HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Hi
Thanks for all responses.
You said the remedy is already described in the Materia Medica.
What Materia medica?
I mean, what is the book that contains that description?
And if so, under what name is it described?
PC1???
Thanks again
Dinis
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exists to
name, which
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themselves.
One ofd
some drops
Thanks for all responses.
You said the remedy is already described in the Materia Medica.
What Materia medica?
I mean, what is the book that contains that description?
And if so, under what name is it described?
PC1???
Thanks again
Dinis
--- In minutus@y..., twhite7101@a... wrote:
for HIV!
exists to
name, which
about
now and a
clinical trial
on this.
themselves.
One ofd
some drops
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
I am not sure what the medicine for Aids is all about. But what I don't understand is if we could never find one single medicine for all patients of gonorrhoea, syphillis, tuberculosis or even simple things like measles, chicken pox etc. How is it that suddenly someone has found one single medicine for the hydra headed complaint called AIDS.
Come on guys wake up there is no short cut in Homoeopathy you have to individualize each case closely and after treating a few thousand cases we may have about fifty to seventy medicines that would cover most cases of AIDs.
If you believe every tom dick and harry that comes up with an AIDS cure you will be in trouble.
Best regards
Elham
Come on guys wake up there is no short cut in Homoeopathy you have to individualize each case closely and after treating a few thousand cases we may have about fifty to seventy medicines that would cover most cases of AIDs.
If you believe every tom dick and harry that comes up with an AIDS cure you will be in trouble.
Best regards
Elham
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Elham, Peters Remedy is a remedy epidemicus, look at your organon for the
appropriate justification. Peter says he has taken enough cases in Ethiopia
that he has pulled toghether the information to arrive at a remedy for the
epidemic. It all depends on how big a picture and how many cases you have.
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appropriate justification. Peter says he has taken enough cases in Ethiopia
that he has pulled toghether the information to arrive at a remedy for the
epidemic. It all depends on how big a picture and how many cases you have.
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
You are right, but don't forget that many times we
cannot find ONE remedy for an epidemic. Then we have
to select some, maybe three or four. The reason: We
may not find an exact match in our materia medica, and
therefore we have to use the closest remedies.
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cannot find ONE remedy for an epidemic. Then we have
to select some, maybe three or four. The reason: We
may not find an exact match in our materia medica, and
therefore we have to use the closest remedies.
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Yes, you are right.
In homeopathy we must always individualize.
But Peter Chappell claims that AIDS is an epidemic disease and that
all people infect with this virus present always the same symptoms.
This is not new in homeopathy. Many great homeopaths wrote about it.
So if the disease is really an epidemic disease and all people
present always the same symptoms, I can't see why the remedy cannot
be always the same in the same situations...
Peter Chappell also says that if after the Disease (Aids) have been
cured, other symptoms remain in the person then it may be necessary
to individualize and prescribe for the totality.
Anyway I think that the best we can do is to prove it. I mean, we
need to try it in 4 or 5 patients. Then and just then we may say it
works or not. If it works, then the theory of Peter Chappell was
absolutely right.
Take care
,
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don't understand is if we could never find one single medicine for
all patients of gonorrhoea, syphillis, tuberculosis or even simple
things like measles, chicken pox etc. How is it that suddenly
someone has found one single medicine for the hydra headed complaint
called AIDS.
to individualize each case closely and after treating a few thousand
cases we may have about fifty to seventy medicines that would cover
most cases of AIDs.
cure you will be in trouble.
poles; are
already in the MM.
it out from
animal
the
Homoeopathy and
representations regarding the
document read or
and/or email
use remains
individual
special, punitive
In homeopathy we must always individualize.
But Peter Chappell claims that AIDS is an epidemic disease and that
all people infect with this virus present always the same symptoms.
This is not new in homeopathy. Many great homeopaths wrote about it.
So if the disease is really an epidemic disease and all people
present always the same symptoms, I can't see why the remedy cannot
be always the same in the same situations...
Peter Chappell also says that if after the Disease (Aids) have been
cured, other symptoms remain in the person then it may be necessary
to individualize and prescribe for the totality.
Anyway I think that the best we can do is to prove it. I mean, we
need to try it in 4 or 5 patients. Then and just then we may say it
works or not. If it works, then the theory of Peter Chappell was
absolutely right.
Take care
,
--- In minutus@y..., "elham mohajir" wrote:
don't understand is if we could never find one single medicine for
all patients of gonorrhoea, syphillis, tuberculosis or even simple
things like measles, chicken pox etc. How is it that suddenly
someone has found one single medicine for the hydra headed complaint
called AIDS.
to individualize each case closely and after treating a few thousand
cases we may have about fifty to seventy medicines that would cover
most cases of AIDs.
cure you will be in trouble.
poles; are
already in the MM.
it out from
animal
the
Homoeopathy and
representations regarding the
document read or
and/or email
use remains
individual
special, punitive
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Dear Friends,
Hahnemann divided diseases into acute and chronic.
Acute are those that start, have a prodromal period remain for a specific number of days and end either in death or recovery. They do not leave chronic symptoms. Examples are measles, chickenpox etc.
Chronic diseases are those that start insidiously and keep on growing from day to day and if unchecked never leave the patient.
It is only in acute diseases that Hahnemann talked of genus epidemicus and not in chronic. Even in acute diseases he did not talk of one genus epidemicus for the whole world but one for each epidemic that takes place in an area at one particular time.
In chronic diseases there is no genus epidemicus. Please read the organon carefully. In chronic diseases you need fine individualization. During Hahnemann's time Gonorrhea and syphilis had epidemical proportions but he did not consider these as acute diseases.
AIDS is similar. It does not have a fixed duration and in each person its manifestations are different so I find it hard to believe there is only one specific medicine for it.
Just because a disease has similar manifestations in patients does not mean that it will be cured by one medicine. All diseases have similar manifestations. The job of a good Homoeopath is to disregard these common symptoms of disease and look at the individualizing symptoms. Our medicines do not attack viruses or Bacteria. We make the person healthy and his body thinks of ways of getting rid of the invasion. There have been claims of specific cures for diseases as far ranging as tuberculosis, diabetes, cataract, Angina etc. etc. None of them have proved to be so. Sometimes a doctor cures a few cases with a medicine and gets all carried away.
There is no reason to doubt that Peter Chapel has cured cases with his medicine. But to say it is the specific becomes a bit too farfetched. Anyway even if it is a specific remedy (which I do not believe) keeping it a secret is a bit strange to say the least. Anyone can get a dose of it and potentize it further and give it to all AIDS patients. There have been so many claims of AIDS specific medicine that I am getting tired of the whole thing. First it was Syphillinum, then tuberculinum, then Crotalus Hor and now a nameless something that no one knows about.
Hahnemann was severely persecuted for his discovery of Homoeopathy. In one place he says had he kept his discovery a secret he would have gained great renown and would never have been bothered by his critics. But this was not his way and should not be our way.
Best regards
elham
Hahnemann divided diseases into acute and chronic.
Acute are those that start, have a prodromal period remain for a specific number of days and end either in death or recovery. They do not leave chronic symptoms. Examples are measles, chickenpox etc.
Chronic diseases are those that start insidiously and keep on growing from day to day and if unchecked never leave the patient.
It is only in acute diseases that Hahnemann talked of genus epidemicus and not in chronic. Even in acute diseases he did not talk of one genus epidemicus for the whole world but one for each epidemic that takes place in an area at one particular time.
In chronic diseases there is no genus epidemicus. Please read the organon carefully. In chronic diseases you need fine individualization. During Hahnemann's time Gonorrhea and syphilis had epidemical proportions but he did not consider these as acute diseases.
AIDS is similar. It does not have a fixed duration and in each person its manifestations are different so I find it hard to believe there is only one specific medicine for it.
Just because a disease has similar manifestations in patients does not mean that it will be cured by one medicine. All diseases have similar manifestations. The job of a good Homoeopath is to disregard these common symptoms of disease and look at the individualizing symptoms. Our medicines do not attack viruses or Bacteria. We make the person healthy and his body thinks of ways of getting rid of the invasion. There have been claims of specific cures for diseases as far ranging as tuberculosis, diabetes, cataract, Angina etc. etc. None of them have proved to be so. Sometimes a doctor cures a few cases with a medicine and gets all carried away.
There is no reason to doubt that Peter Chapel has cured cases with his medicine. But to say it is the specific becomes a bit too farfetched. Anyway even if it is a specific remedy (which I do not believe) keeping it a secret is a bit strange to say the least. Anyone can get a dose of it and potentize it further and give it to all AIDS patients. There have been so many claims of AIDS specific medicine that I am getting tired of the whole thing. First it was Syphillinum, then tuberculinum, then Crotalus Hor and now a nameless something that no one knows about.
Hahnemann was severely persecuted for his discovery of Homoeopathy. In one place he says had he kept his discovery a secret he would have gained great renown and would never have been bothered by his critics. But this was not his way and should not be our way.
Best regards
elham
Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
I don't think the Ethiopians with AIDS and no other treatment available,
are going to be too concerned whether prescribing a remedy that fits the
majority of presentations and heals the majority of presentations, is
"good/classical Homoeopathy"!!!!
Lets give Peter Chappell a chance to divulge his work when it suits him.
The fact is, he is DOING the work, not just talking about it or theorizing
about whether or not it is classical or not!
Robyn
"Ignorance of yesterday is the knowledge of today
and ignorance of tomorrow" (P. Banerji, 1986)
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are going to be too concerned whether prescribing a remedy that fits the
majority of presentations and heals the majority of presentations, is
"good/classical Homoeopathy"!!!!
Lets give Peter Chappell a chance to divulge his work when it suits him.
The fact is, he is DOING the work, not just talking about it or theorizing
about whether or not it is classical or not!
Robyn
"Ignorance of yesterday is the knowledge of today
and ignorance of tomorrow" (P. Banerji, 1986)
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Every chronic disease starts with an acute or sub-acute phase.
Would it not be conceivable that a genus epidemicus remedy/ies could be
defined for that period of time, when the interaction disease/patient
has not yet gone deep enough to produce the personal, individual
symptoms and signs?
For example with syphilis: when you get it a the first stage, with the
chancre, when it is still mostly external, most of the symptoms and
signs are the same in every patient, so the choice of remedies is small
and limited, and if properly treated at that time, could prevent it from
becoming a systematic disease.
The same reasoning could be made with AIDS. I noted that Peter's
research was in Ethiopia, right? So I suppose, maybe wrongly, that he
treated cases at their beginning.
I'll wait to read his article..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
Would it not be conceivable that a genus epidemicus remedy/ies could be
defined for that period of time, when the interaction disease/patient
has not yet gone deep enough to produce the personal, individual
symptoms and signs?
For example with syphilis: when you get it a the first stage, with the
chancre, when it is still mostly external, most of the symptoms and
signs are the same in every patient, so the choice of remedies is small
and limited, and if properly treated at that time, could prevent it from
becoming a systematic disease.
The same reasoning could be made with AIDS. I noted that Peter's
research was in Ethiopia, right? So I suppose, maybe wrongly, that he
treated cases at their beginning.
I'll wait to read his article..........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Wouldn'd AIDS be an example of a "sub-acute" disease, rather than either
acute or chronic? Similar (in this respect) to Lyme's and a very few
others?
(This from an old post of Will Taylor's:
Half-Acute Miasms
In The Chronic Diseases, Hahnemann speaks of rabies as an example of a
half-acute miasm. I suspect that we can reasonably add malaria and perhaps
typhoid to this list. Reflecting on the nature of Lyme disease, I believe it
most reasonably belongs in this category ‹ as an obstinate and excessively
tedious acute disease that, although not technically chronic in the manner
of psora, sycosis, syphilis and tuberculosis, may play out over a lengthy
period of time and express in highly varied and changeable ways.)
Shannon
on 11/10/02 8:35 AM, elham mohajir at elham@zyberwayavadh.com wrote:
acute or chronic? Similar (in this respect) to Lyme's and a very few
others?
(This from an old post of Will Taylor's:
Half-Acute Miasms
In The Chronic Diseases, Hahnemann speaks of rabies as an example of a
half-acute miasm. I suspect that we can reasonably add malaria and perhaps
typhoid to this list. Reflecting on the nature of Lyme disease, I believe it
most reasonably belongs in this category ‹ as an obstinate and excessively
tedious acute disease that, although not technically chronic in the manner
of psora, sycosis, syphilis and tuberculosis, may play out over a lengthy
period of time and express in highly varied and changeable ways.)
Shannon
on 11/10/02 8:35 AM, elham mohajir at elham@zyberwayavadh.com wrote:
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Re: HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy
Hi Elham,
A great post... like the basis homeopathy itself.. simple, if not easy.
It is not everyday that I see a post that is so simple in explaining what is
so difficult for some to understand.
I hope that people will read and re-read this until it makes simple sense to
them!
thank you!
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240
A great post... like the basis homeopathy itself.. simple, if not easy.
It is not everyday that I see a post that is so simple in explaining what is
so difficult for some to understand.
I hope that people will read and re-read this until it makes simple sense to
them!
thank you!
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240