Hi Nancy,
I'm interested to hear you say you've seen aggravations from cell salts.
Could you say more about it? E.g., were they being used instead of or in
conjunction with a higher potency rx, and could this have had any part in
the agg? I recall one lecturer saying that she would sometimes use cell
salts as placebo -- if the patient seemed to really need something to "keep
taking" -- but she said she would carefully choose one that had *nothing* to
do with the case, and no connection with the remedy. My understanding was
that she felt there was a risk of interfering with the action of the remedy,
but I don't know if that was based on any experiences she had, or
assumption, or what...
Also, have you used cell salts in lactose intolerant patients, any remarks
on that?
Thanks!
Shannon
on 1/6/03 9:02 AM, Nancy Siciliana at nasiciliana@hotmail.com wrote:
Cell Salts [was: Single remedy]
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Re: Cell Salts [was: Single remedy]
Hi Shannon,
Hmm...where do I start...one case which stands out for me involves a 78 year old woman who was suffering from breaking, crumbling teeth and a very slow forming abcess which took a long time to clear (3 to 5 days). I gave her a silica tissue salt, with express instructions to take one 3-tablet dose a day, and no more. Of course, she read the directions printed on the bottle--to take 4 pills, 4 times a day--and followed those. She took 3 doses and went to bed, then awoke a couple of hours later with a massive left sided abcess and an equally massive right sided abcess which had just popped up--both extremely painful and so frightening they forced her into the dentist's chair for an emergency visit...resulting in anti-biotic prescriptions and an understandable mistrust of homeopathic medicine. I would say that was quite an aggravation. They were not being used with any other medication (no homeopathic remedy, and no allopathics were used).
I would never use cell salts as a placebo--but I often consider their use in cases where I want to "buy some time" so that I can get a clear picture of what is going on in the case. They can be very supportive this way, especially if they are addressing what is evidently a nutritional deficiency. For example: I have a 95 year old patient who suffers from eczema and partial paralysis of the legs and hands. On inspection of her skin, I noticed that there were great purple-red splotches from burst capillaries all over her arms, especially around her joints. The integrity of those blood vessels was really compromised...so I put her on a daily dose of calc phos cell salts to help increase their elasticity. Over the course of the last 2 months, the daily dose has really helped. The skin is much less bruised looking because those splotches have disappeared. In the meantime, I was treating her with homeopathic remedies which were intended to address the larger issues--the mental/emotional state she was in, the eczema, the nightly pains she suffered. I went through a number of remedies: calc carb, arsenicum, and finally baryta carb, which really fit the case much more closely than the other two, despite the improvements that were made with the initial remedy prescriptions. As her skin cleared of the blotches, her circulation improved; her symptoms became much clearer and the ability to describe them also improved...and that lead to the prescription for the baryta carb, the most helpful remedy.
I'm quite sure all the cell salts have undergone provings, though they are prepared in a slightly different way from homeopathic remedies--therefore it is very possible that different people will react to them if they are sensitive individuals. I would never use them as placebos, but I would not hesitate to use them for patients who need the nutritional boost they can give (eg. its way better to prescribe a cell salt to a patient when they are feeling run down and flu-ish than to tell them to go out and get some echinacea, in my experience. They feel better much more quickly). When they are used this way, they are not used indefinitely: the number of doses of cell salts taken relates to how well the patient feels--when the symptoms improve and disappear, the need for the cell salt disappears too.
Finally, I have lots and lots of lactose intolerant patients. Most are sensitive to milk products and are not really "intolerant"...but tissue salts and regular dry dose pellets of homeopathic remedies have never had any noticeable disruptive effect on them on that front. If its really a big deal, I'll dilute a dry dose pellet in water so less milk sugar has to be used all around.
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Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:24 PM
Subject: [Minutus] Cell Salts [was: Single remedy]
Hi Nancy,
I'm interested to hear you say you've seen aggravations from cell salts.
Could you say more about it? E.g., were they being used instead of or in
conjunction with a higher potency rx, and could this have had any part in
the agg? I recall one lecturer saying that she would sometimes use cell
salts as placebo -- if the patient seemed to really need something to "keep
taking" -- but she said she would carefully choose one that had *nothing* to
do with the case, and no connection with the remedy. My understanding was
that she felt there was a risk of interfering with the action of the remedy,
but I don't know if that was based on any experiences she had, or
assumption, or what...
Also, have you used cell salts in lactose intolerant patients, any remarks
on that?
Thanks!
Shannon
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Hmm...where do I start...one case which stands out for me involves a 78 year old woman who was suffering from breaking, crumbling teeth and a very slow forming abcess which took a long time to clear (3 to 5 days). I gave her a silica tissue salt, with express instructions to take one 3-tablet dose a day, and no more. Of course, she read the directions printed on the bottle--to take 4 pills, 4 times a day--and followed those. She took 3 doses and went to bed, then awoke a couple of hours later with a massive left sided abcess and an equally massive right sided abcess which had just popped up--both extremely painful and so frightening they forced her into the dentist's chair for an emergency visit...resulting in anti-biotic prescriptions and an understandable mistrust of homeopathic medicine. I would say that was quite an aggravation. They were not being used with any other medication (no homeopathic remedy, and no allopathics were used).
I would never use cell salts as a placebo--but I often consider their use in cases where I want to "buy some time" so that I can get a clear picture of what is going on in the case. They can be very supportive this way, especially if they are addressing what is evidently a nutritional deficiency. For example: I have a 95 year old patient who suffers from eczema and partial paralysis of the legs and hands. On inspection of her skin, I noticed that there were great purple-red splotches from burst capillaries all over her arms, especially around her joints. The integrity of those blood vessels was really compromised...so I put her on a daily dose of calc phos cell salts to help increase their elasticity. Over the course of the last 2 months, the daily dose has really helped. The skin is much less bruised looking because those splotches have disappeared. In the meantime, I was treating her with homeopathic remedies which were intended to address the larger issues--the mental/emotional state she was in, the eczema, the nightly pains she suffered. I went through a number of remedies: calc carb, arsenicum, and finally baryta carb, which really fit the case much more closely than the other two, despite the improvements that were made with the initial remedy prescriptions. As her skin cleared of the blotches, her circulation improved; her symptoms became much clearer and the ability to describe them also improved...and that lead to the prescription for the baryta carb, the most helpful remedy.
I'm quite sure all the cell salts have undergone provings, though they are prepared in a slightly different way from homeopathic remedies--therefore it is very possible that different people will react to them if they are sensitive individuals. I would never use them as placebos, but I would not hesitate to use them for patients who need the nutritional boost they can give (eg. its way better to prescribe a cell salt to a patient when they are feeling run down and flu-ish than to tell them to go out and get some echinacea, in my experience. They feel better much more quickly). When they are used this way, they are not used indefinitely: the number of doses of cell salts taken relates to how well the patient feels--when the symptoms improve and disappear, the need for the cell salt disappears too.
Finally, I have lots and lots of lactose intolerant patients. Most are sensitive to milk products and are not really "intolerant"...but tissue salts and regular dry dose pellets of homeopathic remedies have never had any noticeable disruptive effect on them on that front. If its really a big deal, I'll dilute a dry dose pellet in water so less milk sugar has to be used all around.
Message -----
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:24 PM
Subject: [Minutus] Cell Salts [was: Single remedy]
Hi Nancy,
I'm interested to hear you say you've seen aggravations from cell salts.
Could you say more about it? E.g., were they being used instead of or in
conjunction with a higher potency rx, and could this have had any part in
the agg? I recall one lecturer saying that she would sometimes use cell
salts as placebo -- if the patient seemed to really need something to "keep
taking" -- but she said she would carefully choose one that had *nothing* to
do with the case, and no connection with the remedy. My understanding was
that she felt there was a risk of interfering with the action of the remedy,
but I don't know if that was based on any experiences she had, or
assumption, or what...
Also, have you used cell salts in lactose intolerant patients, any remarks
on that?
Thanks!
Shannon
on 1/6/03 9:02 AM, Nancy Siciliana at nasiciliana@hotmail.com wrote:
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