diabetes
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?? That would surprise me greatly! Did they specifically *mention*
how they might have checked for and eliminated digestion problems? I
realize the *theory* would have been that people are digesting what
they eat; but these are the same people who promote the "theory" that
whatever we eat, must give us whatever nutrients we need. Neither
"theory" is very well supported on further examination!
Shannon
how they might have checked for and eliminated digestion problems? I
realize the *theory* would have been that people are digesting what
they eat; but these are the same people who promote the "theory" that
whatever we eat, must give us whatever nutrients we need. Neither
"theory" is very well supported on further examination!
Shannon
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you are correct that poor folk's diet has often been vegetarian.
people near the water ate lots of fish
people in the plains, at some point in history, began to raise
domesticated animals and ate lots of meat and dairy products.
but
people near the water ate lots of fish
people in the plains, at some point in history, began to raise
domesticated animals and ate lots of meat and dairy products.
but
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I see a big difference between "results of research" and
all the multitude of theories out there - Atkins and dozens of others
- which is NOT from research.
I think people confuse the theories with the research findings - and
it matters.
Most theorists have found one isolated research fact and then made
every imaginable asumption supposedly based ip[n gthe one item - to
come up with something to sell.
I do not buy into that either.
But I do use real research findings.
These are theories being argues not research findings:-)
For example people argue whether cholesterol is good or bad in the
diet - but nobody has any research finding either way.
It's only assumptions that cause these futile arguments.
Example:
Research shows that a certain kind of cholesterol is found in damaged
blood vessels.
Research also found that eggs contain cholesterol.
Research also found that the brain needs lots of cholesterol to
function.
What cholesterol comes from and how it gets where it goes - was NOT
researched.
It was always an assumption - not shown in any research - that
cholesterol in the diet had anything to do with heart disease.
So only if you believed the ASSUMPTIONS could you go wrong.
If you only read the research findings - they are still all correct.
More recent research shows:
Food cholesterol helps feed the brain what cholesterol it needs.
Damaging cholesterol is made by fat in the omentum from carbohydrates
dumped there as fat.
There is no contradictory research here anywhere - only assumptions
that are wrong.
Medical profession assumptions will lead you up the garden path all
the time. They are great at jumping to coclusions - especially if
it's done by a drug company with a chemical to peddle. (Statins etc -
which will damage the brain very quickly).
But the actual research findings do NOT support them. They are
assumptions.
Assumptions - not research findings:-)
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
all the multitude of theories out there - Atkins and dozens of others
- which is NOT from research.
I think people confuse the theories with the research findings - and
it matters.
Most theorists have found one isolated research fact and then made
every imaginable asumption supposedly based ip[n gthe one item - to
come up with something to sell.
I do not buy into that either.
But I do use real research findings.
These are theories being argues not research findings:-)
For example people argue whether cholesterol is good or bad in the
diet - but nobody has any research finding either way.
It's only assumptions that cause these futile arguments.
Example:
Research shows that a certain kind of cholesterol is found in damaged
blood vessels.
Research also found that eggs contain cholesterol.
Research also found that the brain needs lots of cholesterol to
function.
What cholesterol comes from and how it gets where it goes - was NOT
researched.
It was always an assumption - not shown in any research - that
cholesterol in the diet had anything to do with heart disease.
So only if you believed the ASSUMPTIONS could you go wrong.
If you only read the research findings - they are still all correct.
More recent research shows:
Food cholesterol helps feed the brain what cholesterol it needs.
Damaging cholesterol is made by fat in the omentum from carbohydrates
dumped there as fat.
There is no contradictory research here anywhere - only assumptions
that are wrong.
Medical profession assumptions will lead you up the garden path all
the time. They are great at jumping to coclusions - especially if
it's done by a drug company with a chemical to peddle. (Statins etc -
which will damage the brain very quickly).
But the actual research findings do NOT support them. They are
assumptions.
Assumptions - not research findings:-)
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Re: diabetes
A simple, direct answer to all these kind of stuff and many things of similar nature is found in Organon, 6 th edition, foot note to aphorism 1. worth reading daily, as our day begins
--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Irene de Villiers wrote:
--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Irene de Villiers wrote:
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early man was a hunter-gatherer. but wild nuts and berries clearly were a mainstay
of their diet. grains were not on the menu. there are postions in natural health circles
that all illness began with eating of grains which are inflammatory in the body and
all disease begins with inflammation.
tanya
A simple, direct answer to all these kind of stuff and many things of similar nature is found in Organon, 6 th edition, foot note to aphorism 1. worth reading daily, as our day begins
--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Irene de Villiers wrote:
of their diet. grains were not on the menu. there are postions in natural health circles
that all illness began with eating of grains which are inflammatory in the body and
all disease begins with inflammation.
tanya
A simple, direct answer to all these kind of stuff and many things of similar nature is found in Organon, 6 th edition, foot note to aphorism 1. worth reading daily, as our day begins
--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Irene de Villiers wrote:
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Dr. Atkins had over 30 years clinical practice with 1000's of patients. His invaluable info is more than just theory, it's proof from practice! Many more 1000's have been and currently are following his "theories" and his books are still widely sold, ranked highly on Amazon, still #1 for Diets. There are multiple forums online devoted to Atkins' Dieting and diabetes..
For example, "Thanks to Atkins no more Meds", http://www.lowcarbsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12643
Research has only reinforced the low carb approach that he advocated for weight loss and diabetes.
Research, scientific, is not supporting homeopathy. Does that mean we shouldn't use homeopathy?
Susan
Irene wrote:
I see a big difference between "results of research" and
all the multitude of theories out there - Atkins and dozens of others
- which is NOT from research.
For example, "Thanks to Atkins no more Meds", http://www.lowcarbsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12643
Research has only reinforced the low carb approach that he advocated for weight loss and diabetes.
Research, scientific, is not supporting homeopathy. Does that mean we shouldn't use homeopathy?
Susan
Irene wrote:
I see a big difference between "results of research" and
all the multitude of theories out there - Atkins and dozens of others
- which is NOT from research.
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Hi Irene,
Research findings are ok.
But in order to do researrch specific questions have to be asked, i.
e. it has to be determined what to research and how. And one may not
ask the right questions and/or the setup may be inappropriate.
And after the research the results have to be interpreted and there
again a lot can go wrong. And then they have to be generalized - and a
lot can go wrong there.
But the main reason for my not eating according to research/theories:
I have gotten bored with spending time on worrying about what to eat,
what not to eat, how much to eat of this and that.
Regards
Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Research findings are ok.
But in order to do researrch specific questions have to be asked, i.
e. it has to be determined what to research and how. And one may not
ask the right questions and/or the setup may be inappropriate.
And after the research the results have to be interpreted and there
again a lot can go wrong. And then they have to be generalized - and a
lot can go wrong there.
But the main reason for my not eating according to research/theories:
I have gotten bored with spending time on worrying about what to eat,
what not to eat, how much to eat of this and that.
Regards
Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========
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Luise,
years ago there were 'studies' done with cafeteria feeding of yound children.
they found that if left alone with a variety of choices, children tended to eat
healthily, chosing what their bodies needed. i have always felt that if we
listened to our bodies, we would chose what we needed for ourselves. it
sometimes required some cleansing or fasting to decondition our bodies
from addictions to sugar and other junk food. but generally, i think we can
learn to trust ourselves a lot more than all this discussion about whose
research is more valid than whose.
now that may seem too simplistic for some of the folks on thislist, but i am
with you about not obssessing over all this research which a few yrs later
gets undone. it may be interesting to read, but only a guideline for me.
tanya
years ago there were 'studies' done with cafeteria feeding of yound children.
they found that if left alone with a variety of choices, children tended to eat
healthily, chosing what their bodies needed. i have always felt that if we
listened to our bodies, we would chose what we needed for ourselves. it
sometimes required some cleansing or fasting to decondition our bodies
from addictions to sugar and other junk food. but generally, i think we can
learn to trust ourselves a lot more than all this discussion about whose
research is more valid than whose.
now that may seem too simplistic for some of the folks on thislist, but i am
with you about not obssessing over all this research which a few yrs later
gets undone. it may be interesting to read, but only a guideline for me.
tanya
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I prefer to use the findings directly...........
Perhaps that can be called using my own interpretation:-)
but these days with research on line one can easily access it to do
that.
Well that's also research - it's called biofeedback:-)))
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Perhaps that can be called using my own interpretation:-)
but these days with research on line one can easily access it to do
that.
Well that's also research - it's called biofeedback:-)))
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."