Hello everyone
I wonder if anyone has any materia medica on the above two remedies.
Thank you in advance.
Karen
PLUTONIUM/RAD BROM
Re: PLUTONIUM/RAD BROM
Hi Karen
Don't have anything on plutonium in homeopathic file on computer but have
this on radium bromatum
Regards
Beverly Shamon-Turner
INDICATED REMEDIES
RADIATION
Don't have anything on plutonium in homeopathic file on computer but have
this on radium bromatum
Regards
Beverly Shamon-Turner
INDICATED REMEDIES
RADIATION
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: PLUTONIUM/RAD BROM
from homeopathic links, winter 1995
these are the generals and mind as well as proving symptoms. the article was too long to copy at once
Plutonium metallicum
In the proving of Plutonium (11 provers, one dose of C30 or C200, all aware of what was being tested), the following groups of symptoms or themes could be established (see also Fig. 1):
- Feeling of extreme gravity
- Fatigue, exhaustion
- Feeling of decay, disintegration into different identities
- Permanent feeling of existential threat
- Spontaneous reckless aggressiveness
- Deep religious feeling or philosophical thoughts
A number of provers put things in order; others started to clearly follow their own intuition; their confidence in their personal activity increased.
The above symptom groups became more and more apparent during the proving and served as a guideline in the more than 70 cases where we prescribed Plutonium.
Feeling of extreme gravity
- which presses down and which could even push through the floor (1)
- wish to lay down on one's back and on the floor (1)
- feeling as if having put on 20 kilos over night (5)
- body seems to be like lead (5)
- the head is very heavy, like an enormous weight; has trouble keeping his head upright, he has to support it so that it doesn't fall (4)
- holds his head with both hands at his temples and his forehead, only his little fingers touch each other (1, 4)
- feels the weight of his body/the pull of gravity (2)
- notices that the earth sticks to him, annoyed that he depends on earth to that extent (2)
Fatigue, exhaustion
- continuous attacks of fatigue, but they disappear quickly (2)
- fatigue (5, 2)
- paralysing fatigue (6)
- work takes a lot of effort (5, 2)
- lack of enthusiasm (5)
Feeling of decay, disintegration into different identities (1)
- the prover feels that he changes identity depending on where he is and whom he is with (1)
Permanent feeling of existential threat (1, 2)
- fears his own defeat, if he dared to insist on his own will and inclination (1)
- notices a worrying and menacing pressure he cannot deal with when he is with people (2)
- sad that she cannot live as she would like, feeling of too much obligation/constraint (3)
- fear of ecological catastrophes (1, 2)
Spontaneous reckless aggressiveness; the prover would like to clear her way of people who are driving slowly in front of her, showing no compassion. The prover felt like a machine with a fixed speed that wouldn't accept any obstacle. (11)
Phylosophical / Religious
Deep religious feeling (1, 2, 6)
Philosophical thoughts (1, 2, 6)
The provers 1, 2, 7 and 9 put things in order after having taken the medicine.
The provers 1, 2, 6, 8, 9 and 10 clearly follow their own intuition more; their confidence in their personal activity increases.
The number(s) following each symptom correspond(s) to individual provers.
Fig. 1 Symptom Groups of the Plutonium Proving
The central idea of plutonium
is the sacrifice of the own inner way/destiny or the suppression and blocking of one's inner human powers. Consequently man is not able to learn about his destiny. His essence/being ('atomic nucleus') decays into various personalities ("multiple personality", a topical term in psychotherapy). These different personalities stand for various constraints and they become apparent as masks or different roles which the individual tries anxiously and compulsively to fulfil. Therefore strong efforts are made to compensate/to hide this decay.
High ideals and relapses into chronic exhaustion (chronic fatigue syndrome), depression and feelings of inferiority result from this disintegration. A further attempt to stop decline and decay is an increased sense of responsibility, such as children who try to prevent the family from disintegrating. When essence/being decays, extreme tension and feelings of panic can emerge. Those around perceive this as 'unshakeable will', outbursts of reckless aggression or severe depression. Clinically, we were able to observe the curing of auto aggression diseases, asthma, heavy menstrual bleeding, anorexia, chronic fatigue syndrome, hypertension, neurodermatitis, multiple allergies and hypersensitivities, immobilising sacroiliac pains, severe gastro-enteritis with menacing exsiccation, psychosis of a 13 year-old boy with the delusion: 'every adult, parents included, is a teacher.'
We think that the Plutonium disease can be cured if we admit with confidence the often painful disintegration of masks and roles, and if we abandon expectations, constraints and moral ideas about how life ought to be. Instead we need to accept being as it is and return to our essence, that is to say to move from strict ideas about being into conscious being itself.
Plutonium register of symptoms
Symptoms of mind and temper
1) Decay and disintegration
- Feeling of decay and disintegration into different identities (1);
- the prover felt clearly that he changed identity depending on where he was and whom he was with. (1)
2) Threat and fear
- permanent feeling of existential threat (1, 2)
- fears his own defeat if he dares to insist on his personal will and inclination (1)
- intense sacralgia forces him to walk on all fours. The candidate feels like an animal (dog) or like a disrespected little child who is not yet able to walk upright and who is not integrated. This feeling of disregard is conveyed/created by his brothers and sisters.
- annoyed that he is abandoned with his pain
[Plutonium-topic: the hurt child; as for the adults, their inner child is hurt. Furthermore children are often exposed to superior adults and consequently not able to get their own way.]
3) Obligation and expectation
- sad that she cannot live as she likes, feeling of too much obligation (3)
- the feeling of being externally forced to keep on going and to do all kinds of things; she feels too much is asked of her (3)
[This prover had also a series of dreams in which she expected things or reactions from other people which she didn't get; even while dreaming she realised that her expectations were not justified. Thus, this attitude of expectation is only the counterpart or complement to obligation. We often found the symptom of feeling obliged to meet the expectations and obligations of one's environment coupled with very high expectations towards one's surrounding]
- more defence towards moral and obligation (2,3)
4) Fears
- fear of falling ill, the prover's fear of getting cancer improved (11)
- fear of having a slipped disc with sacralgia (2)
- fear of ecological catastrophes (1,2)
- state of panic (various times clinically cured)
- claustrophobia with state of panic, e.g. in an aeroplane (various clinical cures)
5) Aggression
- spontaneous reckless aggression; the prover would like to clear her way of people who are driving slowly in front of her, without showing compassion. The prover felt like a machine with a fixed speed that wouldn't accept any obstacle. (11)
- aggressive fantasies; the prover had fantasies about what would happen if he threw his own son over the bridge or if he went at full speed by car through the pedestrian precinct.(2)
6) Sadness and weeping
- extreme weeping (2)
- weeping because of extreme pains in the sacrum area (2)
- weeping because of physical pain develops into weeping because of emotional pain (2)
- sadness is improving in the presence of others (6)
- sad, quiet; if alone a profound introverted feeling (2)
7) Restlessness, memory, concentration
- restlessness (1,4,5)
- restlessness; doesn't find any place, or position in which he could relax, is hanging with his stomach over a chair (1)
- restless walking around (1)
- higher mental lucidity and better concentration (2,10)
- commits writing mistakes, mixes letters up (2)
- forgets nicknames of his closest relations linked with an improved general mental performance and ability to learn (2)
8) Relationship
- relationship disturbances (2)
- notices more distance between him and his wife (2)
- he reproaches his wife (2)
- sensation that he gets love and affection for granted makes the prover very happy (1)
- feeling that he can allow other people more space when he meets them (10)
9) Order and work
- puts things in order (1,11,2,7,9)
- buys new files (7); feeling that she is keeping too many things in her old files
- he enjoys tidying things up, doesn't feel obliged to do so as he would normally feel (11)
- high degree of willingness to work (11,2)
- he feels more like working (2,9)
- dislike of work (2)
- performed immediately all tasks that required to have been done for a long time (2,9)
- more determined and active, he is in a good mood (2,9)
- missed an appointment by oversleeping (5); (which had never happened to the prover before)
- dislike of attending patients, would be happy if some of them cancelled their visit (2)
10) Intuition, own will and expression, philosophy and religion
- more confidence in his (own) intuition and activity (1,2,6,8,9,10)
- feels more self-assertion (10) e.g. prover realises that it is the person working for him who has to meet his (the prover's) requirements, and not vice versa
- increased determination (10)
- full of energy (2,5,8)
- intense, religious feeling (2,1,6)
- more balanced, calmer, more patient (8)
- calmer, less irritated/annoyed being with his family (9)
- within the proving period prover 1 takes the decision to go to New York together with his double-bass, wishing to practice his favourite music style, improvisational music, at Cecil Taylors and there he develops a strong passion for Sufi-literature.
Generalities
- feeling of extreme gravity which presses down and which could even push through the floor (1)
- wish to lay down on one's back and on the floor (1)
- feeling as if having put on 20 kilos over night (5)
- body seems to be like lead (5)
- feels the weight of his body and the gravitational pull (2)
- notices that earth is sticking to him, annoyed that he depends on earth to that extent (2)
- continuous attacks of fatigue, but they disappear quickly (2)
- fatigue (5, 2)
- paralysing fatigue (6)
- work takes a lot of effort (5, 2)
- feeling of heat with increasing restlessness at night which prevents him from sleeping, slight perspiration in his face (2)
- feeling of having goose pimples: shivers, cold spells creep down his spine every few seconds; they stop at the end of the lumbar region (4) (describes the shivers as slight electric shocks)
- his whole body is shivering (6)
- he/she is cold (7)
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these are the generals and mind as well as proving symptoms. the article was too long to copy at once
Plutonium metallicum
In the proving of Plutonium (11 provers, one dose of C30 or C200, all aware of what was being tested), the following groups of symptoms or themes could be established (see also Fig. 1):
- Feeling of extreme gravity
- Fatigue, exhaustion
- Feeling of decay, disintegration into different identities
- Permanent feeling of existential threat
- Spontaneous reckless aggressiveness
- Deep religious feeling or philosophical thoughts
A number of provers put things in order; others started to clearly follow their own intuition; their confidence in their personal activity increased.
The above symptom groups became more and more apparent during the proving and served as a guideline in the more than 70 cases where we prescribed Plutonium.
Feeling of extreme gravity
- which presses down and which could even push through the floor (1)
- wish to lay down on one's back and on the floor (1)
- feeling as if having put on 20 kilos over night (5)
- body seems to be like lead (5)
- the head is very heavy, like an enormous weight; has trouble keeping his head upright, he has to support it so that it doesn't fall (4)
- holds his head with both hands at his temples and his forehead, only his little fingers touch each other (1, 4)
- feels the weight of his body/the pull of gravity (2)
- notices that the earth sticks to him, annoyed that he depends on earth to that extent (2)
Fatigue, exhaustion
- continuous attacks of fatigue, but they disappear quickly (2)
- fatigue (5, 2)
- paralysing fatigue (6)
- work takes a lot of effort (5, 2)
- lack of enthusiasm (5)
Feeling of decay, disintegration into different identities (1)
- the prover feels that he changes identity depending on where he is and whom he is with (1)
Permanent feeling of existential threat (1, 2)
- fears his own defeat, if he dared to insist on his own will and inclination (1)
- notices a worrying and menacing pressure he cannot deal with when he is with people (2)
- sad that she cannot live as she would like, feeling of too much obligation/constraint (3)
- fear of ecological catastrophes (1, 2)
Spontaneous reckless aggressiveness; the prover would like to clear her way of people who are driving slowly in front of her, showing no compassion. The prover felt like a machine with a fixed speed that wouldn't accept any obstacle. (11)
Phylosophical / Religious
Deep religious feeling (1, 2, 6)
Philosophical thoughts (1, 2, 6)
The provers 1, 2, 7 and 9 put things in order after having taken the medicine.
The provers 1, 2, 6, 8, 9 and 10 clearly follow their own intuition more; their confidence in their personal activity increases.
The number(s) following each symptom correspond(s) to individual provers.
Fig. 1 Symptom Groups of the Plutonium Proving
The central idea of plutonium
is the sacrifice of the own inner way/destiny or the suppression and blocking of one's inner human powers. Consequently man is not able to learn about his destiny. His essence/being ('atomic nucleus') decays into various personalities ("multiple personality", a topical term in psychotherapy). These different personalities stand for various constraints and they become apparent as masks or different roles which the individual tries anxiously and compulsively to fulfil. Therefore strong efforts are made to compensate/to hide this decay.
High ideals and relapses into chronic exhaustion (chronic fatigue syndrome), depression and feelings of inferiority result from this disintegration. A further attempt to stop decline and decay is an increased sense of responsibility, such as children who try to prevent the family from disintegrating. When essence/being decays, extreme tension and feelings of panic can emerge. Those around perceive this as 'unshakeable will', outbursts of reckless aggression or severe depression. Clinically, we were able to observe the curing of auto aggression diseases, asthma, heavy menstrual bleeding, anorexia, chronic fatigue syndrome, hypertension, neurodermatitis, multiple allergies and hypersensitivities, immobilising sacroiliac pains, severe gastro-enteritis with menacing exsiccation, psychosis of a 13 year-old boy with the delusion: 'every adult, parents included, is a teacher.'
We think that the Plutonium disease can be cured if we admit with confidence the often painful disintegration of masks and roles, and if we abandon expectations, constraints and moral ideas about how life ought to be. Instead we need to accept being as it is and return to our essence, that is to say to move from strict ideas about being into conscious being itself.
Plutonium register of symptoms
Symptoms of mind and temper
1) Decay and disintegration
- Feeling of decay and disintegration into different identities (1);
- the prover felt clearly that he changed identity depending on where he was and whom he was with. (1)
2) Threat and fear
- permanent feeling of existential threat (1, 2)
- fears his own defeat if he dares to insist on his personal will and inclination (1)
- intense sacralgia forces him to walk on all fours. The candidate feels like an animal (dog) or like a disrespected little child who is not yet able to walk upright and who is not integrated. This feeling of disregard is conveyed/created by his brothers and sisters.
- annoyed that he is abandoned with his pain
[Plutonium-topic: the hurt child; as for the adults, their inner child is hurt. Furthermore children are often exposed to superior adults and consequently not able to get their own way.]
3) Obligation and expectation
- sad that she cannot live as she likes, feeling of too much obligation (3)
- the feeling of being externally forced to keep on going and to do all kinds of things; she feels too much is asked of her (3)
[This prover had also a series of dreams in which she expected things or reactions from other people which she didn't get; even while dreaming she realised that her expectations were not justified. Thus, this attitude of expectation is only the counterpart or complement to obligation. We often found the symptom of feeling obliged to meet the expectations and obligations of one's environment coupled with very high expectations towards one's surrounding]
- more defence towards moral and obligation (2,3)
4) Fears
- fear of falling ill, the prover's fear of getting cancer improved (11)
- fear of having a slipped disc with sacralgia (2)
- fear of ecological catastrophes (1,2)
- state of panic (various times clinically cured)
- claustrophobia with state of panic, e.g. in an aeroplane (various clinical cures)
5) Aggression
- spontaneous reckless aggression; the prover would like to clear her way of people who are driving slowly in front of her, without showing compassion. The prover felt like a machine with a fixed speed that wouldn't accept any obstacle. (11)
- aggressive fantasies; the prover had fantasies about what would happen if he threw his own son over the bridge or if he went at full speed by car through the pedestrian precinct.(2)
6) Sadness and weeping
- extreme weeping (2)
- weeping because of extreme pains in the sacrum area (2)
- weeping because of physical pain develops into weeping because of emotional pain (2)
- sadness is improving in the presence of others (6)
- sad, quiet; if alone a profound introverted feeling (2)
7) Restlessness, memory, concentration
- restlessness (1,4,5)
- restlessness; doesn't find any place, or position in which he could relax, is hanging with his stomach over a chair (1)
- restless walking around (1)
- higher mental lucidity and better concentration (2,10)
- commits writing mistakes, mixes letters up (2)
- forgets nicknames of his closest relations linked with an improved general mental performance and ability to learn (2)
8) Relationship
- relationship disturbances (2)
- notices more distance between him and his wife (2)
- he reproaches his wife (2)
- sensation that he gets love and affection for granted makes the prover very happy (1)
- feeling that he can allow other people more space when he meets them (10)
9) Order and work
- puts things in order (1,11,2,7,9)
- buys new files (7); feeling that she is keeping too many things in her old files
- he enjoys tidying things up, doesn't feel obliged to do so as he would normally feel (11)
- high degree of willingness to work (11,2)
- he feels more like working (2,9)
- dislike of work (2)
- performed immediately all tasks that required to have been done for a long time (2,9)
- more determined and active, he is in a good mood (2,9)
- missed an appointment by oversleeping (5); (which had never happened to the prover before)
- dislike of attending patients, would be happy if some of them cancelled their visit (2)
10) Intuition, own will and expression, philosophy and religion
- more confidence in his (own) intuition and activity (1,2,6,8,9,10)
- feels more self-assertion (10) e.g. prover realises that it is the person working for him who has to meet his (the prover's) requirements, and not vice versa
- increased determination (10)
- full of energy (2,5,8)
- intense, religious feeling (2,1,6)
- more balanced, calmer, more patient (8)
- calmer, less irritated/annoyed being with his family (9)
- within the proving period prover 1 takes the decision to go to New York together with his double-bass, wishing to practice his favourite music style, improvisational music, at Cecil Taylors and there he develops a strong passion for Sufi-literature.
Generalities
- feeling of extreme gravity which presses down and which could even push through the floor (1)
- wish to lay down on one's back and on the floor (1)
- feeling as if having put on 20 kilos over night (5)
- body seems to be like lead (5)
- feels the weight of his body and the gravitational pull (2)
- notices that earth is sticking to him, annoyed that he depends on earth to that extent (2)
- continuous attacks of fatigue, but they disappear quickly (2)
- fatigue (5, 2)
- paralysing fatigue (6)
- work takes a lot of effort (5, 2)
- feeling of heat with increasing restlessness at night which prevents him from sleeping, slight perspiration in his face (2)
- feeling of having goose pimples: shivers, cold spells creep down his spine every few seconds; they stop at the end of the lumbar region (4) (describes the shivers as slight electric shocks)
- his whole body is shivering (6)
- he/she is cold (7)
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Dave Hartley
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Re: PLUTONIUM/RAD BROM
Radium Bromatum should be in practically any MM you pick up, including
Boericke.
For those who haven't any materia medica handy, there is a wealth of MM
available online, at the site facilitated by Sylvain Cazalet, webmaster
of homeoint.org
www.homeoint.org
Plutoninum nitricum, on the other hand, is a new remedy -the proving is
available from Jeremy Sher's Dynamis School
http://www.dynamis.edu/dynPublications.htm
Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)464-8127
Boericke.
For those who haven't any materia medica handy, there is a wealth of MM
available online, at the site facilitated by Sylvain Cazalet, webmaster
of homeoint.org
www.homeoint.org
Plutoninum nitricum, on the other hand, is a new remedy -the proving is
available from Jeremy Sher's Dynamis School
http://www.dynamis.edu/dynPublications.htm
Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)464-8127
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Eleana Needham
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Re: PLUTONIUM/RAD BROM
Hi Karen
Re Plutonium and Rad Brom, I can direct you to two excellent books:
for Plutonium the "Meditative Provings" of Madeline Evans, The Rose Press,
UK, 2000 ed., ISBN 0-9538880-0-2
for Rad Brom, Prisma by Frans Vermeulen, Emryss Publishers, Netherlands,
2002 ed., ISBN 90-76189-07-2
Both are wonderful books to grace any homoeopath's library and I recommend
them very warmly. If however, you need more immediate help, I'll be happy
to post the MM here for you
Regards
Eleana
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Re Plutonium and Rad Brom, I can direct you to two excellent books:
for Plutonium the "Meditative Provings" of Madeline Evans, The Rose Press,
UK, 2000 ed., ISBN 0-9538880-0-2
for Rad Brom, Prisma by Frans Vermeulen, Emryss Publishers, Netherlands,
2002 ed., ISBN 90-76189-07-2
Both are wonderful books to grace any homoeopath's library and I recommend
them very warmly. If however, you need more immediate help, I'll be happy
to post the MM here for you
Regards
Eleana
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