eczema

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi TC,

Well, I hesitate to pass judgment, as there are ways of prescribing that are
completely foreign to me, and yet in skilled hands can do good work. But
the dosing schedule below is one that I cannot understand *at all*. If I
gave a 200 for a skin condition and saw no response, I would certainly not
keep giving more of the same, at such short intervals (and for these
potencies in a non-urgent chronic case, these are *very* short
intervals!!!!), going higher and higher. It seems to me *guaranteed* to
bring on aggravation, whether similar or dissimilar. (Perhaps I'm mistaken
-- I am definitely still learning! -- so if anyone disagrees, I will be very
happy to hear about it!)

The alternating mental state does not in *any* way sound like a good thing.
Now getting "neater" sounds nice, and possibly healthier (tho that would
depend on details), so if she became tidier after the first dose and that
were *maintained*, or slowly increased, or even slowly decreased on a
timetable *not* connected with each dose -- that might seem encouraging,
like a good change. But to flip-flop with each dose sounds *way* out of
line, to me (and again, happy to hear if anyone disagrees with this).

If the eczema has truly returned, I would say she has *definitely* had
enough sulphur (and then some), and if I were they, I would definitely seek
a second opinion, i.e. another homeopath.

I'm happy to hear that she is taking it so well! To me that suggests that
she is basically a healthy child, and her vital force is not responding too
badly to the (apparent) overmedication.

I think Dave's advice, to leave it alone for at least a month, is very
right. Wait and see where it settles out.

In the meantime the olive oil sounds like a good comfort measure, and also
perhaps to examine her diet -- perhaps allergy is contributing? (One easy
way to check this, is to eliminate temporarily any foods that she eats every
day, or, sadly, that she is especially attached to. After a couple of weeks
without an allergenic food, the body is largely cleansed of it, but not yet
healed much, so if there has been improvement, you can check out whether the
food was responsible by re-introducing it for a single meal, aggressively --
e.g. if the "suspect" is wheat, have two weeks with no wheat whatsoever --
not even the small amounts in canned soups, no bread, etc., etc. -- and then
after two weeks have a meal that is *entirely* wheat (at least, very heavy
on wheat, and no other "suspect" foods). If there's no reaction from that,
then the food could be safely re-introduced.

Also perhaps flax oil or fish oil would help -- sometimes it helps for
eczema, but I don't know if that's "sometimes" or "usually", or what...

Dietary measures certainly aren't a cure, but could help to buy some time
while they look for the needed remedy, to remove the susceptibility!

Now perhaps it turns out this is a talented, world-famous homeopath, and
what they did made total sense in context of the child's case, and then I'll
have egg all over my face, LOL! (For curiosity, do you know anything about
her training, reputation, etc.?) Ah well, there are my thoughts...

Let us know what happens!
Best,
Shannon
on 12/21/02 9:43 AM, SIM Thiam Chye at tcsim@starhub.net.sg wrote:

[Tanya Marquette]

if i understand correctly, this child was given sulphur, in increasing potencies for 4 months without
any meaningful response. this doesnt make sense to me. further, no one on this list has raised the
question (as far as I recall) of whether the child is proving the remedy. what do you think of this?

the alternation between mental and physical states is very interesting. she is either in a neat state with
eczema or a disrupted state without eczema. so what is the angst which occurs in a neat state which
manifests on the skin?

i also wonder if there is something of comfort to her when she has the eczema? i find it interesting
that she takes it so well. sometimes people have a satisfaction from their dis-eased states. they may
identify with them. or they may derive a level of attention that doesnt come otherwise. or perhaps some
other issue?

tanya
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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Tanya,

I agree with you! The idea of "proving the remedy" has been raised, tho.
The question is, whether it's been a "similar agg" in the context of cure
(and so far nothing really suggests this!). So if not, then "proving the
remedy" would be the answer (ouch!).

As I read, tho, the eczema persisted thru each flip-flop.
It is an awfully interesting case (and my heart goes out to the family!),
and I would *love* to know why so much sulphur!!!! And why such high
potencies in such fast repetition! Whew...

Good questions you ask.
I hope we get to hear how this one works out!
Shannon
on 12/22/02 5:49 AM, tanya marquette at tamarque@frontiernet.net wrote:

[Sim Thiam Chye]

Hi Shannon

You are correct to say that the eczema persisted throughout the mental
flip-flop,
except that it was less severe when the girl was on the messy state. There
was one
area of healing in either first or second mth; and it's around the heels. It
has stayed
clear so far (if I don't make a misake). Given these facts, it doesn't look
like a proving
to me.

The high potencies in such fast repetition is indeed puzzling. I can't fit
the action of the
remedy into David Little's teaching on primary and secondary actions of the
remedy.
May some of the more experienced homoeopaths on list shed some light on this
PLEASE........

Regarding the Hom.'s training, she was trained in Australia and she spent
a year in India after graduation. She is classical in her approach in that
she
will not mixed with other modalities of healing. Also, she uses single
remedy.
She has been practising for 12 years. So you can rest assured that you are
not
questioning a guru here.....although even the gurus make mistakes.

I have already advised my friend to leave it alone for 1 mth.

rgds
TC

[Dr. R. Swift]

TC,

If the heel healed first leaving other areas of eczema higher up on the body
and then recurred higher but not on the heel, again I would say this is
indicative of suppression. Should recur low and move up and disappear from
above downwards.

be well
Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

[Sim Thiam Chye]

Hi Russell

Thanks for input. You just reminded me of Herring's law.
Just like clarify a pt. I was told that the heel was subjected to
very little or no steriod cream compared to upper parts of the limb
Will this affect the direction of cure?

If it is really a case of suppression, what should the parents do?
Antidote the Rx or wait it out?

Blessed Christmas

rgds
TC

[Dr. R. Swift]

TC,

It seems to me there are other places on the body the eczema could have come
back that were not treated with cortisone and that would have been at the
periphery such as another part of the foot, the other foot, the hands.
Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

[Sim Thiam Chye]

Hi Russell

Assuming that it is really a case of suppression, what is
the best advice I can give to my friend.
I felt responsible as I was the one who encouraged them to
consult a homeopath. Furthermore the success or failure of this
case will affect those fence-sitters view of Homeopathy.
Your advice is most appreciated.

rgds
TC

[Dr. R. Swift]

TC,

If I was sure it was suppression, I would look for a new remedy and not be
so aggressive as it seems this child is one that tends to go from skin to
emotions without anything in between and that is not the kind of patient I
would want to risk suppressing again. I don't think waiting as you suggested
is a bad idea, either to let things settle a bit.

Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

-

[Sim Thiam Chye]

Dear Russell

Thanks for the advice
May God bless you in this Christmas seasons.

rgs
TC