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Who knows what remedie can't be distracted from watching t.v. ?
Mark Brassé
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Rhonda Bird
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Re: question
Mark wrote:
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Just some ideas...
Is the watcher being defiant, and won't be taken away from the television,
or is the person so engrossed in the television that getting their attention
to do something else is difficult - are they being stubborn?
An obscure rubric I found is Staring, thoughtlessly - Cann-i, Hell, hydr-ac,
merc-c, phos, puls, scorp
or
Averse to being disturbed - ant-c, bry, cham, cocc, coloc, gels, nat-m,
nux-v, ph-ac, sulph
Hope this helps,
Rhonda
>>>
Just some ideas...
Is the watcher being defiant, and won't be taken away from the television,
or is the person so engrossed in the television that getting their attention
to do something else is difficult - are they being stubborn?
An obscure rubric I found is Staring, thoughtlessly - Cann-i, Hell, hydr-ac,
merc-c, phos, puls, scorp
or
Averse to being disturbed - ant-c, bry, cham, cocc, coloc, gels, nat-m,
nux-v, ph-ac, sulph
Hope this helps,
Rhonda
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Peter Graham
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Re: question
i know a homeopathic student - first year - who is going to stay at a mission in Singapore. It has a homeopathic clinic and they will be allowing her to observe. She would like to take a gift but doesn't know what.
Any suggestions?
michele.
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Any suggestions?
michele.
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Julian Winston
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Gail R Brown
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Re: question
What information do you explain to your clients as to WHY NOT to touch
the remedy???????
Just curious what the general consensus was for an answer!
Gail Brown CPM
Oklahoma
the remedy???????
Just curious what the general consensus was for an answer!
Gail Brown CPM
Oklahoma
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Julian Winston
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At 11:14 PM -0600 4/1/05, Gail R Brown wrote:
A silly prohibition.
I would suggest that the person *who is getting the remedy* can touch
it all they want. But the *dispenser* should not touch it.
Since as little as a single granule (or even the sniff of a single
granule) can serve as a "dose" it would be important for the
recipient to NOT touch the dose until it was to be given.
I know of ONE case (related to me a doc at Millersville) where a
remedy was to be "held" until needed. The little pack had a leak, one
granule got loose, and the pt. picked it up and put it back. Too
late! Dose was taken!
I can see a scenario where someone with very dirty hands MIGHT
neutralize the remedy if it were administered into the hand and then
to the mouth.
Otherwise, I find our remedies not quite as sensitive as that.
Of course, once the dose is OUT of the bottle, it should NOT go back in.
OK?
JW
A silly prohibition.
I would suggest that the person *who is getting the remedy* can touch
it all they want. But the *dispenser* should not touch it.
Since as little as a single granule (or even the sniff of a single
granule) can serve as a "dose" it would be important for the
recipient to NOT touch the dose until it was to be given.
I know of ONE case (related to me a doc at Millersville) where a
remedy was to be "held" until needed. The little pack had a leak, one
granule got loose, and the pt. picked it up and put it back. Too
late! Dose was taken!
I can see a scenario where someone with very dirty hands MIGHT
neutralize the remedy if it were administered into the hand and then
to the mouth.
Otherwise, I find our remedies not quite as sensitive as that.
Of course, once the dose is OUT of the bottle, it should NOT go back in.
OK?
JW
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Ginny Wilken
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Re: question
I just say they're really sensitive, and touching pollutes it and
changes the energy.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
changes the energy.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
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Donna Rona
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Re: question
I respectfully dissagree with you Julian. If we are speaking of the little hard pillules of sugar - then the remedy is contained in a very very thin coating on the outside only. Most hands have a (relatively) thick coating of dead cells, oils and dirt so that I think the capacity to absorb through the skin of the fingers would be very small. However, the capacity to remove the thin coating would be considerable. If someone handled or 'touched' a number of pillules before taking them - I doubt they would remove all of the remedy and some would be contained on the pillules that made it to the mouth - however, if they are taking only one, it seems possible that you might loose the remedy coating in that case. However this is all conjecture - with no way to measure.
So perhaps the question becomes - will touching a remedy:
a. remove the remedy coating? - eliminating the remedies effect
b. contaminate the remedy ?- possibly neutralizing it
c. be absorbed through the skin and not matter at all
I simply suggest to clients that the remedy is contained in a very thin coating on the outside only of the 'sugar pill' and that it is best to avoid touching.
Donna
So perhaps the question becomes - will touching a remedy:
a. remove the remedy coating? - eliminating the remedies effect
b. contaminate the remedy ?- possibly neutralizing it
c. be absorbed through the skin and not matter at all
I simply suggest to clients that the remedy is contained in a very thin coating on the outside only of the 'sugar pill' and that it is best to avoid touching.
Donna
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Julian Winston
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At 2:16 PM -0500 4/2/05, Donna Rona wrote:
And I respectfully tell you that you have no idea about the
manufacture of the granules!
The remedy is contained NOT as a coating on the outside but rather it
is spread through the entire granule.
When the LMs are made Hahnemann suggested that 500 poppy-seed sized
granules can absorb ONE drop on medicinal solution.
The amount of absorption was tried/tested by Boiron. It is an easy
experiment to try.
You simply take a number of granules and drop onto them an alcoholic
solution of something like methylene blue. the experiment is done
with different quantities of granules and solution.
The upshot of Boiron's experiment was that about three drops of
solution will *totally saturate* about 1 grain of number 10/ or
number 20 pellets. This is determined by cutting open a granule to
see if the blue color has been totally absorbed-- i.e., the granule
is *blue* all the way through.
Once the ratio is determined, it is easy to have the granules
*consistently* absorb a full dose of solution.
Having received many remedies from many sources, I have found that
while some are dry, some are often still wet with the alcoholic
solution.
The only way the "dose" can remain on the outside of the granule is
if the manufacturer is lazy and just sprays it on. Most manufacturers
saturate the granules with a sufficient number of drop to moisten
them all the way through, and then "roll" the granules in the vial to
get full coverage.
I did the experiment myself using number 35 pellets (like BB's), and
was amazed at how little solution was needed to completely absorb the
coloring.
By the way, long ago there was a book published in the UK that showed
how remedies were made and they said the the dilution was *sprayed*
onto the granules. that is not correct.
Of the several forms in which remedies are seen, the most common are
tablets and granules (in the USA) and as "disks" in the UK and in
many "British" places (like NZ). These "disks" are just hard pressed
sugar tablets that are medicated in the same way granules are-- a few
drops of medicated dilution in the bottle with blank disks.
I'm not sure who is making trit tablets these days, although I think
that most "cell salts" are made as such, and I know that Washington
Homeopathic has the capability since they got many of the machines
when B&T closed up in Philly back in 1992.
Trit tablets are made by pressing the milk sugar trituration base
into a mold. So in those cases, the medication IS through and through
the delivery medium.
JW
And I respectfully tell you that you have no idea about the
manufacture of the granules!
The remedy is contained NOT as a coating on the outside but rather it
is spread through the entire granule.
When the LMs are made Hahnemann suggested that 500 poppy-seed sized
granules can absorb ONE drop on medicinal solution.
The amount of absorption was tried/tested by Boiron. It is an easy
experiment to try.
You simply take a number of granules and drop onto them an alcoholic
solution of something like methylene blue. the experiment is done
with different quantities of granules and solution.
The upshot of Boiron's experiment was that about three drops of
solution will *totally saturate* about 1 grain of number 10/ or
number 20 pellets. This is determined by cutting open a granule to
see if the blue color has been totally absorbed-- i.e., the granule
is *blue* all the way through.
Once the ratio is determined, it is easy to have the granules
*consistently* absorb a full dose of solution.
Having received many remedies from many sources, I have found that
while some are dry, some are often still wet with the alcoholic
solution.
The only way the "dose" can remain on the outside of the granule is
if the manufacturer is lazy and just sprays it on. Most manufacturers
saturate the granules with a sufficient number of drop to moisten
them all the way through, and then "roll" the granules in the vial to
get full coverage.
I did the experiment myself using number 35 pellets (like BB's), and
was amazed at how little solution was needed to completely absorb the
coloring.
By the way, long ago there was a book published in the UK that showed
how remedies were made and they said the the dilution was *sprayed*
onto the granules. that is not correct.
Of the several forms in which remedies are seen, the most common are
tablets and granules (in the USA) and as "disks" in the UK and in
many "British" places (like NZ). These "disks" are just hard pressed
sugar tablets that are medicated in the same way granules are-- a few
drops of medicated dilution in the bottle with blank disks.
I'm not sure who is making trit tablets these days, although I think
that most "cell salts" are made as such, and I know that Washington
Homeopathic has the capability since they got many of the machines
when B&T closed up in Philly back in 1992.
Trit tablets are made by pressing the milk sugar trituration base
into a mold. So in those cases, the medication IS through and through
the delivery medium.
JW
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Donna Rona
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Re: question
Julian,
Thank you. I was indeed under the misconception that the 'sugar pill' did not saturate through and that was the fundamental difference in tablets vs pillules - the tablets being 'through and through' and the pillules being 'surface coated'. Yes - very early on in my education I had read they were sprayed (must be that UK publication you refer to - or someone quoting from it). Thank you for staying on top of things.
Hope you are feeling better.
Donna
Thank you. I was indeed under the misconception that the 'sugar pill' did not saturate through and that was the fundamental difference in tablets vs pillules - the tablets being 'through and through' and the pillules being 'surface coated'. Yes - very early on in my education I had read they were sprayed (must be that UK publication you refer to - or someone quoting from it). Thank you for staying on top of things.
Hope you are feeling better.
Donna