medicinal solutions

[isali]

Jon you present a probing inquiry. One which may have a rational resolution. The difficulty encountered is the need to stretch the thinking advanced in the Organon just a little bit in order to entertain the concept of energetics of specific tissue aspects of the organism. An operative premise is the inseparable relationship of the somatic and nonsomatic terrain. And that we observe their reflective manifestations through the automatic life force. We bring to bear remedies that are of some state of dilution from mother tincture at one end (this is the terrain of herbal medicine) to profound ratios at the other end, and much in-between.

I think what we may find in agreement is that the MT and lower dilutions reflect themselves at the more superficial tissue aspects of the organism. And as we go higher is potency we simultaneously acquire reflection at deeper tissue aspects of the organism. Ultimately with the LM's finding reflection in the nonsomatic terrain and a 'gentle' coursing outward through the soma.

I offer to you for your consideration constrained and simplistic examples. My intention is to address the singular issue of differentiating the affects upon the terrain of the organism by different dilutions.

An acute condition of a runny nose with clear discharge, and burning lachrymation. Perhaps we might apply Allium Cepa 4X or 6X. An acute condition of pain in the neck and impaired articulation of the head as a consequence of a trauma, perhaps from a jarring action as in an automobile accident. Perhaps we might apply Gelsenium 1M. An acute condition of respiratory 'arrest' might bring to mind the application of Adrenalinum 10Mor 50M. And lastly a conditiion of sadness or grief as an expression of trauma to the mental terrain which we might treat with Ignatia LM1.

Without regard to any other parameters or aspects of a real case, I believe we might find agreement in observation that the lower potencies reflect in the superficial aspects of the somatic terrain with a distant relationship to the mental terrain. And as we dilute our remedies we will find reflection from the more substantive aspects of the bodies energetics to the more etherial, as in the mental terrain.

I find that the dilutions reflect in a manner consistent with the allopathic identification of their Matrix. LM's seem to offer an impact upon the mental terrain more directly; M's seem to reflect more directly in the blood level and endocrine aspects; 200C to 600C seem to reflect more directly in the connective tissue level; 60C to 200C seem to reflect in the lymphatic level; and MT to 60X in the superficial aspects of the organism which likely reflect the physiology of excretion.

So as to avoid any embattlement on other issues I emphasize again that my intention is to identify what I have observed in differentiating manifestations of the automatic life force based on potency and tissue impact as assessed by use of the Matrix.

You have raised other issues as in succussion vs. stirring; and dilution vs. substantive amount of a remedy in solution. I believe it is fair to say that succussion causes an excitation of the remedy's potential, as in more promotional of its affects. And the issue of the value of a substantive presence of a remedy in solution I believe has a relationship with the condition of the automatic life force, as in its state of integrity and ability to utilise what has been offered to it.

Kind regards and pleasant tidings
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[Jan Klüssendorf]

Dear Isali,

With all due respect, but your comment, how interesting it might be as
such, doesn't deal with the raised topic.
Even *not* in the small last paragraph.

Jan

[isali]

Jon inquires:
By diluting the dose the patient, especially the more sensitive patient, is
better able to
tolerate the energy contained in the remedy, and will have less chance of an
aggravation.

Jan, do you have disagreement with Jon's assertion? My response is, And the
issue of the value of a substantive presence of a remedy in solution I
believe has a relationship with the condition of the automatic life force,
as in its state of integrity and ability to utilise what has been offered to
it. The Organon instructs an assessment of the vital force must be made in
order to avoid a health crisis in the administration of a remedy. Therefore
no two organism will respond with exactly the same fluidity of expression of
a remedy offered due to the attenuation of their respective vital force.

Jon inquires further:
Another, related question is:
Why does the increase of the dilution rate in LM potencies have such an
enormous influence on the strength of the remedy (i.e. a deeper effect than
the equivalent remedy in C potency) and why is it gentler? Is there a
theoretical link between the rate of dilution and the depth of working of
the remedy

From my understanding of the Organon, I advance the axiom that there exists
an inseparable relationship between the somatic and the nonsomatic terrain.
And further from the Organon that we observe the manifestations from all
aspects of the organism from the vital force.

I offer what are my observations from an automatic life force that there is
a differentiation of reflection of the vital force through different aspects
of the organism based upon the potency of the remedy. And I find that there
is a correlation to be found with the informational construct of allopathic
scientific investigation of the bodies tissues as in its Matrix. That
observation establishes some correlation of potency and affinity for tissue
aspects of an organism.

It is not too far afield from the statement that issues move inside out and
top toward down. The difference is that there may exist a construct that
identifies different energetic aspects presented as the coursing occurs top
down and inside out. Were this not the case then all potencies would have
the same affect and impact. In striving to find a description I find the
construct done by others may prove of value in better understanding the
energetic information of not merely a remedy, but more than that, the
ability to affect different aspects of its profile by the appropriate use of
potency.

This is my clinical observation. It remains for others to assess its
veracity from their own observations; but, on topic it is.

regards

[isali]

In his book 'the science of homeopathy' dr. vithhoulkas gives a good read on this subject. I would refer the reader to pages 102, 161, 164-65, 168.

I would like to suggest that one might consider an analogue of potency is the parameter of frequency of an electric wave. Further that the intensity aspect of a given frequency may correlate well to our anecdotal experience of succussions of a given potency.

The wave theory of physics offers parameters that may offer some explanation of some aspects of medicinal solutions.

The subject of the theory of chaos in physics offers yet another view of medicinal solutions with regard to their impact upon the organism. It offers an explanation of why Hahnemann and writers since argue for a change of the energetics of a medicinal solution and the affect upon the organism. It is due to the ability of the body to adjust and therefore manifest a slightly differing energetic resonance.

regards all
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[Zaidee]

Hi List,

One of the perspective which has never been brought to light...well IMHO,
is that is there any logical relationship of the quantity of vehicle used
in the first two primary scales...it is either nine parts of alcohol or it
is 99 parts of alcohol but the number of succusions is the same i.e., 10-12
times. But in LM scale, the quantity of vehicle jumps 50,000 times but the
succussions have not jumped that far, which is only ten times the previous
ones. Perhaps, if any good mathematician at the site frames any ratio, we
can prepare in larger scales like 100,000 or 10,000,000. Someone on the
list had a view that if the vehicle is increased that enormously, the
medicinal effects would might cease to exist?

If LM scale is that efficient and least aggravating, then why the Master
used this scale so less in his later years of practice. He mostly preferred
the 30 c potency. Perhaps, it is respected David Little, who has given this
statistics.

Take care.

Sincerely,
Zaidee.