[ARH-Hom] Fever in children

[Sheri Nakken]

Yes I do the same and share with everyone I know...........
Sheri

At 10:20 AM 10/11/2017, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

This is an old technique used by blacksmiths since they exist: there is always a bottle with a mix of water and alcohol at the forge, close to the fire so it is warm but not burning; each time a smith lands a piece of melted metal on him, he/she applies a rag with the warm mixture on it....and continues to work...no scarring, no infections...

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Of course; in fact, the remedy by itself does not "do" anything; it is simply a transmitter of information to the physiology, nothing else.

Same as your Word programme does not write your book, it is an instrument to write with...

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[pb000014]

Hi Joe,

Yes, but the main point is mechanism of action, (you mentioned "? how this happens...).

It's not the remedy giving information to the physiology with the inference then that the physiology will improve.

The mechanism is the removal of pathological control of the physiology, by the temporary control of the physiology, in a pathological way, to disengage the control of the inner disease influence, which then ceases to exist (cannot survive without its hold on the vital force). The vital force (physiology etc) can only be under direction/instruction /control by one influence. The stronger remedy action wins. When it also expires the indwelling spirit can again control the physiology /vital force, leading to healthy functioning.

The idea of the remedy stimulating the physiology and thereby killing the virus is a false (vitalist) notion. Only by removing the inner state, can the physiology be freed up to perform its correct function. No stimulation needed, just freedom to do its thing. That's the mechanism.

Regards,
Paul
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[Sherill]

Thanks SO MUCH for this beautiful reminder.

Sherill
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Hi Joe,
Yes, but the main point is mechanism of action, (you mentioned "? how this happens...).
It's not the remedy giving information to the physiology with the inference then that the physiology will improve.
The mechanism is the removal of pathological control of the physiology, by the temporary control of the physiology, in a pathological way, to disengage the control of the inner disease influence, which then ceases to exist (cannot survive without its hold on the vital force). The vital force (physiology etc) can only be under direction/instruction /control by one influence. The stronger remedy action wins. When it also expires the indwelling spirit can again control the physiology /vital force, leading to healthy functioning.
The idea of the remedy stimulating the physiology and thereby killing the virus is a false (vitalist) notion. Only by removing the inner state, can the physiology be freed up to perform its correct function. No stimulation needed, just freedom to do its thing. That's the mechanism.
Regards,

Paul
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[pb000014]

Hello Sherill,
My pleasure.
Regards,
Paul
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[JULIE GRIFFITHS]

Here is a wonderful article about Dr. Coley, an American bone surgeon who discovered a cancer treatment in the 1890s which revolved around inducing a fever. Meanwhile 127 years later ....
"He observed that inducing a fever was crucial for tumour regression."
http://pmj.bmj.com/content/79/938/672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1888599/
best wishes,
Julie
Dr. Roz,
I love your generalizations. It is hard to see the big picture of inflammation as the body might see it.
I put your comment up on my site. http://tokyohomeopathy.com/what-are-fev ... flamation/
Best,
Ellen

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

And how does it happen?

I do not understand at all the notions of "vital force", "indwelling spirit". It does not mean anything to me; those are 19th century terms that were the best "explanation" possible at the time but I cannot fit them in my understanding (which could still be incorrect BTW) of biochemistry, physiology, physics, etc,....

It does not mean that I cannot practice successfully without that knowledge, but I have an itch...

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Ellen Madono]

Dr. Roz,
I believe in stuff like ki, and a spirit. I can feel it so I believe it.
But when it comes to homeopathy, actually, I much prefer a physiological description. I don't know how the patient feels their spirit or ki. Without that knowledge, I am pretty sure that your generalizations will cover most situations.
Feelings about illness or injury are very important. We can't just assume that everyone feels the same. Individual differences are often very useful to find a remedy.
Best,
Ellen Madono
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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

I use Ki/Qi/Chi in my practice when it comes to manual medicine; I use it in martial arts, like you and others...but weirdly I cannot really feel it, I only know it through its effects when applied....my limitation...I do not work with beliefs, I work only with knowledge and when I do not know I just say "I do not know", which is always a correct answer......

Let me go a bit further. Paul described the classical view that the "stronger" medicinal action of the remedy displaces the disease, replaces it then disappears leading to cure; that is what we are told in classes, am I right?

Now, let's go back to burn/scald treated with warm/hot applications: you do not apply anything hotter than what has caused that burn, do you? You apply something similar but different, hence confirming the Law of Similars...it is good enough for most of us as it works, but how does it work?

Applying cold, will numb the nerve endings, leading to relief of pain, but it will eventually aggravate the burn through vasoconstriction; in every thermic injury, there is a centre with maximum destruction, a periphery with reversible changes and a borderline area that can go either way; cold will constrict the vessels in that borderline area, leading to necrosis; warmth will lead to vasodilatation, increased drainage of toxic matter, increased oxygenation and increased nutrition, leading to repair of that area, ending with a more limited damage or even no destroyed tissues...that is the physiology underlying the Law of Similar in the cases of burns and scalds, and it explains also very well why doing that can increase the pain sensation as the nerve endings are also stimulated and send the pain signal to the brain. Every time I have to redo my First Aid Certification, I have a malignant pleasure explaining that to the class and see the inner furore of the instructor...ha ha ha...

This type of mechanism of action of the Law of Similars does exist for each and every situation. Because I have no access to Physics Labs, I cannot test my generalised hypothesis about clathrates, receptors, etc,...so I am stuck right now.

Makes better sense?

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz