Feline with racing heart
Re: Feline with racing heart
I don’t have training so looking at racing heart, shortness of breath, stress from house repair...heart enlarged (x-ray) She should have a case done but’s on unpaid leave til house repaired and is a feline rescue and foster (several stressed kitties w/varied symptoms)
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Re: Feline with racing heart
It would be better to look at the whole case. Have you posted it to the Vet list?
Atb,
Leilanae
Atb,
Leilanae
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Re: Feline with racing heart
Please be aware in the USA Crataegus is a Rx only remedy, but you can purchase Hawthorne tincture or extract over the counter.
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Re: Feline with racing heart
Will someone post the link to the vet list? I didn’t know there was one. My dog Walter was diagnosed with a leaky heart valve. Sigh… I would love to ask a vet about this pill he is taking..
Thanks,
Vicki
Thanks,
Vicki
Re: Feline with racing heart
I'm not familiar with the Vet list? Please inform.
Is there conflict in giving hawthorne tincture while using the homeopathic (Catwell) dosing suggestion of every 10 minutes until symptoms begin to abate with crataegus 30C? I apologize for asking these questions of the group as I know Marley needs a case established. It's a stressful situation all around. I'll be there tomorrow to help with the cats.
Nan
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Feline with racing heart
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 2, 2018, 12:55 AM
It would be
better to look at the whole case. Have you posted it to
the Vet list?
Atb,
Leilanae
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Is there conflict in giving hawthorne tincture while using the homeopathic (Catwell) dosing suggestion of every 10 minutes until symptoms begin to abate with crataegus 30C? I apologize for asking these questions of the group as I know Marley needs a case established. It's a stressful situation all around. I'll be there tomorrow to help with the cats.
Nan
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Feline with racing heart
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 2, 2018, 12:55 AM
It would be
better to look at the whole case. Have you posted it to
the Vet list?
Atb,
Leilanae
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Re: Feline with racing heart
Maria,
Thank you, the veterinarian called in Rx without hesitation but has no training in homeopathy to give guidance. Kitty Marley is home again, not doing well. There will be mold remediation for a week as the cattery floor is being replaced. My friend is an RN doing all she can w/ limited homeopathic knowledge. At this point dosing frequency would be the most helpful. He cannot go back to the 24 hr. clinic.
Nan
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Feline with racing heart
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 2, 2018, 2:11 AM
Please be aware in the USA
Crataegus is a Rx only remedy, but you can purchase
Hawthorne tincture or extract over the counter.
On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:14 PM,
Nan Wood nwood@att.net
[minutus]
wrote:
One dose would be mercy and grace. I'm glad
it's had such a favorable response for you. I hope it
brings good response for kitty Marley as well. I agree, a
case workup would benefit him. After your suggestion I saw
an online link to VCA's, Veterinary Clinics of America,
reference to use of hawthorn, primarily tincture, in cardiac
cases. Kitty is at a VCA clinic. It was a useful segue way
to the topic of homeopathic crataegus. The vet's open
mindedness was welcome. Marley is more stable & coming
home for continued care. Thank you for pointing us in a
hopeful direction. Best regards, Nan Wood
-------------------------------------------- On Sat, 9/1/18,
Ginny Wilken gwilken@fastmail.fm
[minutus]
wrote: Subject: Re: [Minutus] Feline with racing heart To:
"Nan Wood nwood@att.net
[minutus]"
Date: Saturday, September 1, 2018, 2:52 PM
Nan, I have never needed more than one dose of
Crat to address irregular/speeding heart rate. On more than
one occasion, I had the tincture handy and dosed a single
time, then went on to use a 30c when it became available. I
have used a dry pellet, but prefer to make a solution.
Strangely, I had a very fatiguing day yesterday, with less
recovery time/therapy and a late bedtime. I lay in bed for
an hour or so before realizing my heart was very
accelerated, with occasional big "thumpy" beats. I
got up and found the Crat 30c solution and took a dose. I
returned to bed, my heart slowed to normal, and I fell
asleep immediately. I keep 200c pellets in my first aid kit,
just in case. I would not have a problem with sequential
doses if it worked but wore off, assuming other aspects of
the case did not point to other remedies. -- Ginny Wilken
gwilken@fastmail.fm
On Sat, Sep!
1, 2018, at 12:30 AM, Nan Wood nwood@att.net
[minutus] wrote: Thank you, Ginny. If 30C or perhaps only
6C are the only potencies she can purchase, can you suggest
a dosing protocol suited to an acute situation? (Would 200C
be appropriate in an acute situation if she can find it
locally?) The tincture or extract may take longer to take
effect re: heart rate. I'm hoping the homeopathic would
have a more immediate response. I was able to search several
articles on veterinary use of crataegus thanks to your
suggestion. Nan Wood
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Thank you, the veterinarian called in Rx without hesitation but has no training in homeopathy to give guidance. Kitty Marley is home again, not doing well. There will be mold remediation for a week as the cattery floor is being replaced. My friend is an RN doing all she can w/ limited homeopathic knowledge. At this point dosing frequency would be the most helpful. He cannot go back to the 24 hr. clinic.
Nan
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] Feline with racing heart
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 2, 2018, 2:11 AM
Please be aware in the USA
Crataegus is a Rx only remedy, but you can purchase
Hawthorne tincture or extract over the counter.
On Sep 1, 2018, at 8:14 PM,
Nan Wood nwood@att.net
[minutus]
wrote:
One dose would be mercy and grace. I'm glad
it's had such a favorable response for you. I hope it
brings good response for kitty Marley as well. I agree, a
case workup would benefit him. After your suggestion I saw
an online link to VCA's, Veterinary Clinics of America,
reference to use of hawthorn, primarily tincture, in cardiac
cases. Kitty is at a VCA clinic. It was a useful segue way
to the topic of homeopathic crataegus. The vet's open
mindedness was welcome. Marley is more stable & coming
home for continued care. Thank you for pointing us in a
hopeful direction. Best regards, Nan Wood
-------------------------------------------- On Sat, 9/1/18,
Ginny Wilken gwilken@fastmail.fm
[minutus]
wrote: Subject: Re: [Minutus] Feline with racing heart To:
"Nan Wood nwood@att.net
[minutus]"
Date: Saturday, September 1, 2018, 2:52 PM
Nan, I have never needed more than one dose of
Crat to address irregular/speeding heart rate. On more than
one occasion, I had the tincture handy and dosed a single
time, then went on to use a 30c when it became available. I
have used a dry pellet, but prefer to make a solution.
Strangely, I had a very fatiguing day yesterday, with less
recovery time/therapy and a late bedtime. I lay in bed for
an hour or so before realizing my heart was very
accelerated, with occasional big "thumpy" beats. I
got up and found the Crat 30c solution and took a dose. I
returned to bed, my heart slowed to normal, and I fell
asleep immediately. I keep 200c pellets in my first aid kit,
just in case. I would not have a problem with sequential
doses if it worked but wore off, assuming other aspects of
the case did not point to other remedies. -- Ginny Wilken
gwilken@fastmail.fm
On Sat, Sep!
1, 2018, at 12:30 AM, Nan Wood nwood@att.net
[minutus] wrote: Thank you, Ginny. If 30C or perhaps only
6C are the only potencies she can purchase, can you suggest
a dosing protocol suited to an acute situation? (Would 200C
be appropriate in an acute situation if she can find it
locally?) The tincture or extract may take longer to take
effect re: heart rate. I'm hoping the homeopathic would
have a more immediate response. I was able to search several
articles on veterinary use of crataegus thanks to your
suggestion. Nan Wood
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Re: Feline with racing heart
The "vet list" I was refering to is Irene's list, Catwell. I think you can still access the archives and there may be some conversation/info there?????
Have you thought about taking the whole, complete case??? Usually this is the first step. It's important to know where you're going and have a plan.
Atb,
Leilalnae
Have you thought about taking the whole, complete case??? Usually this is the first step. It's important to know where you're going and have a plan.
Atb,
Leilalnae
Re: Feline with racing heart
Ok, Irene’s list! Yes, have searched conversations
Thank you, Leilanae.
Nan
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