Outline of the Organon

[Shannon Nelson]

Yes, I give the same reasons and you have the same lack of response to them. Yes LMs are better for SOME cases. This I have never argued against. For my cows they would have been a really dumb idea, and for my kids they would have been wildly unnecessary and at some points unachievable.

Promoting that people learn to use LMs, that makes sense to me. But demonizing people who don't use them exclusively, to me that seems both strange and unfortunate.
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[Sheri Nakken]

It is NOT just LMs but Cs too in water. How is it that I have no problem in my life ONLY use water potencies for patients and self - I never have to go back to 4th edition dry. How is it that I can do that? Hahnemann moved beyond dry for a reason - do you remember what that was?
Sheri

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[Sheri Nakken]

I know. There are laws and principles and few seem to know that.
Sheri

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[Shannon Nelson]

One more trying, part of the beauty and power of homeopathy, and also of having familiarity with ALL of Hahnemanns work, and others, is that it is so very adaptable to so many circumstances. We should be advocating MORE familiarity with various approaches that work, not less!

Respecting the needs and limits of different patients and situations.

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[Sheri Nakken]

and why did he leave 4th edition dry behind. You don't want to look at that. That doesn't change because someone doesn't want to do it
Sheri

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[Shannon Nelson]

Okay, thanks for that clarification. I didn’t realize it was only dry dosing that you object to. (Though even there, *sometimes* dry dosing is best; if the patient is “not over-sensitive” and needs a strong dose.

Yes I remember the reason — or at least *a* reason — that one can’t adjust the dose as finely, and sometimes there is overdose / overreaction. Okay… Having learned about water dosing (decades back), there are times when I will use 4th edition method (single dose, watch and wait) BUT give the dose in water. Because “someone told me” decades back, that given in water, the dose acts both more gently and more deeply. So when I was concerned about being particularly “gentle”, that would be my method.

But for most circumstances (most; not all) I do in fact use dry, because it does in fact work fine, and it’s easy. My field of “practice”, as you know, has been very limited. If I were working with a patient base like Hahnemann’s (over-sensitive, enervated, largely upper-crust, etc.), I’m quite certain that my usual choices of posology would be different.

One special feature of homeopathy is *individualization* — suiting the treatment to the patient (and also to the practitioner, and to the circumstances).

[Shannon Nelson]

Somewhere I did answer that: Because one can’t adjust the dose as finely, and sometimes there is over-reaction (proving). And because Hahnemann said that one should never give the same dose unaltered in potency.

All of these do seem to be non-issues for most of the people I’ve worked with thus far; but again, if my patient base had been different, no doubt my conclusions and “default” methods would also be different. Flexibility…

And again, with my head-injured friend, I had tried repeatedly to get her to water-dose, and that’s how she came to the point of simply refusing — because she had been trying.

Dry dosing she was able to do fine.

[Sheri Nakken]

yes but you have to follow the laws and principles.
What is 'works' to you? Suppression looks a lot like 'works' in many cases too.

I really encourage you and all, once again, to learn David Little's and Luc de Scheppers interpretation of Hahnemanns 5th and 6th edition water dosing due to problems he found with dry dosing and giving the same potency over and over.

Its strange to see how you view Hahnemann's patients and how that might be dfiferent to now.

Until you have given time to using water potencies in the RIGHT way, not just giving them in water. But dosing and interpretating the reaction within a few days and then knowing when to repeat and when not to, then you don't really know water potencies dosing as in 5th and 6th edition of Organon. It is NOT just because you can adjust -although you can. And it is NOT because given in water. It is so much more than that

I know your practice of homeopathy has been quite limited and that is why it surprises me that you are so opinionated on dry dosing being OK and so vocal. You are doing a great disservice to homeopathy.

Please read:
http://www.drluc.com/lecture-two.asp
http://www.drluc.com/lecture-three.asp
http://www.drluc.com/lecture-four.asp

and more here http://www.drluc.com/general-articles.asp and here http://www.drluc.com/prof-articles.asp

this book first http://www.drluc.com/book14.htm and this one next http://www.drluc.com/book15.htm

For those who want to go beyond 4th edition dry potency -
The succussions, altering each dose to become more potent is another issue neglected worldwide by homeopaths! They claim that they can give unpunished a dry dose of a certain potency unchanged once a month for a year, and worse, some repeat such dose daily and unchanged! What is the result? Hahnemann tells us (in Chronic Diseases) that by doing so, the patient will add symptoms belonging to the remedy but not to his disease picture.in other words, he will add symptoms to his disease he never had! The danger is even that great that through such mechanical repetition, the original disease of the patient will be totally replaced by a new disease, entirely consisting of the remedy symptoms, symptoms you never had! You could compare this to the side effects of allopathic medicine which create in the long run more symptoms and new diseases often worse than the original disease! So don't think homeopathy cannot harm: if your homeopath continues to give unchanged doses you will have all the "side effects" of our remedy (we call it accessory symptoms). It is even worse if you receive the wrong remedy and your homeopath repeats such dry doses unchanged and too frequent. Patients who are suffering from such medicinal or remedy diseases are much more difficult to treat further!

Sheri

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[Shannon Nelson]

Okay… We’ve covered all of this ground before.

I know about suppression; I know how to use LMs, I have read both David (extensively) and Luc. If you would like to correct my view of Hahnemann’s patient body, go for it, though I don’t think it matters.

I know how to dose via 5th and 6th ed. IIf you read what I WROTE, I SAID that what I was describing was 4th ed method but using water doses; please reply to what I WROTE, not to your own imagination.

And I have case after case for which I simply don’t think you could have done any better with LMs. I’ve written them; you’ve never made any meaningful counter.

But you don’t care about that, and I no longer care that you don’t care, so whatever. Got to get on with my day. Have fun.

[Sheri Nakken]

Shannon, explain to me how you would get a water potency according to Hahnemann, Dr. Luc or David Little.

I have no idea what 4th edition is but using water doses................

You said yourself that you have very limited use but yet you act like you know it all with regard to 5th and 6th edition dosing.

How would you dose according to 5th and 6th edition?
Sheri

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