anti psychotics

[Jean Doherty]

It seems almost impossible to wean folk off these drugs . Most seem to have to continue with a reduced dose even with homeopathic help.
I have never found a potency of Valium helpful to those addicted but wonder if worth trying with Seroquel.
These drugs really awful.
Diet I think vey important but how one can instil that when affordability , energy and social support low.
Any thoughts, Jean

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Weird, I have done a few weanings from those type of drugs. But I start with addressing the underlying problem(s) that led to their prescription in the first place while they are still on them; when I see movement, a real change in those problems, then I start the weaning: reducing the dose very progressively and very slowly (emphasis on very!) while giving a full F series of the drug in water dilutions and lifestyle changes. ODD liver, kidneys and brain at that time too.
If need be I might add some herbs that will progressively replace the drug while the in-depth treatment continues. Lifestyle changes are necessary as you wrote.

Slow treatment but possible with some obstinacy.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Jean Doherty]

Indeed I agree but so many obstacles mainly affordability and fear to achieving this .
Thank you, Jean

[Dale Moss]

Ton Jansen did an entire book on getting people off drugs with homeopathy. It’s not easy. I’ve found sometimes that potentizing the drug they’re on is helpful.

Peace,
Dale

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Yes, of course, nobody said it would be easy; describing the plan and building it with the patient often helps.

Joe
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Jean Doherty]

Thanks Dale. This is maybe achievable. Best Wishes to all, Jean

[Mary Ann Gilmore]

You may want to add the method (or some of it) as outlined in this book to your homeopathic approach.
Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal, A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients, and Their Families, by Peter Breggin, MD, often called the 'Conscience of Psychiatry.' and author of Toxic Psychiatry, Medication Madness and developer of Empathetic Therapy.
He is a lifelong reformer and scientist in mental health. To quote,, "This is the first book to establish guidelines and assist prescribers and therapists in withdrawing their patients from psychiatric drugs, including those patients with long-term exposure to antipsychotic drugs, benzodiazepines, stimulants, antidepressants, and mood stabilizers. It describes a method developed by the author throughout the years of clinical experience, consultations with experienced colleagues, and scientific research. Based on a person-centered collaborative approach, with patients as partners, this method builds on a cooperative and empathetic team effort involving prescribers, therapists, patients and their families or support network."....The book provides critical information about when to consider psychiatric drug reduction or withdrawal, and how to accomplish it safely, expeditiously,and comfortably as possible. It offers the theoretical framework underlying this approach along with extensive scientific information, practical advice, and illustrative case studies that will assist practitioners in multiple ways, including in how to:
Recognize common and sometimes overlooked adverse drug effects that may require withdrawal

Treat emergencies during drug therapy and during withdrawal

Determine the first drugs to withdraw during multi-drug therapy

Distinguish between withdrawal reactions, newly occurring emotional problems and recurrence of premedication issues
Estimate the length of withdrawal."

Cheers,
Mary Ann Gilmore
Thanks Dale. This is maybe achievable. Best Wishes to all, Jean

[Jean Doherty]

Thank you, Jean

[Ellen Madono]

Are flower essences too mild for these kinds of cases?
Ellen Madono

[Dale Moss]

I should have clarified that potentizing the offending drug is a last-ditch technique and not a substitute for constitutional treatment and therapeutic support. Anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax are probably the most likely candidates because they seem to be the most psychologically addictive.

BTW, with so many people on so many drugs these days, I now require clients not only to list their meds but to research their side effects. Does it scare them? Sometimes. But if you’re ingesting this stuff, you need to know its effects.

Peace,
Dale