cruel people-more questions

[jpgregorich@aol.com]

In a message dated 1/25/03 12:59:17 AM Mountain Standard Time,
dave@localcomputermart.com writes:
Dave,

While I agree that a "small" one time cruel act may not be characteristic in
a case at a given time, I still believe that any act of cruelty is indeed
pathological and therefore, at some point, is something that ultimately must
be cured. It is part of the diseased state. It is part of the totality of
symptoms.

Given a case that has yielded an incredibly curative result, that is, the
individual is clear of all physical as well as mental and emotional
limitations, but still has this small element of cruelty. At this
penultimate state of health, this small symptom becomes fully characteristic
of the case.

Now come the questions, given the points raised by Andrew.

Does the footnote to 210 imply that Hahnemann truly thought this was a state
of health? Or was he just setting up the fact that while the physical
symptoms may be gone, these mental/emotional symptoms must also be included
in considering the diseased state. I must admit that reading the footnote
alone is very confusing relative to reading the main paragraphs 210-230.

Since there are no physical symptoms is this not curable by homeopathy? I am
of the belief that while there are instances where homeopathy cannot cure, it
can certainly help (palliate). Is there any situation where homeopathy
cannot be of help? Broken bones, and mangled bodies may require setting and
suturing but even in these instances homeopathy can be helpful.

Can someone be cruel without there being a disturbance of the vital force?
"Being happy" with one's state of cruelty is an inadequate answer. Hitler
was happy in his cruelty.

Any thoughts?
Jim Gregorich
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[Phosphor]

"Being happy" with one's state of cruelty is an >inadequate answer. Hitler
was happy in his cruelty.

a person who is *naturally* cruel is disarrayed in his moral order. what
does this have to do with the VF?

Andrew

[Shannon Nelson]

Interesting questions...
But what determines the "moral order"?
If you are seeing it as separate from Vital Force, would that mean you as
seeing it as a quality of either the soul or the "hardwiring" of the body?

Shannon
on 1/25/03 6:11 PM, Phosphor at phosphor@hotkey.net.au wrote:

[Rosemary Hyde]

Re Hitler, the New York Times recently reviewed a book called "Pox" about
famous people in history whose medical records clearly show that they almost
certainly were suffering from active tertiary syphilis, although the word
had not been put into the records because of its damaging image. Among
these public figures was Hitler. So was he "happy in his cruelty?" Or was
he suffering from a syphilitic state?

Rosemary Hyde

[Phosphor]

as a homeopath, i can't say, it's outside our field.

seeing it as a quality of either the soul or the >"hardwiring" of the body?

i see it as the former. But again, for a homeopath all is necessary to state
is that it is not the VF.

if you look at medicine in ancient greece, along with dietetics, exercise
and herbs, theatre was considered a primary branch of healing, by inducing
emotional catharsis. homeopaths have discovered the existence of the VF [or
re-worked the concept of pranic body from ayurveda maybe] but it doesnt make
a lot of sense for this newcomer to displace the other healing methods,
which are addressing other parts of the organism. if homeopahy was the only
healing method then no one was healed since the dawn of time until Hn came
along.

if all you have is a hammer..as the saying goes.

andrew
Shannon
on 1/25/03 6:11 PM, Phosphor at phosphor@hotkey.net.au wrote:

force?
Hitler
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[Shannon Nelson]

Well, definitely food for thought.
Just FTR, I'd assume that if in some person a quality such as cruelty *is*
of the soul, that it will be reflected also in "hardwiring"; brain lesion
(i.e. something observably different from usual, at chemical and/or physical
level), or some such thing. Just my assumption.

Shannon
on 1/26/03 3:51 PM, Phosphor at phosphor@hotkey.net.au wrote: