that you'll be getting an organized presentation, covering topics that you
wouldn't even know to ask about, but might love to hear the answers to.

Shannon
on 4/30/03 10:29 AM, George and Betty Dluzak at bettyzak@qnet.com wrote:

[David Little]

At 08:29 AM 4/30/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hello Betty,

I not sure you can find the answer to your question on the WWW. I
will try to help you. The potency and size of the dose are two different
factors. Making a potency is a pharmaceutical process that involves a
number of dilution and triturations or succussions. Dilutions are mixing
the original substance with a dilute. Titurations are the grinding up of
the medicinal substance with milk sugar and succussions are the banging of
the liquid solution on a hard but giving surface. Both of these processes
are an important part of potentization. The potency number describes the
dilution ratio (C = 1/100) and the number of times the process was carried
out (6, 30, 200). For example, a 6C potency means that the original
medicinal substance was diluted 600 times at a ratio of 1 to 100. The 200C
means that this process was carried in some fashion 200 times. The
pharmaceutical liquid is then dropped on tiny sugar pellets as a medium for
the administration of the remedy. The potency factor is effect by both
dilution and succussion.

There are two major ways to ways to use these pellets for ingestion by
the patient:

1. The dry dose. In this method Hahnemann suggested 1 or 2 pills to be
given to the patient in the mouth. Hahnemann used this method was used
throughout the 1820s. For a number of practical reasons Hahnemann decided
that this method was too limited of a delivery system for homoeopathy. He
then began to dissolve the small pellets in water in a number of different
ways. In 1833 he suggested the liquid dose was more suitable than the dry
dose.

2. By 1837 Hahnemann developed are more sophisticated method of giving
homoeopathic remedies. Now he took 1, more rarely 2, pills and dissolved
them in a bottle in a minimum of 7 to 8 tablespoons of water. This is
called the medicinal solution. This bottle is to be sucussed just prior to
administration to slightly raise the potency.

Now in either case (dry or liquid) the fundamental basis of the
pharmaceutical potency is not altered in a major way. A 200C pellet is
still a 200C pellet. Nevertheless, the potency has been fine tuned by
reducing the size of the dose in liquid and giving the bottle a few
succussions prior to administration. In the case of the medicinal solution
1 pill is diluted in the larger amount of water and given as a split-dose
in a teaspoon or teaspoons. This makes the remedy act more gently and
deeper on the vital force. At the same time, the liquid dose and
succussions prior to ingestion mildly altered the potency of the remedy
upward. It does not become a lower potency like the 100C. It becomes a
slightly higher potency that may be called the 200C + the number of
succussions. For example if a 200C was sucussed 5 times before each dose
and given in three times this would make - 200C + 5; 200C +10; and 200C +
15. This "plusings" only slightly raises the potency factor within the
range of the original pharmaceutical process.

The dilution and succussion of the pellets are parts of the methods
called *adjusting the dose*. These methods are used to fine tune the
remedial powers making the remedy more suitable for the individual
according to their sensitivity and condition. The amount of dilute used to
make the medicinal solution can vary from 7 to 40 tablespoons. More water
makes the remedy act more gentle. The size of the dose (the amount of
medicine) can be raised and lowered. An increase in the number of the pills
increase the size of the dose dramatically. An increase in the number of
teaspoons slightly increase the remedial power. At the same time, there is
a possibility of increasing or lowering the number of succussions. More
succussions increase the kinetic energy of the remedy. Nevertheless,
adjusting the remedy does not change the fundamental number of the base
pharmaceutical potency like a 200C.

I hope this sheds some light this area.
Sincerely, David Little
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
http://www.simillimum.com
David Little © 2000

[Jean Doherty]

Sorry ,should have opened the web site Rochelle gave where details are
given, Jean

[Ellen Madono]

This is a repost that I saw lost in political railing. I am posting my answer as well.

Guess the remedy
I know most people are afraid of rare remedies. But here is an extremely useful rare remedy can you guess what remedy it is?
It assists in dissolving uric acid and favors elimination of same. We think of it in gout and rheumatism where there is excess of uric acid in urine, gravel, cystic irritation, the result of pressure of renal sand. It is directly indicated where there is an uneasy sensation in the loins extending to the bladder, earthy phosphates, gravel, uric acid deposits in the urine, a feeling of fullness and tension in the region of the perineum, frequent desire to micturate, with difficulty in passing urine.
Best regards
Elham
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I am studying Kidneys by Blackwood now, so I was interested in your question Elham. Thank-you.
1 I looked up some vocabualary on the net first:
Earthy phosphates: alkaline consisting of magnesium, ammonium and phosphate. A dirty yellow color with more froth than is usual.
Wondered about the color of earthy phosphates https://collections.nlm.nih.gov/ext/dw/ ... 227624.pdf Pale yellow with fetid order or cloudy.
I used keywords like renal sand in the same sentence as gout searching the literature. In a real case, I would probably be searching the repertory, but I was not bringing up the remedy just using rubrics.
The first rx lacks the tension in the loins.
Epigea repens [Epig.]
This beautiful plant - the trailing Arbutus - around which clusters so much poetry and sentiment, has been used for very non - poetic purposes. Medicinally, it is an analogue of Uva ursi, Mitchella, Chimaphila, Cannabis, and others of that class. No provings have been made of it, but it has been used ever since the settlement of this country, as a popular remedy in renal calculi, or those conditions supposed to arise from the presence of "gravel." It has been successful in the removal of dysuria and strangury, as well as urinary tenesmus. It seems best adapted to the uric acid calculi. I once used it in a case of that nature; the urine had a bloody, muco - purulent sediment, and there was intense dysuria. After taking the tincture in 10 - drop doses, six times a day, a copious deposit of fine brown sand (uric acid crystals) was observed, followed by amelioration of all the urinary troubles.
This seems like the right one. Lithum-c also comes up in repping. Really glad to see your interpretation. "
"It acts upon the urine before it leaves the blood." This is dissolving uric acid?
LITHIUM BENZOICUM Murphy
(Lithium Benzoate)
PHARMACY - lith-be. Lithium benzoicum. Lithium benzoate. Historical dose: All potencies.
CLINICAL - Gallstones. Uric acid, deposits.
HOMEOPATHIC - Hale quoted T. O. Summers as saying that Lith-be. had great effect in diminishing uric acid deposits and increasing the free hippuric acid of the urine. "It acts upon the urine before it leaves the blood."
Deep-seated pains in loins in small of back. Uneasiness in bladder. Frequent desire. Bladder irritation. Diminishing uric acid. Gallstones.
REFERENCES - Boericke. Clarke.

My understanding is use the rare remedy when the polycrests don't work. There are so many, memorizing what does what is impossible. You have to be able to find it by repping. What's the trick?

Best,
Ellen Madono