HIV

[Paul Booyse]

Hello List,

Is it wise to practise homeopathy without guiding symptoms? No proving, no
indication of the source of remedy other than some vague "magnetic" source?
Even when using some remedies which have no proving data, such as some of
Scholtens stuff, there is still some logical rationale behind choice of
remedy and individulaization.

I hear Peter when he says he doesn't want some one to patent the remedy, but
can any legal eagles out ther say whether this is possible for a from a
"processed remedy"? And why doesn't Peter patent it himself?

There is not a range of potencies to manage a case with except using the
supplied potency on "LM " principles.

Too many questions for me to get involved with this yet. And not that cheap
at 12 pounds for 20 granules either. (Cheap to buy but it should generate
fair revenue for the supplier).

The bottom line is "does the remedy work?". Its been available for some
time now yet I have still to see the flood of emails about success. Other
than Peter's list of case successes, has anyone had results yet? I am sure
many people have bought the Rx so far.

Paul Booyse

[Ananda Ruchira]

> From: "Paul Booyse"
Dear Paul.
Good to meet you! Happy to notice your email address is from South Africa. By chance do you know my friend & volunteer Ronell Mostert, formerly of the Natal school?

While I share some of your concerns, I can give my own opinion as is now in my present state of evolving homeopathic experience.

My clinics are located in the slums of Nairobi. We can see up to 30-40 patients daily, 5-15 new patients included. Of these about 25%-35% have HIV+ related problems.

It's my firm belief that homeopathy could and should apply to these conditions. That is the only way to make homeopathy a "medicine for the people".

In this situation, we are often resorting to shorter interviews and therapeutic-symptomatic prescribing or even what Peter calls "epidemic" prescribing. (rather than so-called "constitutional" or "classic"). To treat many patients, I have long since resorted to these methods, especially in seasonal, infectious or endemic diseases. In the slums & rural areas that covers a lot of diseases = STDs, typhoid, malaria, skin rashes & ulcers, biharzia, scabies, worms, diarrhea, dysentery, flu, etc. I don't think there's much mystery to it.

I think Peter is right in his "epidemic prescribing" approach. The sufferers of "HIV/AIDS" do share a number of common (guiding) symptoms-- of which Peter has assured us that the remedy covers:
--weight loss
--appetite loss
--low-grade fevers
--debility
--GI tract involvement, usually diarrhea
--tendencies for dry coughs, etc. particularly TB
--later stages- mental degeneration, etc
-- etc

And I think a remedy (or even polypharmacy) could be prescribed on this basis.

However, I also feel, that, like all remedies in Homeopathy, eventually the process or the remedy should be made known after tests are completed.

We owe are present knowledge to the Masters -- Hahnemann, Clarke, Allen, and innumberable provers-- who did not patent or keep any "professional" secret. It is in the best interest of our profession to maintain this standard. On the other hand I can understand that in today's world, such a "miracle drug" may get into exploiter's hands-- and for the same reasons the remedy has to be protected too. A quandary for us, no?

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Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Rucira
Director, Abha Light
visit: http://home.pacific.net.sg/~rucira/alf
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[Ananda Ruchira]

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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Paul,

I certainly agree with your bottom line -- does it work?
I found Peter's website fascinating, and I guess I am inclined to give it
credence based on my impression that he is thoughtful, sincere, and
well-grounded in homeopathy.

Unless I am mistaken in these impressions, the remedy certainly seems to
bear experimentation -- and this, as you say, is what will prove it or
disprove it.

I think the website gives a good description of the basis on which he has
chosen the remedy. One could dispute some of his conclusions -- e.g. that
(if I understood him right) any simple contagious disease will have a
"specific" remedy -- but that too will be proved or disproved (at least as
regards AIDS) simply by trying it, and sharing our results.

Re the issue of giving complete description of the remedy, I can think of
many reasons why it could be best not to, under the circumstances. E.g.
credibility issues (let's try it, and see if others replicate his results)
to legal risks (remember the various nutrients that have been "banned" on
very scanty grounds? Such as e.g. a contaminated batch (was that
tryptophan?), improper usage (folic acid, in case it's used to mask B-12
deficiency), or claims the FDA deems inappropriate)? (On the other hand, I
hope he's made very sure that the particulars are safely on record
*somewhere*!)

Best,
Shannon

on 12/14/02 1:27 AM, Paul Booyse at pb000014@pixie.co.za wrote:

[jdurfeeathome]

In a message dated 12/14/2002 12:38:19 PM Mountain Standard Time,
pb000014@pixie.co.za writes:
Not that cheap by standards of some third world countries. Would not twenty
granules is enough to make a stock bottle to treat many many people?

Barbara
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[Paul Booyse]

Hello Didi,

By chance do you know my friend & volunteer Ronell Mostert, formerly of the
Natal school?

Not presently, is she based in Natal?

in my present state of evolving homeopathic experience.

patients daily, 5-15 new patients included. Of these about 25%-35% have HIV+
related problems.

One of the battlefronts. Are you using Peter's remedy?

conditions. That is the only way to make homeopathy a "medicine for the
people".

therapeutic-symptomatic prescribing or even what Peter calls "epidemic"
prescribing. (rather than so-called "constitutional" or "classic"). To treat
many patients, I have long since resorted to these methods, especially in
seasonal, infectious or endemic diseases. In the slums & rural areas that
covers a lot of diseases = STDs, typhoid, malaria, skin rashes & ulcers,
biharzia, scabies, worms, diarrhea, dysentery, flu, etc. I don't think
there's much mystery to it.

Which are obviously part of or complicated in cases of, HIV.

sufferers of "HIV/AIDS" do share a number of common (guiding) symptoms-- of
which Peter has assured us that the remedy covers:

basis.

These are symptoms common to the disease pathology, but they are not
characteristic symptoms. They are without the "character" given by
modality, SRP etc. Normally a genus epidemicus would link together
characteristic Sx found in several cases of an epidemic outbreak. Those
would be guiding Sx's.

the process or the remedy should be made known after tests are completed.

and innumberable provers-- who did not patent or keep any "professional"
secret. It is in the best interest of our profession to maintain this
standard. On the other hand I can understand that in today's world, such a
"miracle drug" may get into exploiter's hands-- and for the same reasons the
remedy has to be protected too. A quandary for us, no?

Thats why I asked if there are any legal experts on the list who could help
out. Perhaps there is a way for Peter to keep the "open source" nature of
the remedy and still protect it from patent exploitation. I think its
important to be more aware of thenature of the remedy, to be able to better
prescribe for the patient. Whether we understand the process is another
story, but I think provings could be a good start. Who knows, perhaps a
group like Misha Norlands Devon school would be interested and willing to
start a proving, seeing as a group such as that have experience in
conducting good provings. (Just a suggestion. People such as Melanie
Grimes etc are very involved in provings and could give suggestions).

Regards,
Paul

[Paul Booyse]

Hello Barbara,

twenty

20 granules would (usually) make 20 stock bottles, one per patient.

Regards,
Paul

[Paul Booyse]

Hello Shannon,
I did get that impression based on his history in teaching and the reviews
of his books (which I have not read) Nevertheless, I need more info on the
Rx.
Certainly - I would just be a bit happier to "experiment" if I knew more
about the Rx. If the remedy was based on characteristic Sx found in
HIV?AIDS cases , that would be a start. But it seems that common Sx are
used.
Yes.
a good concern. In South Africa its not banned, but dose size is regulated.
I hear you, but then, surely using an "unknown remedy" would be even more
reason to legislate against its use?

Regards,
Paul

[Dave Hartley]

If the cost is prohibitive, run it up to an LM2.
Your one granule becomes 50,000.
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

[Nandana T. Pai]

Dear list,

I would like to know any personal experiances of physicans of the list
in dealing with HIV pt and AIDS Pt's.
Who easy or difficult is the cases to manage , is there any special
precaution to be taken in both conditions. I mean before and lossing the
immunity and when knowing he will lose his health( i mean sypmtom free
state of being known as a postive.

What is this Aids Miasm? is it a nosode and is it of any use in deciding
medicne to a Hiv pt.

looking forward for good and informative reply.

Nandana
Kochi