addiction case

[Tanya Marquette]

dear Joy, Barbara, Isali

thanks for the input. the humming info in agar is great. i couldnt find it.

i am still looking for some Seattle homeopaths to refer her to.

here is some feedback for today:

spoke with my daughter who spent most of the night with this woman. The ars 200c was
helping, but very short term. She was needing it every 1/2 hour. as a consequence, i
suggested a 1M potency. as least she was able to get some sleep

just spoke with this woman and it sounds like the ars in not providing the relief it did last nite.
i was told she hadnt gotten more than 6 hours of
sleep since these episodes began, almost 9 days ago.

she is very afraid of being alone and clings to everyone who is around.
my daughter told her she was not going to be around much and this woman
burst into tears (my daughter is packing and getting ready to leave Seattle at the
end of this week).

abandonment seems to be a theme in her life, but i am not sure how real it is.
she was locked in a closet for a couple of hours by her sister when she was 5 yrs old
and it freaked her out. she had developed claustrophobia from that experience.For the
most part is over it, but once in a while feels like in an underground tunnel

her fear of death is very strong. she has had this fear since kindergarten, age 5. her
teacher died and her family went to the funeral. this woman suddenly realized the
permanency of dying and it freaked her out. now here she was, in an accident,
staring at the possibility of death for herself!

as a child she reacted by becoming a worrier with high anxiety.
she was very paranoid and worried about things; eg, that they would lose
somebody in the family. later she panicked about nuclear war and radiation.
As an adult, she channels her anxiety and worrying into 'real' things like the war in Iraq.
Today,she will discuss issues of concern or talk till really freaked out by them/
She gets her mind off her worries by reading, sports, or will watch a movie

arthritis developed in her lower back when she was 24. physical therapy was no
help, but the martial arts were. here we see her current modality: better for movement

bowel reactions to stress are common. when she is anxious, under normal conditions, she
will have additional bowel movements. when tense and jittery, her body will go flush all
over and weird energy will come out of her head. this will trigger bowel movements:
regular and calming to actually have one. under stress, they come out a little quicker
than normal,
So again, her reaction under this particular stress is similar to her normal stress reactions.

So what i am still wondering is how much of her current episodes are from
the opiate drugs, and how much are from the panic and fright she sufferred in the accident.

despite her despair and fear of never recovering, she is not as spacey, not obsessing on the
accident or talking of death and the episodes are not as intense.

the heat spot on her neck has come back as the ars is waning and with the ars 1M potency,
it has become icy hot and is constant.

please keep the feedback coming. i am looking at agar as suggested and will look at arg.

tanya
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[isali ben-jacob]

good day from a latitude of sunshine. Tanya your picture of the pt. imparts an image of someone who has lost their tether to 'linear' time existence (real time), that view of events whose conditions require that all the t's are crossed and the i's dotted; that the pt. is centering their view of life's circumstance(its stress factors) in an 'daydream' time state(that sensorial fluid state where the what if's and but's in life have dominance); and that this could and is resulting in a misalignment of information which disallows appropriate interpretation of life's stress factors.
The pt. becomes unable to process information appropriately and as you pointed out the underlying catalyst apparently occurred in their more youthful period of life in which circumstance they have swallowed, completely ingested, some event, some collection of stress factors such that there exists a bonding of that information to their constitution & continues to find an eroding reflection.

I would suggest an inquiry which might illuminate a stimulus to the K system which may reflect a burden to the Sp system resulting in a reflection of prolapse conditions.

Are there headaches in the area of the occiput; pain in the l. back; is the l. back cool or warm; are the knees or ankles weak; what is the status of the libido; is there pain in the joints or muscles; is there stiffness in the a.m.; does the body change temp. in the p.m., going warm or cool; is there undigested food in the stool; hemorrhoids; low or weak voice; appetite; abd. bloating with a small amt. of food; are conditions amel. with warmth or movement; is there frequent urination; and is it pale or w/o color; is the menses regular, with scanty or profuse flow, w/ or w/o
cramps, and what is the color of the blood.

The responses would find Hom. MM placement though the inquiry is generated from another paradigm perspective.

tanya marquette wrote:

[Tanya Marquette]

thanks for the thoughts. spoke with pt a few minutes ago and reviewed your questions. i sometimes have
difficulty with your language since i dont know the TCM, however, i think your sense of the pt is correct. to use
her words, she had been "spazzed out" and was living in a daydream as you put it.

i am delighted to note that she is steadily improving on every level and is strong enough now to talk herself
through her fears when she experiences the tingling down her arms. the icy burning in her neck is breaking
up and the heat is now reduced to a state of warmth and the cold and hot sensations are separate and more
localized. i have suggested she seek homepathic care locally which will give her the human contact she seems
to need. the fears that arose from this accident are actually old fears and anxieties that were just in an
extreme state.

thanks again

tanya

[isali ben-jacob]

greetings tanya. I do understand that we have cultivated a
different vocabulary. It is by the relaxation of my language
training that I have found great similarities with other paradigms.
Not that I would consider myself a doctor of....,rather, with
sufficient comfort to enable dialogue. I very much appreciate your
effort to configure my inept attempt to share thoughts with language
that is self limiting. What I have found of interest is that from
the questions you found the pt., and were you to have exposure to
the paradigm which generated the questions I believe you would begin
to find a very comfortable mix of our two differing medicines. In
any event I appreciate the dialogue and glad it was of help.

[Tanya Marquette]

just to let all know: the woman i was treating is doing pretty well. she is still
having difficulty with continued tingling which has diminished greatly and is
becoming more focused. her appetite has returned. these among other points
of improvement

the main point of this post, tho, is to inform people of the extreme toxicity of the drug.
i have just identified what the narcotic drugs were: oxycontin and dilaudid. both are
opiate derivatives. what i am finding about oxycontin is that is is very addictive in a
very short amount of time. the sx of my patient are typical of this drug's withdrawal
picture. it is quite painful to go thru this withdrawal and first hand accounts indicate
that is can take over a month to withdrawal. one person reported it was hell for over
25 days before any relief set in. what was also interesting are the 3 class action
lawsuits i discovered against this drug's manufacturer. as to be expected the drug
is touted as a wonder drug for pain relief and the side effects are minimized. mds
are not discussing these problems with pts, apparently.

so, considering the long withdrawal from this drug, and adding in the effects of the
dilaudid (a morphine based drug), i would say this woman is doing quite well since
it is only 9-10 days since the withdrawal began.

parenthetically, she has gone to a homeopathic clinic at Bastyr since i suggested
she find someone locally, and they agreed with the remedies that had been used.
that was nice feedback on a very frustrating case taken long distance.

again, thanks for the help for all who have responded

tanya
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[Dale Moss]

Tanya,

I don't know if this is a problem yet in the U.K. [where I'm assuming you're based], but in the U.S. Oxycontin addiction has become such a problem that people are holding up drug stores -- not to steal the cash, but to get their hands on the pharmacy's supply of Oxycontin. Many pharmacies now post prominent signs that the drug must be special-ordered; it is not kept in stock.

Peace,
Cinnabar

[Tanya Marquette]

cinnabar,

no i am not in the uk--but in nys and the pt is in wash (state) I have been hearing of the crazed craving for this drug
since getting involved with this case. i deal so rarely with the allopathic community and people taking such drugs that
i feel out of the information loop. just today a customer of mine (i do have a non-homeopathic life) who was a nurse on
a drug rehab ward for years told me about a new drug called cath (pronounced 'cat'). the arabic community uses it as
a recreational drug i think. it is being declared dangerous by the govt, but i suspect it is the usual govt psychotic split:
they approve money making drugs for the corporate world and use the others to threaten and control poor and immigrant
communities. what else is new.

tanya

[Nancy Siciliana]

"Khat" is a traditional stimulant that is found in a plant. The plant is
chewed on to extract the stimulant. It's about as potent as a nice cup of
tea.

People use this "drug" socially, the same way we use coffee or tea as a
drink to serve people when they are gathered in groups. It stimulates
conversation, liveliness, social activity. Of course, conversation and
gathering in groups--especially when done by "immigrants" who are new to the
country and have a noticeably darker skin colour--has been considered
somewhat threatening to governments, in the past.

I'm quite certain that members of the communities who have used Khat (for
centuries) aren't impressed with the substance being banned.

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Nancy,

Are you saying that "khat" is the same as oxycontin?

Shannon
on 9/19/02 6:39 AM, Nancy Siciliana at nasiciliana@hotmail.com wrote:

[Tanya Marquette]

i dont think that was the point. the point was the racist nature
of our government that would attack a mild and innocous stimulant that
was the pleasure of people of color--but would support an obnoxiously
addictive drug that made money for an american corporation

tanya