family planning

[roya a.ahmadian]

hello list

where is the place of family planing in homeopathy?
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[alpha_panthera1]

--- In minutus@y..., "roya a.ahmadian" wrote:
Hello yourself,
That was not a very precise question. If your thoughts were somehow on
the lines of "hom.= harmless drugs => couldn't one take these instead
of conventional ones to prevent pregnancy ?" or sth. like that:
Homoeopathy is not some sort of nice and harmless herbs, it is a
completely different system of healing. Emphasis on the last words. We
do not usually regard conception as a disease. Childlessness has
successfully been treated with class. hom., but the way you phrased
your detailed enquiry, that seems not to have been on your mind. The
only situation to take homoeop. rem.s in a preventive way ( and that
is against harm to your health, not some unwanted thing to happen ),
is when a real epidemic is on your doorstep ( i.e. a real one, as
today in tropical countries, not your neighbour's flu). And that's
all.
Please note that there are usually kind people on this list
willing to help with their knowledge and experience and sources when
they meet a serious question about our art homoeopathy, which we all
like very much. We do not intend to be one of the general
wobbling-waffling lists chatting about all sorts of things somehow
related to health matters. A serious question is recognizeable e.g. by
being clear and precise and showing how much the asking person knows
already and what they need the inf. for. I regard your hasty line as
an example of someone demanding other and more knowledgeable people's
attention and sharing their time with you, without bothering about any
effort from your side. It does not even meet basic standarts of
politeness. There is no spokesperson for this group, but I am sure no
other member is happy with our space being taken up by this sort of
things either. No regards from the replier either.

[Dave Hartley]

Homeopathy is useful for normalizing / optimizing health.

Therefore potentially useful in restoring fertility, if that is your family
planning issue...contraception is obviously outside of the scope of
homeopathy generally.. although spontaneous abortion of unhealthy/marginally
viable foetus would be a normal function of an optimally *healthy* woman,
and therefore would be generally supported by homeopathy, and has somewhat
specific/known remedies associated.

Homeopathy can be greatly useful in restoring balance / health which has
been disturbed by 'birth control' hormones, and in adapting to shifting
hormone production.

regards,

Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

[Shannon Nelson]

I wonder whether the question might have been with reference to e.g. "the
pill" etc., or other contraceptives? (Can't imagine why "planning" should
present any problem! But methods used, could.)

Hormones are a potential problem; barrier methods are better.
Maybe you could make your question more specific...

Shannon
on 11/18/02 4:12 PM, Dave Hartley at dave@localcomputermart.com wrote:

[jdurfeeathome]

In a message dated 11/18/2002 2:31:02 PM Mountain Standard Time,
alpha.panthera@homeopathyhome.net writes:
Apparently I am more willing to take this question seriously than others
here.
In my practice as a homeopath it is my intent to provide the best alternative
education to my client as possible to help them make decisions that protect
their health and welfare.

In Hahnemann fashion I include such education in the realm or regimen -
eliminating and reducing those things that can bring on or cause disease made
through the lifestyle of the client.

Although I would not consider attempting someone to help plan a family, the
issue of birth control is serious and significant to the health and welfare
of the client and as of yet unborn children. Most forms of birth control are
damaging to the biological system and it for this reason that I consult on
birth control methods and options in a preliminary fashion. Although I am not
a full expert in this field I do endeavor to help them to understand the
health pitfalls with the different types of birth control available so that
they fully understand the implications of hormone and toxic substances
involved in the various birth control products, as well as their effacy.
From there I send them to counsel with a midwife or family planning clinic
who has knowledge in the implementation of various nontoxic methods as well
as the common chemical or implant methods, which I disavow.

I also consider it significant and important for a woman to understand how
her monthly cycle works, how hormones and stress impact it and how she can
become in tune with its function. Anything that empowers a woman through
education in regard to her procreative functions can only assist her in
maintaining better health. I find many women lack significant education in
this area.

Further more, children that are unwanted, conceived through violence,
conceived through toxic chemical barriers, or conceived in a woman who is
worn out physically will not sustain the best of health. Clear and healthy
choice is the goal.

You see, Hahnemann was not just a homeopath. He was a physician.

Barbara

physician: one exerting a remedial or salutary influence
remedial: concerned with the correction of faulty habits and the raising of
general competence
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[alpha_panthera1]

--- In minutus@y..., jdurfeeathome@a... wrote:
others
Since you quote my name, although no word of mine, I am apparently
scolded as the "other(s) here" who is supposedly not taking the issue
seriously as it should be. So I have to come up with a reply
again.
alternative
protect
regimen -
disease made
Nice, laudable and the right thing to do. We are, however, not in any
consultation room here. It is supposed to be a platform to discuss
cl.hom., and on an agreeable level, I suppose. Including related
issues, when they come up, perhaps, but to a limited
extend.
consider attempting someone to help plan a
family, the
welfare
control are
consult on
I am not
the
so that
substances
effacy.
clinic
as well
Neither am I an expert. I agree with all you write and the importance
you recognize this topic to
have.
understand how
she can
through
in
education in
Again complete agreement. Especially the last sentence. One need not
even be a female oneself to encounter this time and again. E.g. just
sit in a bus and involuntarily listening to teen girls telling each
other in subdued voice about their monthly cramps and sensing that
most probably they did not feel they would find an open ear at their
mothers, or anyone else, wise and adult, for their trouble. And they
wouldn't even get the idea to search the local public library for some
solid information conveyed in a sympathic manner, the sort which I
have seen on shelves and in b.sellers' catalogues. And I did get a
little shock when one day years ago in the Univ. Zool. museum
collection I met a group from the students' children kindergarden,
showed them some things, got to chat a bit with the young "gardener"
and she told me that quite a number of her "plants" lacked in
emotional caring, 'cause their mothers couldn't cope with the double
task, since they were quite often "accidental children" ( you know
what I mean, no force or sth., just "surprise" ), and I thought "but
how...??", and that with the educational elite-to-be. ... And all the
other issues, medical, routine cutting etc., yes, you are damn
right.
more, children that are unwanted, conceived through
violence,
who is
healthy
I have myself been working with children, and for no money, I have
been working in a
"development aid" context, I have ( briefly ) been working on
maternity wards in Africa and in Europe, reading on birth issues,
including "anthropology of childbirth" books, animal childcare,
"peri-natal psychology"
etc.. In contrast to your picture of me, I do sympathize with children
and those who bring them to the
world. And I have met females from various continents in various ways
and observed that there are enormous differences to do with ways of
education, "emotional climates" around the world etc.. And it
impressed me when years ago I went to an Oriental dance event in a
small Univ. town, and one medic. student girl, who had invited me to
dance with her after the show was over, later told me how she had
taken part in a seminary which the performer of the evening had been
teaching, and how unique that had been and how she, who was a shy
person, had been touched by this all-women-thing and
athmosphere and how this most-female-body-and-soul dance felt so good
etc etc. I thought then and still think that western women are often
quite poor in a way, and I do recommend such learning experience
sometimes and encourage females they should seek it. Sort of one of my
ways of "health-paedagogics". Yes, and I know quite well about the
history of that dance tradition, pygmies to ancient egypt etc., and
the contexts.
homeopath. He was a physician.
raising of
Yes, sure, the whole organon breathes it. And I have read on his life,
including his pre-hom. humane psychiatry experiment. I am not "just a
homoeopath" either.

[isali]

The subject of pregnancy is addressed by remaining true to the Organon which instructs us to remain with an absence of prejudice. It is a process which follows 'natural law', and manifests itself through the organism. We treat its manifestations post inception, and may offer information on the subject pre inception. We should remain unprejudiced, and allow the organism to seek out its chosen path.
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