Varun
Please explain the source of your recommendation for prescribing two remedies at the same time.
Hahnemann’s instructions are to give one remedy and evaluate the result before changing to another.
Soroush
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I would just like to add a general point. If you think to give China, then also give Carbo Veg along with, as a must, in the same potency. Both are complementary remedies, just to tell, and can be used together.
In case you use any Chininum remedy, then give Carbo Animalis with it.
Varun
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Hi, all: I am looking into China for someone middle-aged who suffers chronic malarial attacks. To avoid knee-jerk prescribing, I am reading all that I can. I wondered if anyone has thoughts on the remedy, its salient or unusual generalities, cautions, etc. Can I differentiate between China and Chininum Sulph or other salts on the basis of the strong symptoms alone, or should I try China first? I tend towards great conservatism in dosing, with water doses, so would appreciate recommendations here as well. Thank you,
ginny
Prescribing two remedies at same time (WAS: China keynotes)
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Prescribing two remedies at same time (WAS: China keynotes)
If it's to come in the end that Hahnemann didn't say so, then nothing can be the right answer for it.
See the situation of we giving one remedy, say three doses in some time, and later we see a shift to its complementary remedy. We now give this complementary remedy, three doses again. Can't we give the next dose of both remedies together? The answer certainly is yes, even if Hahnemann didn't write it.
And if it's unrelated remedies to which the shift of symptoms is coming, say for the second remedy after the first remedy, then another concept comes in, which Hahnemann didn't write again. Here I'm not saying that we simply can give just those two remedies together, but something more comes in then. Don't ask for it, as first you should be ready to really believe in giving complementary remedies together at least.
Varun
See the situation of we giving one remedy, say three doses in some time, and later we see a shift to its complementary remedy. We now give this complementary remedy, three doses again. Can't we give the next dose of both remedies together? The answer certainly is yes, even if Hahnemann didn't write it.
And if it's unrelated remedies to which the shift of symptoms is coming, say for the second remedy after the first remedy, then another concept comes in, which Hahnemann didn't write again. Here I'm not saying that we simply can give just those two remedies together, but something more comes in then. Don't ask for it, as first you should be ready to really believe in giving complementary remedies together at least.
Varun
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Re: Prescribing two remedies at same time (WAS: China keynotes)
Varun
For a change what you have written, which to my understanding is different to your earlier text, is correct.
Why is it correct? Because firstly you have not given two remedies together, you have waited for and assessed the action of the first.
The assessment of the actions of the first remedy is essential before a second dose or even another remedy is prescribed.
In acute cases where there is danger to life or situation is critical, this assessment may need to be done in a few minutes! In a case of pneumonia I was treating, Ant-t 200 ‘plussed’ was given every 5 minutes. The first 2 doses did not have any noticeable action, but I knew the remedy was right. The 3rd dose made a dramatic and positive change. Then Bry after a few hours cured the case.
Rgds
Soroush
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If it's to come in the end that Hahnemann didn't say so, then nothing can be the right answer for it.
See the situation of we giving one remedy, say three doses in some time, and later we see a shift to its complementary remedy. We now give this complementary remedy, three doses again. Can't we give the next dose of both remedies together? The answer certainly is yes, even if Hahnemann didn't write it.
And if it's unrelated remedies to which the shift of symptoms is coming, say for the second remedy after the first remedy, then another concept comes in, which Hahnemann didn't write again. Here I'm not saying that we simply can give just those two remedies together, but something more comes in then. Don't ask for it, as first you should be ready to really believe in giving complementary remedies together at least.
Varun
Varun
Please explain the source of your recommendation for prescribing two remedies at the same time.
Hahnemann’s instructions are to give one remedy and evaluate the result before changing to another.
Soroush
For a change what you have written, which to my understanding is different to your earlier text, is correct.
Why is it correct? Because firstly you have not given two remedies together, you have waited for and assessed the action of the first.
The assessment of the actions of the first remedy is essential before a second dose or even another remedy is prescribed.
In acute cases where there is danger to life or situation is critical, this assessment may need to be done in a few minutes! In a case of pneumonia I was treating, Ant-t 200 ‘plussed’ was given every 5 minutes. The first 2 doses did not have any noticeable action, but I knew the remedy was right. The 3rd dose made a dramatic and positive change. Then Bry after a few hours cured the case.
Rgds
Soroush
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If it's to come in the end that Hahnemann didn't say so, then nothing can be the right answer for it.
See the situation of we giving one remedy, say three doses in some time, and later we see a shift to its complementary remedy. We now give this complementary remedy, three doses again. Can't we give the next dose of both remedies together? The answer certainly is yes, even if Hahnemann didn't write it.
And if it's unrelated remedies to which the shift of symptoms is coming, say for the second remedy after the first remedy, then another concept comes in, which Hahnemann didn't write again. Here I'm not saying that we simply can give just those two remedies together, but something more comes in then. Don't ask for it, as first you should be ready to really believe in giving complementary remedies together at least.
Varun
Varun
Please explain the source of your recommendation for prescribing two remedies at the same time.
Hahnemann’s instructions are to give one remedy and evaluate the result before changing to another.
Soroush
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Re: Prescribing two remedies at same time (WAS: China keynotes)
There are certain remedies which are almost always sure to be used together, based on those layers found in everyone "naturally". I know you may say how I can say for it, or how you should believe on it, or please explain on it. Then for that you would need to understand it from my book. I'm sorry to write it, as you again may say bad words for it.
For some who are willing to listen though, the reviews on next editions of my book can help them to have some assessment on my work at least (Second Edition , Fourth Edition ). I'm not making any sales pitch pls, and the lovers of homeopathy can assess on it by themselves.
Also, if we have to use two or more "unrelated" remedies together, then one more remedy Capsicum Annuum is also needed. It's needed in quite lesser potency when just two unrelated remedies are used. Like with 200C potency of two remedies, Capsicum in all probability would be needed in just 6C potency, for complete cure. That's why we don't notice its symptoms, and upto two, three or rarely four remedies somehow work one after the other. More so, the percentage of improvements drop even at three unrelated remedies used one after the other, the same thus to more extent with four remedies.
Therefore, if it gets to more energies/remedies showing up in next symptoms (more than two), the case generally doesn't heal, giving only partial healing or no healing. This is simply because of previous improvements done by medicines used earlier getting lost by that time. It's Capsicum Annuum needed then, in right potency, which binds various unrelated energies. It wasn't written by Hahnemann again. So, you have all the right to not believe in it. Or you can at least think to give a chance to understand it.
Varun
http://hmpathy.com
For some who are willing to listen though, the reviews on next editions of my book can help them to have some assessment on my work at least (Second Edition , Fourth Edition ). I'm not making any sales pitch pls, and the lovers of homeopathy can assess on it by themselves.
Also, if we have to use two or more "unrelated" remedies together, then one more remedy Capsicum Annuum is also needed. It's needed in quite lesser potency when just two unrelated remedies are used. Like with 200C potency of two remedies, Capsicum in all probability would be needed in just 6C potency, for complete cure. That's why we don't notice its symptoms, and upto two, three or rarely four remedies somehow work one after the other. More so, the percentage of improvements drop even at three unrelated remedies used one after the other, the same thus to more extent with four remedies.
Therefore, if it gets to more energies/remedies showing up in next symptoms (more than two), the case generally doesn't heal, giving only partial healing or no healing. This is simply because of previous improvements done by medicines used earlier getting lost by that time. It's Capsicum Annuum needed then, in right potency, which binds various unrelated energies. It wasn't written by Hahnemann again. So, you have all the right to not believe in it. Or you can at least think to give a chance to understand it.
Varun
http://hmpathy.com
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Re: Prescribing two remedies at same time (WAS: China keynotes)
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I was taught that one never doses 2 remedies at the same time. If you must give more than one remedy, then we were told to do it hours apart from one another. You also risk not knowing which one might be the cause of grafting, should that occur. If anyone reading this doesn't know what grafting is, and you are consulting or self-dosing, you need to stop as you haven't been properly trained. If you aren't dosing aqueous, then you aren't following Hahnemann as you cannot adjust the dosing in pill form. Hahnemann said to never give the same dose twice. One must be able to succuss & you can only do that via aqueous dosing. Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it. I've had to walk away from consults who ignore Hahnemann's organon. And I'm not an expert either. I was just well-trained by a DVetHom who really knew her stuff & save my cat who was chronically ill. Acute is one thing, but chronic cases need to follow Hahnemann!
-Lynn L.
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