bromide vs bromium

[Sharon Hamel]

Hi All,

I am trying to order Bromide as suggested by Irene awhile back for my cat with hyperthyroid, I believe as a detox. Freemans in Scotland asked me if I meant Bromium? Are they the same thing with different endings to the word?
I struggled with this lesson in my course at BIH years ago…the different endings and spellings of some remedies.
Blessings,

Sharon Hamel, D.Vet.Hom.

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Bromium seems to be the chemical name and its homeopathic name, whereas bromide could be a salt or a common commercial name.

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Sharon Hamel]

Thank you, Dr. Roz.
Blessings,

Sharon Hamel, D.Vet.Hom.
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Bromium seems to be the chemical name and its homeopathic name, whereas bromide could be a salt or a common commercial name.

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz

[pb000014]

-ides are salts. Chloride, bromide, iodide.
Sodium chloride, potassium iodide, calcium fluoride.
Bromium is bromine, the element. As in chlorine, iodine, fluorine.
Regards,
Paul
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[Sharon Hamel]

Thank you Paul. So to make sure I’m understanding you and Dr. Roz, if I order Bromium, I am getting bromide which is the element bromine in a ‘salt’? Sorry, I’ve never taken a chemistry class .
Blessings,

Sharon Hamel, D.Vet.Hom.

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-ides are salts. Chloride, bromide, iodide.

Sodium chloride, potassium iodide, calcium fluoride.

Bromium is bromine, the element. As in chlorine, iodine, fluorine.

Regards,

Paul
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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

I had a quick look in the materia medicas: most of them write about Bromium, the pure element, but Hugues writes in his Cyclopaedia that provings were also done with salts, even though there are different MMs for salts like Kalium Bromatum.

A search in Reference Works show 186 salts of Bromium.....therefore I would say that if your want to prescribe Bromium, it is the Br element you should get and not any salt, unless you want to spend time comparing all of them.....

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[pb000014]

No, Bromium is not a salt. It's bromine. Pure bromine Br2.
Bromatum's are the salts and will specify the cation like kali bromatum. Salts are a combination of a cation eg. Kali and anion eg bromatum or bromide. Bromium is just bromine on it's own.
Salts occur when bromine reacts with something else to form a combination.
Regards,
Paul
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Thank you Paul. So to make sure I’m understanding you and Dr. Roz, if I order Bromium, I am getting bromide which is the element bromine in a ‘salt’? Sorry, I’ve never taken a chemistry class .
Blessings,

Sharon Hamel, D.Vet.Hom.

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Subject: Re: [Minutus] bromide vs bromium
-ides are salts. Chloride, bromide, iodide.

Sodium chloride, potassium iodide, calcium fluoride.

Bromium is bromine, the element. As in chlorine, iodine, fluorine.

Regards,

Paul
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[Sharon Hamel]

Dr. Roz and Paul, thank you for your time and explanation. I’ve decided to order the bromium in hopes it’s the remedy I am seeking.
Blessings,

Sharon Hamel, D.Vet.Hom.
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No, Bromium is not a salt. It's bromine. Pure bromine Br2.

Bromatum's are the salts and will specify the cation like kali bromatum. Salts are a combination of a cation eg. Kali and anion eg bromatum or bromide. Bromium is just bromine on it's own.

Salts occur when bromine reacts with something else to form a combination.

Regards,

Paul
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Thank you Paul. So to make sure I’m understanding you and Dr. Roz, if I order Bromium, I am getting bromide which is the element bromine in a ‘salt’? Sorry, I’ve never taken a chemistry class .
Blessings,

Sharon Hamel, D.Vet.Hom.

From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:16 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] bromide vs bromium
-ides are salts. Chloride, bromide, iodide.

Sodium chloride, potassium iodide, calcium fluoride.

Bromium is bromine, the element. As in chlorine, iodine, fluorine.

Regards,

Paul
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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Sharon,

Here’s another thought. (A few, actually.)

(1) One would be to read through materia medica of Bromine and see if it seems to suit.

But I’m thinking, maybe it’s more likely that, had Irene meant Bromine instead of bromide, that’s what she would have said.

And it occurs to me that “bromide” was (it seems to me) used to mean something particular “in the old days”, so I googled and found this:
"After bromine was discovered in 1827, chemists could not resist experimenting with the new element. It didn't take long before they found uses for its compounds, in particular potassium bromide. Potassium bromide was used as a sedative to treat everything from epilepsy to sleeplessness…”

Which

(2) made me wonder whether she might have meant *potassium* bromide?

Because other than that, we we are back to researching a whole lot of salts, or else hoping that what she said is not what she meant…

Let us now how it goes!
Shannon