receding bones around the teeth

[Ellen Madono]

I have an elderly teeth whose teeth are going to fall out. Sil successfully has stopped inflammation of the gums using F potencies (30c also worked, but it fit his general profile so I decided to try going through the F potencies). The dentist carefully explained that the bones around the teeth are receding. Can anything be done about the state of the bones? Is this the same as osteoporosis?

I am thinking of using Hekla Lava. Maybe 6c in alternation with the Sil. Or in place of silica. Hekla Lava has tumors of the bones. This case is not so syphilitic.

He also has clogging of the large vessel from the heart and one of the nerves to the bundle of hiss is not working. So, he has heart and blood problems. But, so far, they do not attract medical attention. So, I am ignoring them, altough they are sure to cause problems later.

Ellen Madono

[Dale Moss]

Colin Lessell's textbook on dental homeopathy has several pages of suggestions for treating chronic periodontitis and gingivitis, which are interlinked. Apart from homeopathic suggestions, he recommends a diet low in sugars but high in fiber and fruit, with adequate calcium and magnesium. He further recommends such supplements as CoEnzyme Q10 (also useful for your patient's heart issues), vits. A, E, & C, selenium, folic acid, bioflavonoids, and zinc (plus calcium and magnesium, if needed). He notes that zinc deficiency is extremely common, but may give no overt signs.

If you were treating the bone loss as a manifestation of osteoporosis, you could use tissue salts of Calc-phos. and Silica. But I think it's more complicated than that. Lessell's book is a useful one to have.

Peace,
Dale
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[Rochelle]

What about Calc Fl cell salts in conjunction with everything else you are doing?
Rochelle
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Subject: [Minutus] receding bones around the teeth
I have an elderly teeth whose teeth are going to fall out. Sil successfully has stopped inflammation of the gums using F potencies (30c also worked, but it fit his general profile so I decided to try going through the F potencies). The dentist carefully explained that the bones around the teeth are receding. Can anything be done about the state of the bones? Is this the same as osteoporosis?
I am thinking of using Hekla Lava. Maybe 6c in alternation with the Sil. Or in place of silica. Hekla Lava has tumors of the bones. This case is not so syphilitic.
He also has clogging of the large vessel from the heart and one of the nerves to the bundle of hiss is not working. So, he has heart and blood problems. But, so far, they do not attract medical attention. So, I am ignoring them, altough they are sure to cause problems later.
Ellen Madono

[Lynn Cremona]

from Kent
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from Synthesis
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[MOUTH - DETACHED from teeth; gums] - and bleed easily: ant-c. CARB-V. Phos. sulph.
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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

You have to increase the regeneration and density of the bones, no matter where they are....so Organotherapy Bone, bone soup for the minerals in correct proportions, vitamin C for collagen, D3 and K2 for mineralisation, cell salts but include Symphytum in the mix and local treatment if needed, like oil pulling with coconut oil, seems effective from what I read, no personal experience.

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

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[Shannon Nelson]

I have a (to me) wonderful non-homeopathy experience regarding receding gums. Mine had been gradually going over a number of years (5? 8?), had gotten to point of the regular "deep cleanings" at the dentist's (expensive!); there were also some erosions, and small bits of roots beginning to show. This despite a decades-long rigorous schedule of brushing and flossing. Dentist's recommendations stopped the gums from getting worse, but a year or two on, they were not growing back.

Then someone had me start brushing with an MMS solution (acidified sodium chlorite -- never mind remarking "that's just bleach!" and etc.; I know). I did a pretty religious once-daily brushing with that, for about four months. During that time pain stopped; sensitivity stopped -- and the kicker, a few weeks after I had stopped, I realized that during those four months the gums had (actually / finally) grown *back* almost entirely; also erosions re-mineralized, and I tell you I am just delighted. Probably should start it again for a while...

I also used the method of bathing with it (a small amount into hot tub water and soak; anyone who wants details please send me a private note) and saw really fabulous results with a slowly worsening and nasty infection from a spider bite; my sister had even more tremendous results on an infected animal bite.

Okay, it was the mention of re-growing gums that got me going. Probably I should do all of Joe's suggestions for the *rest* of my bones, but oh my, my gums are happy now!

Shannon

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From: "'Dr. J Rozencwajg, NMD' jroz@ihug.co.nz [minutus]"
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] receding bones around the teeth
You have to increase the regeneration and density of the bones, no matter where they are....so Organotherapy Bone, bone soup for the minerals in correct proportions, vitamin C for collagen, D3 and K2 for mineralisation, cell salts but include Symphytum in the mix and local treatment if needed, like oil pulling with coconut oil, seems effective from what I read, no personal experience.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Carol Orr]

Irene recommended dandelion as the best green for bone health for the teeth.

[gpmccool]

Hi Shannon,

Thank you for sharing the really interesting MMS results you had! Bet you are delighted about that! Was there a particular brand recommended and a protocol suggested? My daughter has worked with homeopathic remedies along with coconut oil pulling for this problem with quite limited results. She has atrial septal aneurysm (aortic insuffiency) and it has me very worried about her. I am passing your post on to her, hoping she will give MMS a try. She's a young mother, teacher of special needs children, extremely overworked and has a way of disregarding anything her mother suggests, so hoping your experience may be able to influence her to try MMS.
Her dentist who does the deep scaling you mention told her that she has an auto immune condition but it has not been confirmed by any testing.
Thank you!

Georgianna

[gpmccool]

Dr. Roz,
Thank you for your suggestions re oral bone health. Have passed that on to my daughter as well as Shannon's experience. Have suggested the coconut oil pulling, which she has been doing even if her mother suggested it (does not appreciate advice from her mother) and have tried to get her to take vit C, D3 and K2 and cell salts but not aware of Symphytum, so will send your info to her, too. Gave her calendula toothpaste but not sure that's much help!
She is more likely to believe the good advice given here than anything her mother says!
However, she is a died in the wool (no pun intended) vegan and will not use any animal products of any kind so the bone soup and/or organotherapy are out. Her Chinese QiGong Master advised she eat chicken feet, which of course didn't happen!
Thanks for the info to send to my daughter,

Georgianna

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

It is her choice..........

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz