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Rochelle
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MDS

Post by Rochelle »

Myelodysplastic Syndrome
Has anyone treated this ? My patient who has done very well for years on Nat Mur has got to the stage when she needs more frequent blood transfusions because of fatigue and I wondered if anyone has treated this condition and the results?
Thanks

Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSC RSHom MNWCH AAMET

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Dale Moss
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Re: MDS

Post by Dale Moss »

I haven't treated it, but it might be helpful to consider what is going on in terms of disease process. As I understand it, myelodysplasia causes the bone marrow to produce immature and deformed blood cells.
Here's some info from RefW on a remedy that does cover the condition:
Paclitaxel [Paclit.]
Uses: Carcinoma.
CNS
Peripheral neuropathy; grand mal seizures; encephalopathy; motor neuropathy with resultant minor distal weakness; autonomic neuropathy.
CVS
Hypotension; bradycardia; ventricular tachycardia; tachycardia with bigeminy; AV block; myocardial infarction; orthostatic hypotension.
Eye/Vision
Visual disturbances; scintillating scotoma.
General
Angioedema.
G.I
Paralytic ileus; nausea; vomiting; diarrhoea; mucositis; colitis; pseudomembranous colitis
Immune
Bone marrow suppression; increase susceptibility to infections.
Haematology
Neutropenia; thrombocytopenia; anaemia; myeloid leukaemia; myelodysplastic syndrome.
Liver
Hepatic necrosis and hepatic encephalopathy.
Metabolism
< in AST (SGOT); < alkaline phosphatase or bilirubin.
Musculoskeletal
Arthralgia; myalgia.
Respiratory
Respiratory distress and tightness.
Skin
Flushing; rash; urticaria; alopecia; Stevens-Johnson syndrome; epidermal necrolysis; erythema multiforme; exfoliative dermatitis.
Peace,
Dale


rochellemarsden
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Re: MDS

Post by rochellemarsden »

Thanks Dale .
Interesting. I have never heard of this remedy. She does get bouts of diarrhoea which won't go away and Nat mur high always sorts it. I will look it up.

Rochelle
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Allen Coniglio
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Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:00 pm

Re: MDS

Post by Allen Coniglio »

It is my opinion that if a person has been on a remedy for years and has not cured but is now getting worse and requiring more frequent transfusions, the remedy may need to be changed. It may be that the Nat Mur either was working for a while but now has more or less stopped having the desired action on the person, or that potency needs to be changed, or that you might want to go to a plussing method with the remedy, or that the remedy has only been palliating all these years and that you need to study the case further to find the right remedy. You also may need a nosode as an intercurrent so as to break the back of the disease process and allow the Nat Mur remedy to work more completely. Carcinosin is often associated with Nat Mur type cases so you might want to look there especially because the patient is producing damaged blood cells. Look for something cancerous, tubercular, or syphilitic, or whatever else would produce deformed cells. MD is considered a cancerous disease and may be caused and/or aggravated by treatment with x-rays or chemotherapy. http://www.cancer.gov/types/myeloprolif ... atment-pdq Thus, Carcinosin is even more indicated. Leukemia and MDS are related syndromes which again brings to mind Carcinosin. https://www.cancertutor.com/leukemia/
There is much on You Tube about MDS. Here is one woman's story. All others that I have seen do not appear to be doing that well but she is the picture of health after trying a product called Osteo-K which probably has vitamins, minerals, and vitamin K to aid in the clotting that the patient cannot do on their own.
There are times when homeopathy is not enough for the people that we see. When we encounter such a situation we have to be unselfish enough and aware enough to consider something outside of the homeopathic sphere. I had a client with macular degeneration and although we tried a number of seemingly indicated remedies, we could not seem to affect his MD by much although I do believe we slowed or stopped its progression. In any case, after a certain amount of time, I decided to look elsewhere for help for him and I went to You Tube to look for answers. I found many videos on the subject and found one about a man named Joel Wallach who claims to have cured multiple cases of MD with his dietary formulas. This was exactly in accord with my thinking and my pursuits for this man as I had been telling him for months that I believed that he was severely malnourished. Even though he changed his diet and began to eat better, however, he still could not put on weight. Thus, when Dr. Wallach said that he had special dietary products to sell, the man decided to order some. He is expecting it to be delivered a few days from now and when he begins that protocol we will see what results. To not have told him about what I found would have been the greatest of crimes. He can still use homeopathy but it may be something else altogether that will cure him or something that will work with homeopathy to effect the cure.
Other things that may be considered are the Rife machine or frequency generators, Rick Simpson's cannabis oil protocol as found on You Tube, dietary changes which eliminate all toxic and/or unnatural things, sugars, chemicals, white breads and flours, chemicals, toxins, heavy metals, tooth amalgam removal, etc..


Rochelle
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Re: MDS

Post by Rochelle »

Thanks for this- very useful information. She used to me a herbalist so knows a lot about nutrition and what to take. She does take supplements but am not sure what. I actually decided to give her herbal milk thistle to detox her liver because she told me that about 4 weeks ago she had terrible pain on her right scapula and even went to see the cancer nurse who only gave her co-codemol which she hated taking. She woke up one morning and it was gone. She didn’t phone me because thought I was away and didn’t want to trouble me!! Well to you and me right scapula = liver and Chelidonium and that is what she would have got!! I thought I detected a yellow tinge on her skin hense the mil thistle. Am looking at it as a detox.

I have ordered 50M Nat Mur today and will certainly consider Carc. I will also look at the videos when I return from Louis Klein ‘s seminar in Greece as I am going there tomorrow.
Rochelle

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It is my opinion that if a person has been on a remedy for years and has not cured but is now getting worse and requiring more frequent transfusions, the remedy may need to be changed. It may be that the Nat Mur either was working for a while but now has more or less stopped having the desired action on the person, or that potency needs to be changed, or that you might want to go to a plussing method with the remedy, or that the remedy has only been palliating all these years and that you need to study the case further to find the right remedy. You also may need a nosode as an intercurrent so as to break the back of the disease process and allow the Nat Mur remedy to work more completely. Carcinosin is often associated with Nat Mur type cases so you might want to look there especially because the patient is producing damaged blood cells. Look for something cancerous, tubercular, or syphilitic, or whatever else would produce deformed cells. MD is considered a cancerous disease and may be caused and/or aggravated by treatment with x-rays or chemotherapy. http://www.cancer.gov/types/myeloprolif ... atment-pdq Thus, Carcinosin is even more indicated. Leukemia and MDS are related syndromes which again brings to mind Carcinosin. https://www.cancertutor.com/leukemia/

There is much on You Tube about MDS. Here is one woman's story. All others that I have seen do not appear to be doing that well but she is the picture of health after trying a product called Osteo-K which probably has vitamins, minerals, and vitamin K to aid in the clotting that the patient cannot do on their own.

There are times when homeopathy is not enough for the people that we see. When we encounter such a situation we have to be unselfish enough and aware enough to consider something outside of the homeopathic sphere. I had a client with macular degeneration and although we tried a number of seemingly indicated remedies, we could not seem to affect his MD by much although I do believe we slowed or stopped its progression. In any case, after a certain amount of time, I decided to look elsewhere for help for him and I went to You Tube to look for answers. I found many videos on the subject and found one about a man named Joel Wallach who claims to have cured multiple cases of MD with his dietary formulas. This was exactly in accord with my thinking and my pursuits for this man as I had been telling him for months that I believed that he was severely malnourished. Even though he changed his diet and began to eat better, however, he still could not put on weight. Thus, when Dr. Wallach said that he had special dietary products to sell, the man decided to order some. He is expecting it to be delivered a few days from now and when he begins that protocol we will see what results. To not have told him about what I found would have been the greatest of crimes. He can still use homeopathy but it may be something else altogether that will cure him or something that will work with homeopathy to effect the cure.

Other things that may be considered are the Rife machine or frequency generators, Rick Simpson's cannabis oil protocol as found on You Tube, dietary changes which eliminate all toxic and/or unnatural things, sugars, chemicals, white breads and flours, chemicals, toxins, heavy metals, tooth amalgam removal, etc..
Myelodysplastic Syndrome
Has anyone treated this ? My patient who has done very well for years on Nat Mur has got to the stage when she needs more frequent blood transfusions because of fatigue and I wondered if anyone has treated this condition and the results?
Thanks

Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSC RSHom MNWCH AAMET

Southport Homeopathic Practice

Registered Homeopath and EFT (Cert Advanced) Practitioner, Matrix Reimprinting Practitioner

www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/621281734568831/

I am on a register accredited by the Professional Standards Authority (PSA)


Maria Bohle
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Re: MDS

Post by Maria Bohle »

Another thought might be Aqua marina. Nat mur must be in charge, aqua marina prefers someone else be in charge, there are subtle differences but on one of my cases where long term nat mur didn't cure the Aqua marina did. They look a lot alike,

warmly, Maria


Rochelle
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Re: MDS

Post by Rochelle »

Thanks for that Maria. Another to study!!
Rocgelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 17 June 2016 21:19
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] MDS
Another thought might be Aqua marina. Nat mur must be in charge, aqua marina prefers someone else be in charge, there are subtle differences but on one of my cases where long term nat mur didn't cure the Aqua marina did. They look a lot alike,
warmly, Maria
Thanks for this- very useful information. She used to me a herbalist so knows a lot about nutrition and what to take. She does take supplements but am not sure what. I actually decided to give her herbal milk thistle to detox her liver because she told me that about 4 weeks ago she had terrible pain on her right scapula and even went to see the cancer nurse who only gave her co-codemol which she hated taking. She woke up one morning and it was gone. She didn’t phone me because thought I was away and didn’t want to trouble me!! Well to you and me right scapula = liver and Chelidonium and that is what she would have got!! I thought I detected a yellow tinge on her skin hense the mil thistle. Am looking at it as a detox.

I have ordered 50M Nat Mur today and will certainly consider Carc. I will also look at the videos when I return from Louis Klein ‘s seminar in Greece as I am going there tomorrow.
Rochelle

From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com ]
Sent: 17 June 2016 20:36
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] MDS
It is my opinion that if a person has been on a remedy for years and has not cured but is now getting worse and requiring more frequent transfusions, the remedy may need to be changed. It may be that the Nat Mur either was working for a while but now has more or less stopped having the desired action on the person, or that potency needs to be changed, or that you might want to go to a plussing method with the remedy, or that the remedy has only been palliating all these years and that you need to study the case further to find the right remedy. You also may need a nosode as an intercurrent so as to break the back of the disease process and allow the Nat Mur remedy to work more completely. Carcinosin is often associated with Nat Mur type cases so you might want to look there especially because the patient is producing damaged blood cells. Look for something cancerous, tubercular, or syphilitic, or whatever else would produce deformed cells. MD is considered a cancerous disease and may be caused and/or aggravated by treatment with x-rays or chemotherapy. http://www.cancer.gov/types/myeloprolif ... atment-pdq Thus, Carcinosin is even more indicated. Leukemia and MDS are related syndromes which again brings to mind Carcinosin. https://www.cancertutor.com/leukemia/

There is much on You Tube about MDS. Here is one woman's story. All others that I have seen do not appear to be doing that well but she is the picture of health after trying a product called Osteo-K which probably has vitamins, minerals, and vitamin K to aid in the clotting that the patient cannot do on their own.

There are times when homeopathy is not enough for the people that we see. When we encounter such a situation we have to be unselfish enough and aware enough to consider something outside of the homeopathic sphere. I had a client with macular degeneration and although we tried a number of seemingly indicated remedies, we could not seem to affect his MD by much although I do believe we slowed or stopped its progression. In any case, after a certain amount of time, I decided to look elsewhere for help for him and I went to You Tube to look for answers. I found many videos on the subject and found one about a man named Joel Wallach who claims to have cured multiple cases of MD with his dietary formulas. This was exactly in accord with my thinking and my pursuits for this man as I had been telling him for months that I believed that he was severely malnourished. Even though he changed his diet and began to eat better, however, he still could not put on weight. Thus, when Dr. Wallach said that he had special dietary products to sell, the man decided to order some. He is expecting it to be delivered a few days from now and when he begins that protocol we will see what results. To not have told him about what I found would have been the greatest of crimes. He can still use homeopathy but it may be something else altogether that will cure him or something that will work with homeopathy to effect the cure.

Other things that may be considered are the Rife machine or frequency generators, Rick Simpson's cannabis oil protocol as found on You Tube, dietary changes which eliminate all toxic and/or unnatural things, sugars, chemicals, white breads and flours, chemicals, toxins, heavy metals, tooth amalgam removal, etc..
Myelodysplastic Syndrome
Has anyone treated this ? My patient who has done very well for years on Nat Mur has got to the stage when she needs more frequent blood transfusions because of fatigue and I wondered if anyone has treated this condition and the results?
Thanks

Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSC RSHom MNWCH AAMET

Southport Homeopathic Practice

Registered Homeopath and EFT (Cert Advanced) Practitioner, Matrix Reimprinting Practitioner

www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/621281734568831/

I am on a register accredited by the Professional Standards Authority (PSA)


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: MDS

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

And then there are 3 Gemmos: Abies Pectinata, Cornus Sanguinea, Tamaris Gallica.....
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

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Rochelle Marsden
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Re: MDS

Post by Rochelle Marsden »

Hi Dale,

Paclitaxel is not in my Isis programme . Any idea what it actually is? I wonder which pharmacies have it. I will check if she has any otjher of the symptoms described in this remedy.
Thanks
Rochelle


Sherill
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Re: MDS

Post by Sherill »

From Wikipedia:

Paclitaxel is a drug used to treat ovarian, breast, lung, pancreatic and other cancers.[2] It and docetaxel represent the taxane family of drugs.


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