They are rerunning the Vaccines Revealed 9 Episodes this weekend so if
you missed any try to catch them now. Even if you can only watch Episode
1 and then parts of the others it will be worthwhile.
http://www.vaccinesrevealed.com/
I am impressed with the presentations which are quite detailed. For
those who are skeptical about the fraud in the science I think the
experiences of people like Brian Hooker, and Glen Goldfarb as well as
Andrew Wakefield should at least raise serious concerns. Whistleblowers
are really a courageous class of people as they not only put their
reputations and livelihood on the line, but often their very lives as
well. Personally, I find them quite heroic. Toni Bark, MD does a great
job in laying out many fallacies regarding the education and practices
of allopathy. Her experiences are not unique.
After watching the videos, if anyone who lives near me would like to
chip in to buy a set of the DVD's and transcripts let me know. I have
one person so far who is interested.
tanya
Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
I watched a couple of the episodes. I couldn't quite remember some of the
details on one episode where they talk about using some part of the
mucosa...or cells or something of monkey and a cocker spaniel to make the
vaccine more cohesive or something. I was having dinner with my husband in a
restaurant. When he heard the cocker spaniel information he laughed so
hard...in 40 years I never heard that man laugh so hard. Now that think about
his laughing it kind of puts me in hysterics as well. Why not a labrador?
Anyway, I think the point of these vaccine episodes is for us to read them and
pass on the information to others. Or buy them and pass them on. I cannot be a
messenger of this information when it turns out to be high comedy for some
people...at least for one person. Does anyone who read this particular episode
remember the part about the cocker spaniel? And could they present this
information back to me in a sentence or two that wouldn't sound so absurd.
Isn't there an outfit that fights using animals for experiments that would
jump on this. I mean for millions of vaccines...how many cocker spaniels
and/or what part of a cocker spaniel is sacrificed? Then my husband wanted to
know what kind of monkey was used...and that brought on more laughs.
details on one episode where they talk about using some part of the
mucosa...or cells or something of monkey and a cocker spaniel to make the
vaccine more cohesive or something. I was having dinner with my husband in a
restaurant. When he heard the cocker spaniel information he laughed so
hard...in 40 years I never heard that man laugh so hard. Now that think about
his laughing it kind of puts me in hysterics as well. Why not a labrador?
Anyway, I think the point of these vaccine episodes is for us to read them and
pass on the information to others. Or buy them and pass them on. I cannot be a
messenger of this information when it turns out to be high comedy for some
people...at least for one person. Does anyone who read this particular episode
remember the part about the cocker spaniel? And could they present this
information back to me in a sentence or two that wouldn't sound so absurd.
Isn't there an outfit that fights using animals for experiments that would
jump on this. I mean for millions of vaccines...how many cocker spaniels
and/or what part of a cocker spaniel is sacrificed? Then my husband wanted to
know what kind of monkey was used...and that brought on more laughs.
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
Carol
I think the point is that cells of many different species are used for culturing the virus.
Often they are from other mammals, some of them very close to us. Cells from cocker spaniels
or cute monkeys is no different to me--they are all part of the questionable process that is used.
And that is the point. We are seeing large increases in allergies to many of the culture medium
species being used. Peanuts, eggs, etc. From the point of view of allergies, is the use of non-edible animals considered safer; ie,
dog cells. They are already using human fetal cells. it is all gross and dangerous in my mind.
t
I think the point is that cells of many different species are used for culturing the virus.
Often they are from other mammals, some of them very close to us. Cells from cocker spaniels
or cute monkeys is no different to me--they are all part of the questionable process that is used.
And that is the point. We are seeing large increases in allergies to many of the culture medium
species being used. Peanuts, eggs, etc. From the point of view of allergies, is the use of non-edible animals considered safer; ie,
dog cells. They are already using human fetal cells. it is all gross and dangerous in my mind.
t
Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
At risk of sounding quite dumb...monkey stuff...what about negative blood type
getting monkey stuff?
getting monkey stuff?
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
I think the whole idea of vaccination is faulty, so pick and chose which of the many issues are involved.
The concept, once again, is the hubris of the entitled that think they can do better than nature. At core
is the value and belief that man, the wealthy of course, can and should take control of nature, commoditize
it for control and profit. It has never worked well for the public or the environment.
Right now we are in the stage where, due to the goals of the drug corporations and their ability to buy govt,
we are militarizing health care where govt, federal and state, can decree total ownership of our body. There
are core belief/value/ethical questions we need to be discussing but the public is not understanding any of it having been lead by their
nose down the path of fear and hysteria of germs and sickness. And I find it even worse when dealing with people who have
been educated and like to see themselves at too bright to be deluded by marketing propaganda or intimidated by their medical
professionals despite the big fact that they are.
t
The concept, once again, is the hubris of the entitled that think they can do better than nature. At core
is the value and belief that man, the wealthy of course, can and should take control of nature, commoditize
it for control and profit. It has never worked well for the public or the environment.
Right now we are in the stage where, due to the goals of the drug corporations and their ability to buy govt,
we are militarizing health care where govt, federal and state, can decree total ownership of our body. There
are core belief/value/ethical questions we need to be discussing but the public is not understanding any of it having been lead by their
nose down the path of fear and hysteria of germs and sickness. And I find it even worse when dealing with people who have
been educated and like to see themselves at too bright to be deluded by marketing propaganda or intimidated by their medical
professionals despite the big fact that they are.
t
Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
Tanya got it right.
Cell lines from various species can be and are used for growing viruses used in vaccines.
E.g. the polio virus can be grown in dog kidney cells: the "MDCK cell line" - which was derived from one King Charles Spaniel's kidney, whose cells were immortalized/turned into a cell line which multiplies indefinitely; polio virus manufacturers can also use other cells, such as monkey kidney cells, which come from another immortalized cell line.
The concern in this particular video was that vaccine manufacture doesn't always remove all of these "immortal" cells which are foreign to the human who gets injected with them. This can obviously have adverse side effects, among others because other components in vaccines (e.g., so called adjuvants) can open the blood brain barrier.
The potential presence of these foreign cells or cell fragments in human blood is also concerning as vaccine manufacturers aren't very interested in safety studies or GMPs (as they can't be sued if injuries are reported, while a strong financial entanglement between approving (and recommending) agencies (CDC and FDA) and vaccine producers exist.
Another interview suggests that some vaccine manufacturing sites are not disclosed or come from China. Sloppiness in labeling also seems to be problematic. So quality control seems to be an issue.
Heidi
Cell lines from various species can be and are used for growing viruses used in vaccines.
E.g. the polio virus can be grown in dog kidney cells: the "MDCK cell line" - which was derived from one King Charles Spaniel's kidney, whose cells were immortalized/turned into a cell line which multiplies indefinitely; polio virus manufacturers can also use other cells, such as monkey kidney cells, which come from another immortalized cell line.
The concern in this particular video was that vaccine manufacture doesn't always remove all of these "immortal" cells which are foreign to the human who gets injected with them. This can obviously have adverse side effects, among others because other components in vaccines (e.g., so called adjuvants) can open the blood brain barrier.
The potential presence of these foreign cells or cell fragments in human blood is also concerning as vaccine manufacturers aren't very interested in safety studies or GMPs (as they can't be sued if injuries are reported, while a strong financial entanglement between approving (and recommending) agencies (CDC and FDA) and vaccine producers exist.
Another interview suggests that some vaccine manufacturing sites are not disclosed or come from China. Sloppiness in labeling also seems to be problematic. So quality control seems to be an issue.
Heidi
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
One of the issues that concerns me because it is never discussed, and did not see mention of it in the
Vaccine Revealed series is the fact of using GMOs for the viruses. As if eating GMOs wasn't dangerous
enough, they are now pumping them directly into the blood stream!
t
Vaccine Revealed series is the fact of using GMOs for the viruses. As if eating GMOs wasn't dangerous
enough, they are now pumping them directly into the blood stream!
t
Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
Seem to remember the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines were contaminated with a cancer causing monkey virus (SV-40) and was administered to three million baby boomers. (Dr Mary's Monkey)
Atb,
Leilanae
Atb,
Leilanae
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Tanya Marquette
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And the reaction of these 'scientists' when they made this discovery was "Whoops"--no big deal that millions were injected with a carcinogenic
substance. I believe it was caught on video, too. And no articles decrying the rate of cancer in this generation. Of course there are so many more
carcinogenic substances now available that doing any research on this connection would probably not be possible.
t
substance. I believe it was caught on video, too. And no articles decrying the rate of cancer in this generation. Of course there are so many more
carcinogenic substances now available that doing any research on this connection would probably not be possible.
t
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Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
Hi – Is there a link to this for more info please?
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:49 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
Seem to remember the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines were contaminated with a cancer causing monkey virus (SV-40) and was administered to three million baby boomers. (Dr Mary's Monkey)
Atb,
Leilanae
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:49 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Vaccines Revealed--their foibles and contradictions
Seem to remember the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines were contaminated with a cancer causing monkey virus (SV-40) and was administered to three million baby boomers. (Dr Mary's Monkey)
Atb,
Leilanae