Hi Tania
I think his Suspicious characteristic is pathological and such a trait has driven him to eliminate his real or perceived opponents.
The next question is – when considering how power hungry ** he is – the violence he is prepared to use to keep his position.
Certainly does not like any criticism. Any demonstration against him is violently put down.
** From head of KGB he became President, served two terms, then switched roles with his prime minister for two terms, and then became president again!
Soroush
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The question is whether his suspicion is pathological or valid. It may be a realistic survival skill.
t
Putin
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Putin
Not so sure about some of your observations. There is a lot we don't know in the West about Russia.
One thing I do know is how the US, probably along with its allies, have for decades spied on and tried to
sabotage the Socialist efforts of Russia. How can any leader not become suspicious when always under
that gun. I can see how living under that umbrella would tend to make someone suspicious. But we can
say that about the CIA and even the American president as those are positions that are intricately concerned
with achieving and maintaining power.
But for a homeopathic exercise one is free to create whatever symptom picture they wish.
t
One thing I do know is how the US, probably along with its allies, have for decades spied on and tried to
sabotage the Socialist efforts of Russia. How can any leader not become suspicious when always under
that gun. I can see how living under that umbrella would tend to make someone suspicious. But we can
say that about the CIA and even the American president as those are positions that are intricately concerned
with achieving and maintaining power.
But for a homeopathic exercise one is free to create whatever symptom picture they wish.
t
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Putin
Yes let us keep to just observing.
“Even before he finished school, Vladimir Putin wanted to work in intelligence.” From http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio
The point about suspicious is when he was in the KGB and was promoted eventually to lead it.
And also KGB is infamous for its brutality.
You can also look at his interests http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/interests Competitive? Loves Fresh air? Ambitious?
“If I do something, I try to see it through to its completion, or at least try to ensure that it brings the maximum result.”
Many times on the site one reads : “He has taken this process under his personal control.” Dictatorial?
Regards
Soroush
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Putin
Not so sure about some of your observations. There is a lot we don't know in the West about Russia.
One thing I do know is how the US, probably along with its allies, have for decades spied on and tried to
sabotage the Socialist efforts of Russia. How can any leader not become suspicious when always under
that gun. I can see how living under that umbrella would tend to make someone suspicious. But we can
say that about the CIA and even the American president as those are positions that are intricately concerned
with achieving and maintaining power.
But for a homeopathic exercise one is free to create whatever symptom picture they wish.
t
“Even before he finished school, Vladimir Putin wanted to work in intelligence.” From http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio
The point about suspicious is when he was in the KGB and was promoted eventually to lead it.
And also KGB is infamous for its brutality.
You can also look at his interests http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/interests Competitive? Loves Fresh air? Ambitious?
“If I do something, I try to see it through to its completion, or at least try to ensure that it brings the maximum result.”
Many times on the site one reads : “He has taken this process under his personal control.” Dictatorial?
Regards
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:02 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Putin
Not so sure about some of your observations. There is a lot we don't know in the West about Russia.
One thing I do know is how the US, probably along with its allies, have for decades spied on and tried to
sabotage the Socialist efforts of Russia. How can any leader not become suspicious when always under
that gun. I can see how living under that umbrella would tend to make someone suspicious. But we can
say that about the CIA and even the American president as those are positions that are intricately concerned
with achieving and maintaining power.
But for a homeopathic exercise one is free to create whatever symptom picture they wish.
t
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Re: Putin
Soroush, you are doing the same thing here.
This is not how a good homeopath works so why do an 'exercise' in this way
Sheri
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This is not how a good homeopath works so why do an 'exercise' in this way
Sheri
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Re: Putin
I think it could be quite interesting and informative to explore the reality of Putin, but trying not to get too
far afield and politcal, which we already are, think we should just work with what we have and create the
homeopathic exercise.
t
far afield and politcal, which we already are, think we should just work with what we have and create the
homeopathic exercise.
t
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Re: Putin
Right again, Sheri. Putin is not power hungry. He is not violent. He
is not suspicious. He is highly aware which some who are uninformed
would call suspicious. He holds onto power because his country needs
him to do so. Russia was a basket case in the past and Putin has
brought her back to life by his wise leadership. His firm hand is seen
by those who do not want Russia to thrive as violence. There is no
proof that he has been violent even though the nature of intelligence
agencies of which he was the head is to be violent. One cannot be
involved in national intelligence in today's world without some
contact with violence. Let us not forget to mention that there are
many vile and disgusting creatures who work for the nwo who are trying
to destroy Russia and they may need a little slap every now and then.
Putin threw the nwo out of Russia and he has brought hope to his
people because of that. Just as in the US, Trump, who is our Putin, is
trying to do the same thing. Because of that, the nwo wages a campaign
to destroy Trump just as they have done with Putin but the people
support both of these men. The real enemies are those who are
uninformed and knowingly or unknowingly do the work of the very nwo
whose ultimate goal is to kill the useful idiots and remove them from
the Earth. It is the ignorance of these useful idiots which if
unchecked, will destroy a nation.
On 11/28/17, Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:
is not suspicious. He is highly aware which some who are uninformed
would call suspicious. He holds onto power because his country needs
him to do so. Russia was a basket case in the past and Putin has
brought her back to life by his wise leadership. His firm hand is seen
by those who do not want Russia to thrive as violence. There is no
proof that he has been violent even though the nature of intelligence
agencies of which he was the head is to be violent. One cannot be
involved in national intelligence in today's world without some
contact with violence. Let us not forget to mention that there are
many vile and disgusting creatures who work for the nwo who are trying
to destroy Russia and they may need a little slap every now and then.
Putin threw the nwo out of Russia and he has brought hope to his
people because of that. Just as in the US, Trump, who is our Putin, is
trying to do the same thing. Because of that, the nwo wages a campaign
to destroy Trump just as they have done with Putin but the people
support both of these men. The real enemies are those who are
uninformed and knowingly or unknowingly do the work of the very nwo
whose ultimate goal is to kill the useful idiots and remove them from
the Earth. It is the ignorance of these useful idiots which if
unchecked, will destroy a nation.
On 11/28/17, Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:
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Re: Putin
Well the nwo is winning on our study group, the divide and conquer is working with all of us.
Guess and deciding what rubrics would work for an 'actor' is fine, they are not real people and who cares.
Trying to 'decide' what Putin, or Trump or any other person in the public eye meeds for rubrics is STUPID !! You are seeing an illusion, public personas and personal personas are different.
ALSO - this is a highly charged subject.
I am an American Citizen, I am of Italian heritage, mom came to the USA as a young teen, and Dad was born here. All WHITES are not the same just as all blacks, hispanics, asians, etc are not the same. Generalizations are not good for anyone.
For anyone who does not live in the USA, guess what?
Discrimination has existed from the first time a new person came to the USA.
American Indians were discriminated against, So were the Germans, Italians, Jews, (Irish and Africans yes some were brought in as slaves, but not all) Chinese, and then we had the Hispanic Influence. So this 'discrimination' has always existed here. It is always short lived, made many people work much harder, etc. Not pretty, but we have ALL been there.
But on a personal note, all of the people I have met have been wonderful!, We are all afraid of what we do not understand - we try to hold tight to our cultures and each culture has acceptable behavior that is eyed with suspicion from those who do not understand other cultures.
Bottom line, we are AMERICANS! And America is the greatest country of the world because we have such wonderful and enriching diversity.
Take the chips off your shoulders, we are homeopaths, let's stick to fact and forget about projecting onto controversial public figures what we THINK. We would not be successful in our practices projecting onto our patients.
Lets get back to real homeopathy and leave our predjudices out of this group.
Maria
Guess and deciding what rubrics would work for an 'actor' is fine, they are not real people and who cares.
Trying to 'decide' what Putin, or Trump or any other person in the public eye meeds for rubrics is STUPID !! You are seeing an illusion, public personas and personal personas are different.
ALSO - this is a highly charged subject.
I am an American Citizen, I am of Italian heritage, mom came to the USA as a young teen, and Dad was born here. All WHITES are not the same just as all blacks, hispanics, asians, etc are not the same. Generalizations are not good for anyone.
For anyone who does not live in the USA, guess what?
Discrimination has existed from the first time a new person came to the USA.
American Indians were discriminated against, So were the Germans, Italians, Jews, (Irish and Africans yes some were brought in as slaves, but not all) Chinese, and then we had the Hispanic Influence. So this 'discrimination' has always existed here. It is always short lived, made many people work much harder, etc. Not pretty, but we have ALL been there.
But on a personal note, all of the people I have met have been wonderful!, We are all afraid of what we do not understand - we try to hold tight to our cultures and each culture has acceptable behavior that is eyed with suspicion from those who do not understand other cultures.
Bottom line, we are AMERICANS! And America is the greatest country of the world because we have such wonderful and enriching diversity.
Take the chips off your shoulders, we are homeopaths, let's stick to fact and forget about projecting onto controversial public figures what we THINK. We would not be successful in our practices projecting onto our patients.
Lets get back to real homeopathy and leave our predjudices out of this group.
Maria
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Re: Putin
Sorry Maria, but you are dead wrong about your perceptions about discrimination.
We are not all equal in a hierarchical culture that was based on enslavement of a specific group of people,
specifically because of the color. It has been the defining mark for all groups that you listed for becoming
'white;' in a white supremacist society. Blacks cannot by definition ever become 'white,' And you need
to learn a lot more about the world you live in.
As for homeopaths--nice idea but homeopaths do bring their prejudices into the interview room and often
do fail because of that. I am sorry that talking about racism is still so uncomfortable for white people to discuss
and that is part of the problem as well as evidence of it.
I also find you to be very judgemental here. If some people want to create a shared exercise in homeopathy
why should you be so hostile to it. Of course you can start a different topic instead of dumping on others.
t
We are not all equal in a hierarchical culture that was based on enslavement of a specific group of people,
specifically because of the color. It has been the defining mark for all groups that you listed for becoming
'white;' in a white supremacist society. Blacks cannot by definition ever become 'white,' And you need
to learn a lot more about the world you live in.
As for homeopaths--nice idea but homeopaths do bring their prejudices into the interview room and often
do fail because of that. I am sorry that talking about racism is still so uncomfortable for white people to discuss
and that is part of the problem as well as evidence of it.
I also find you to be very judgemental here. If some people want to create a shared exercise in homeopathy
why should you be so hostile to it. Of course you can start a different topic instead of dumping on others.
t
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Re: Putin
good grief-sorry racism has colored your world. And it is not uncomfortable to me. But it has no place on this list and our projections onto Putin or Trump
That is what it is. PROJECTION. They aren't sitting and telling you their rascist thoughts,if they have them
Sheri
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That is what it is. PROJECTION. They aren't sitting and telling you their rascist thoughts,if they have them
Sheri
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Re: Putin
She is not judgmental nor am I. This has no place in homeopathy and showing to others on this list that this is how we work. THIS IS NOT how a homeopath works, or should work.
That is why we object
Sheri
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That is why we object
Sheri
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