Vibrionics

[Allen Coniglio]

This is an interesting video and may be worth viewing for homeopaths. I have requested information from these people in India on how to practice this related therapy.

[Tanya Marquette]

Very interesting. Several variations on the theme. Tesla created similar healing.

This type of healing seems to come into being over and over again so it amuses me

when people who do energy healing (homeopathy) are so resistant to the idea
t

[pb000014]

Hi Tanya,
Have you seen the video. 2 major points that differ from homeopathy.
The use of "combinations"
The idea that the remedy brings healing energy, ie the energy it contains is healthy and can do no harm.
Homeopathy uses the single remedy.
Homeopathic remedies make you sick.
Regards,
Paul
Sent from my Samsung device

[Tanya Marquette]

Paul--didn't say it was the same, but a variation. I did see the video.

I do not see homeopathy making you sick, more a diversion of the energy with a
'fake' disease. There is much in the video not explained, such as the mechanism

that is working in the body.

t

[pb000014]

Hi Tanya,
It's a variation firstly in as much as polypharmacy is a variation on homeopathy. For me that's a big variation. They try and justify in the video that hahnemann, had he lived long enough, would have been ok with what they do. That's an abuse of hahnemann, to me.

I don't dispute their remedies may have some "energy" component, as we see with remedies such as electricitas and magnetis. But I do dispute that a lachesis on their device is the same as a lachesis prepared Organon method.

Of course energy can affect the body. The proving of magnetis was from the effects of passing a magnet over a patient.

I just don't see that their remedies are in line with our remedies.

As for our remedies making the patient ill, that's hahnemann. Hence the caution on potency and dose.

The vibrionics remedies are claimed to bring healing energy. This theory is based on vitalist principles where it is incorrectly thought that the vital force heals a patient when they are ill, and that by giving more of this healing energy, we help the vital force. (that's the mechanism of action they give). That is vitalism, which is what hahnemann opposed. In fact he explains that this is the rationale for allopathy.

So I have a problem with the vibrionics as regards being a homeopathic treatment, as well as with the equipment, using a card to prepare a remedy. The device does not seem to have electronics, as there is no battery and it seems to be freestanding. It also seems to rely on the power or blessing of the (decreased) sai baba.

So for me it's a whole different therapy and one which doesn't attract me as a homeopath. The "cures"? I'll leave it there.
Regards,
Paul
Sent from my Samsung device

[Allen Coniglio]

I agree almost 100% with what Paul has said here. Vibrionics is not what any classical homeopath would call homeopathy. It does not really use any homeopathic principles that I can see although it appears to have a basis in homeopathy at first glance. And there is also a great deal of ritualistic superstition involved as well. That being said, I was interested in it because I am interested in everything and I thought there might be a technique or two that I could pick up from them by studying what they do. Of course, I have no idea if their "cures" are long lasting or if they are suppressive. Remember that many Indian homeopaths use allopathic type protocols and (homeopathic remedy) polypharmacy to treat in a "this for that" fashion. Vibrionics seems to share that mindset.As far as their use of combination remedies, that may have some validity because if those remedies were given as such after having been proved as combinations, that would be acceptable under homeopathic principles.

[Tanya Marquette]

Paul

I think there are several things here that you address but not that clearly.

Homeopathy says they give a dose of energy that matches the person's state of being, demonstrated via provings.

Rife used homeopathy as the basis for his mechanical machine--he was duplicating these energy frequencies which

is all the homepathy does; ie, use energy frequencies.
Your post below seems to reject this idea but I see no problem in using Rife based machines to create the energy

dose needed by the patient. Vibrionics tho with its spiritual blessings does not move me altho we do know that our

energy can be imparted to water, plants, animals and even humans. It can be transported and telescoped out into
the universe. I am not interested in vibrionics other than in an intellectual way just because I like to know what is

out there and what people are doing. The video made it feels like mystification was at play and that is something I

abhor.

t

[Allen Coniglio]

Before anyone takes offense, please let me explain and apologize a bit about what I said in my last comment. When I referred to the "ritualistic superstition" of vibrionics I was referring to the blessing of the cards that they use and other such practices and not to any personalities, saints, or other individuals. I did not mean any offense to Sai Baba (whom I know nothing about) or any other person involved. It was after re-reading what I had sent that I realized that someone might interpret my remarks that way.

[Tanya Marquette]

Allen

I wish people would stop responding to me about things i never said. I only noted that the system seemed to use homepathic principles; never said it was homeopathy.

t

[Allen Coniglio]

Sorry Tanya. I did not mean to imply that you said anything. I was just continuing on with a couple of thoughts that came up. I wasn't even thinking of anything that you said or didn't say. In fact, without scrolling through this e-mail, I could not say for certain what you said. I do understand your point, however, and apologize if I gave the wrong impression.