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Ellen Madono
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cataract surgery???

Post by Ellen Madono »

Hi all,

Most any encounter with the medical system that I have experienced has set my health back. The exception may be the dentist who has always been very conservative.

Nevertheless, I am considering cataract surgery.

Why? because my vision is very bad (9.8 if that means anything to you). I can't see the top sign on the entry level vision test for short sightedness. I have my glasses set to correct my vision quite lightly because I get headaches from over corrections.

But with glasses, I can use the computer and read. I can do most anything that does not require very clear vision.

I am told that the beginnings of cataracts will require surgery in 10 years. I am 68 and in great shape. No drugs. Only glasses.

Can homeopathy be used to prevent the onset of cataracts? I have very few symptoms for doing a chronic case if your answer were yes. Maybe the chronic homeopathic work that I have done on myself will already prevent what the doctor thinks is the predictable development of the existing cataracts. Maybe I should not be worrying because I am already ahead of the game.

It would be lovely to have very good vision for the rest of my life as the doctor predicts. Closer questioning reveals that I have to choose the visual field that will not need glasses. 3 level correction is a whooping 50,000 dollars. 40,000 dollars for 2 levels of correction. The basic surgery is covered by Japan health insurance.

Japan cataract surgery is done completely with computer guidance. It is suppose to be very effective. Yet, I know an old lady who was in pretty good shape (she had high blood pressure and panic attacks as well as Herpes C). Anyway, she was playing ping pong 2 days after her cataract surgery and ended up loosing a lot of her vision in that eye due to inflammation. But, maybe she did not have the current level of computer guided surgery.
It seems advantageous to have surgery done while I am clearly in great shape. The surgery is outpatient so it is not much stress. Yet, eyes are the windows to the world. Just on an energetic level, they should affect the highest Chakras. The pituitary gland is right behind the eyes.
As you can see, I am arguing with myself. I would appreciate any opinions.
Best,
Ellen Madono


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

My cataracts were in a worse shape than yours.... a side-effect of my stupidity BTW.

I tried for 2 years everything I knew and everything I did not know, to no avail...they were too far gone...so I resorted to surgery, done by a human, not a computer.

My only regret is not to have done it earlier. I still remember taking off the eye patch of my right eye after the first surgery, in the ophthalmologist's office; my first reaction was "wow, the colours!!!" I had "forgotten" the colours of the real world; then being able to drive without guessing, which was a realisation that this was what I was doing, my brain correcting the errors according to experience and filling the blanks.

By all means do try natural approaches and you will find good reports in many homeopathic textbooks, but do not miss the joys (and safety) of clear vision.

My experience, at least....

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

I concur!

Soroush
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My cataracts were in a worse shape than yours.... a side-effect of my stupidity BTW.

I tried for 2 years everything I knew and everything I did not know, to no avail...they were too far gone...so I resorted to surgery, done by a human, not a computer.

My only regret is not to have done it earlier. I still remember taking off the eye patch of my right eye after the first surgery, in the ophthalmologist's office; my first reaction was "wow, the colours!!!" I had "forgotten" the colours of the real world; then being able to drive without guessing, which was a realisation that this was what I was doing, my brain correcting the errors according to experience and filling the blanks.

By all means do try natural approaches and you will find good reports in many homeopathic textbooks, but do not miss the joys (and safety) of clear vision.

My experience, at least....

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz


Ellen Madono
Posts: 2012
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:00 pm

Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Ellen Madono »

Wow, not the reply I was expecting. How I would love to see. I was given glasses at 6 years of age and my eyesight kept getting worse I think because one side of my body is weaker than the other. They kept fitting me with stronger glasses to fit the weaker side. That stopped when I realized at about age 25 that constant headaches had to do with the 20/20 vision correction. I reduced the correction and quit going to the eye doctor. My eyes then stabilized. That was my first moment of doubt about modern medicine.

Dr. Roz, I have a feeling that clouding lenses are a little like bone problems. Not easy to fix once they are established. But maybe they don't have to get worse.

I am told that the tendon like threads that hold the bag where the lense floats is the most likely weak place. This is the place where there are failures in surgery (even with computer guidance, I would think).

My tendons are in general too stiff. Instead of tissue salts, I probably should think about a remedy that fits me and my tendencies and also aims at tendons in general. It is interesting that Silicea affects the fibers that move the muscles inside the muscles. So, in cases of Siliciconosis first a sphincter like the one that closes the urinary tube is affected. Ie, it leads to incontinence. This would be different. Nat-phos had a great affect on my lower lumbar spinal injury. Nothing should help that. Of course, the tendons in my back are too tight.

Maybe medicine has something really worthwhile to offer. 40-50 thousand seems like too much. Maybe just decide to wear glasses and enjoy seeing at one focal length.
I also think that if they can make a lens for 40-50 thousand, why don't they offer it for everyone for a reasonable price. The real cost is all the equipment. That is the surgery. Not the lens. Maybe I should wait until someone wakes up or blows a whistle.


Victoria Mashevsky
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Victoria Mashevsky »

Hi Ellen! Sorry to hear about your eye problem. Not sure if you have come across - here in US there is a ophthalmologist Dr Kondrot (https://www.healingtheeye.com/) who is conventionally trained, but is using homeopathy as part of his treatment protocol. Not having any personal experience with him, can only report that 2 out of 3 people I've told about him ended up doing his program and were happy, but they had MD for which there is no simple solution in conventional ophthalmology.



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Rochelle
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Rochelle »

My husband had his done a year ago and for the first time since he was 4 years old he did not need glasses!! He is thrilled. He also got NHS hearing aids at around the same time and we were amazed how sophisticated they were , programmable and everything and you can’t see them when they are being worn!!
Rochelle

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I concur!

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:58 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] cataract surgery???
My cataracts were in a w orse shape than yours.... a side-effect of my stupidity BTW.

I tried for 2 years everything I knew and everything I did not know, to no avail...they were too far gone...so I resorted to surgery, done by a human, not a computer.

My only regret is not to have done it earlier. I still remember taking off the eye patch of my right eye after the first surgery, in the ophthalmologist's office; my first reaction was "wow, the colours!!!" I had "forgotten" the colours of the real world; then being able to drive without guessing, which was a realisation that this was what I was doing, my brain correcting the errors according to experience and filling the blanks.

By all means do try natural approaches and you will find good reports in many homeopathic textbooks, but do not miss the joys (and safety) of clear vision.

My experience, at least....

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
&nb
sp;
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz


Ellen Madono
Posts: 2012
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:00 pm

Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Ellen Madono »

Hi Victoria,
Dr. Kondrot started in Pittsburgh where I started homeopathy back in the Dark Ages. I did not get a feel for him and never met him unfortunately.
Best,
Ellen


Tanya Marquette
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Tanya Marquette »

Ellen

Homeopathy has never helped with my cockeyed eye problems (enjoy the pun). I did find someone almost 20 yrs

ago who was the only person who ever diagnosed my problem. Trained as an optometrist, he excels as a holistic visual therapist.

I worked with him for about 6 mos way back then and did see some significant improvements. Recently I went back to him for visual therapy and has already begun to see general improvement in my eyes/vision. After all these decades of muscular problems it is amazing that any improvement is occuring, but it is and rapidly. Not sure how far I can go with this regimen but it is worth every minute of the exercises and nutritional support he presents.

I will say that this man is the only person I would trust to make up glasses for me as you cannot test my eyes and make a prescription. it would shatter my neurology and turn me into a raving lunatic the effect is so extreme. He really gets the problem and does not push glasses as the only solution. I had this problem from childhood and fortunately I was too ornery to wear the glasses given to me as they hurt. I had 20/10 vision so glasses were clearly not the solution; just an abusive medical experience which began to teach me very early in life to not trust these men in white coats.

t.


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Dale Moss
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Dale Moss »

That you've made it to 68 without needing surgery is pretty good testimony to how well you've done for yourself.

If you have only the beginnings of cataracts now, it would seem those are not the cause of your poor vision. Will cataract removal help that much? I assume the plan is to implant lenses -- that's essential. My mom had some weird clear cataract that developed in her 40's, back when they weren't implanting lenses. For nearly 50 years she had to do contacts, including the nightly boiling the old ones required. No fun. Now she wears heavy aphacic glasses because she can no longer remember how to do contact lenses.

Peace,
Dale
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: cataract surgery???

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

This cost is probably technology....I paid NZ$3000/eye (hence a long delay between 2 eyes) going private.

A group of volunteer ophthalmologists in Africa does the surgery, including the lens for a sponsorship of $20....tell a lot, doesn't it....
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz


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