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Deepak Sharma
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Re: question

Post by Deepak Sharma »

Hello Tanya
See the Calcarea group and match other syptoms
regards

Tanya Marquette wrote:
can someone help me to identify when the periosteum is damaged as opposed
to soft tissue as in an injury?

ruts is listed under damage to periosteum where rhus tox lists soft tissue damage.

Tanya

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Joy Lucas
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As you probably know the periosteum is fibrous matter wrapped around
bone and soft tissue lays on top of that so one would imagine that
pains are deeper and possibly feel as though they affect the bone as
well. Ruta's affinity with fibrous tissue is well known and bones and
joints are affected also - the top keynote being a bruised aching
feeling, as if beaten or the pain feels as if in the marrow of the
bone which suggests deep sensations. Deposits also form within the
periosteum such as bone spurs maybe. With Rhus, which also affects
fibrous tissue the main sensation is stiffness and also because Rhus
has much more of an affinity to the skin than Ruta then this suggests
the upper layer, i.e. soft tissue is more sensitive, rather than the
deeper periosteum.

That would be my take on it anyway :-) Best, Joy
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Tanya Marquette
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Post by Tanya Marquette »

thank you so much joy. i love the clarity that you bring with your
explanations!

in an injury that has both characteristics of rhus t and ruta would
you think that alternating the rx's would work. rhus t doesnt seem
to be making it. yeh, i know, then you would probably say try the
ruta!

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Shannon Nelson
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Post by Shannon Nelson »

It's funny, initially I had learned pretty distinct pictures of rhus-t
and ruta, yet have found on a few occasions that ruta may be needed for
what *looks* like rhus-t, and shares the modality of "worse motion,
better on continued motion" and several other things!
Shannon
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muthu kumar
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Post by muthu kumar »

One difference I have noticed is

in Rhus tox there is an >> by stretching- this is a key note for
Rhus tox. Patients with fever who stretch often need Rhus tox. There
was one flu epidemic in the city ( following a rain) where the
patients felt better by stretching and Rhus tox was indicated in
most of the cases....

Ruta < by stretching. Boericke emphasizes "thighs pain when
stretching the limbs" - I cured a case of arthritis based on this
when the patient had pain in thigh < going down stairs when she had
to stretch the leg to the next step...
Since then I have verified it in a couple of other cases...

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Shannon Nelson
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Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thank you, I'll keep this in mind!
Shannon
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Joy Lucas
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Post by Joy Lucas »

A rx that has characteristics of both Ruta and Rhus tox = Stramonium?
No, just kidding :-)

Seriously, I would never dream of alternating rx so if you are looking
more towards Rhus tox but Rhus isn't curing then it might needs its
complimentary rx Bryonia (different modalities though) but if Rhus
isn't doing anything at all then yes, try the Ruta. Ruta isn't anywhere
near as restless as Rhus, even though it is >> motion weakness soon
sets in, so that is a very different sx scenario.

Don't forget about Bellis which is restless like Rhus, has to move and
becomes extremely excitable. It has a deep bruising sensation (both
emotional and physical) and creates a fair amount of swelling like
arnica - difference being that bellis > cold and rhus > warm but maybe
that would be a better choice than Ruta. Best wishes, Joy

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Pauline Ashford
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Re: question

Post by Pauline Ashford »

There is a good comparison of Rhus and Ruta in Homeopathy for
Musculoskeletal Healing by Asa Hershoff p225 (ISBN 1-55643-237-2) Regards
Pauline


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Post by Tanya Marquette »

thanks, will have a look

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Shannon Nelson
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Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thanks--it's not one I have. Can you give highlights of the
comparison, by any chance?
Shannon
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